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To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?

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OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 11:36

I'm currently in Italy (staying in Rome) for three nights. It's my first foreign break in a warm country and I've been so excited and saved up especially.

We booked an excursion for today consisting of a trip to Sorrento where we'd spend time exploring, visiting shops and enjoying local food - and then on to Pompeii on the route back.

We've spent the whole morning/day so far stuck in traffic on the motor way. We are so behind schedule we can now no longer go to Sorrento first because Pompeii closes at 5.30 and there won't be time. A sit down restaurant meal will now be replaced by a takeaway which will be eaten on the coach.

We've just been told the cause of the traffic jam and it's because somebody has died in a collision on the motorway.

Instead of feeling saddened about the loss of life I just feel inconvenienced and pissed off that the highlight of my trip has been ruined.

Does this make me a shitty person? It just occurred that it might 😳

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Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 18:54

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I'm not looking for sympathy, just giving perspective from the flip side.
You know where you can shove your Oscar.

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:57

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I really can’t stand it when people try to guilt trip others. We all know people who have been through stuff and some of us have gone through it ourselves. I have and I’d never guilt trip someone else for thinking of themselves because it’s normal. The fact is, OP doesn’t know these people, she didn’t know the circumstances, if the person had family, children etc and when that’s the case, there is less sympathy because it’s is just an anonymous person. We wouldn’t cope if we started imagining who these people are, the fact they might have children and being upset at every tragic story we heard. We look after our own and others do the same.

popcornpower2025 · 11/08/2025 18:58

Things can be more than one thing at a same time.

I live near an A road that accidents happen on all the time. The only way that can really happen is for at least one car in the accident to be driving dangerously and I'm fucking sick of it tbh. Things can be sad and tragic and also ruin your day due to the disruption

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:01

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:57

I really can’t stand it when people try to guilt trip others. We all know people who have been through stuff and some of us have gone through it ourselves. I have and I’d never guilt trip someone else for thinking of themselves because it’s normal. The fact is, OP doesn’t know these people, she didn’t know the circumstances, if the person had family, children etc and when that’s the case, there is less sympathy because it’s is just an anonymous person. We wouldn’t cope if we started imagining who these people are, the fact they might have children and being upset at every tragic story we heard. We look after our own and others do the same.

It's not guilt tripping.
It's more a case of trying to wipe the smug smiles off the faces of the clever arseholes commenting on here.
To put it in raw context, if you like.
I'm not competing with anyone.
Just explaining how some people on here are seriously pissing me off.
And even after giving context someone felt they had to make a snarky comment.
Mumsnet really is full of twats.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:03

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Also, do you feel better for that?

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 11/08/2025 19:04

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:16

There is a term that exists - I hope someone can remember what it is - that demonstrates that those who make a big performance out of ‘caring’ are usually the ones that you need to watch out for

Yes I have a family member like this, they make out to the whole world they're kind and caring , maybe they are to some people, but in my opinion to the wrong people, they're absolutely vile to family, she's actually a nasty abusive bitch.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/08/2025 19:05

ClosetBasketCase · 11/08/2025 16:45

Not unreasonble. I feel like it every damn week on the motorway i'm on. If its not some prat (usually the same one) trying to throw themselves off the motorway bridge, or walking down the motorway - on one occasion saying they'll off themselves if their girlfriend doesn't get back together with them, then its the wretched highway maintenence playing silly buggers with incident management and keeping the road shut for hours when there isnt even a fatality - and when there is? god knows they keep it shut for far longer than neccessary.

I'm totally with you. especially on a trip like that!

(No, this is not a reverse answer, no it it not satire etc - and also for referance - I have both been and had family in the bridge situation - and its actually made me even less empathetic than i was before. Now it just messes up my day and pisses me off. even more so as they usually walk past the bloody hospital to get to that thrice forsaken bridge!)

Some pratt whose life has fallen apart and whose mind must be an absolute turmoil. I prAy you’re never there!

Clementina49er · 11/08/2025 19:08

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:20

It wasn't a suicide! It was a car crash.

Here you go: a 55 year old woman who was a pillion passenger on a motorcycle driven by her husband died when she was flung off it in a collision with a car: the husband is in intensive care. If you can bear to look there is a photo of the bike!

https://www.nanotv.it/2025/08/11/torre-annunziata-scavi-grave-incidente-alluscita-dellautostrada-morta-una-donna/

Does that make you feel a bit less cheesed off?

Torre Annunziata Scavi, grave incidente all’uscita dell’autostrada: morta una donna

Torre Annunziata. Grave incidente lungo l’autostrada Napoli-Salerno in direzione sud, all’altezza dell’uscita Torre Annunziata Scavi...

https://www.nanotv.it/2025/08/11/torre-annunziata-scavi-grave-incidente-alluscita-dellautostrada-morta-una-donna/

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 11/08/2025 19:08

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:44

There is no difference. There will be plenty of people who have lost a loved one in an RTA (I have myself, actually) who aren’t virtue signalling.
Its the handwringing and gross display of the moral high ground that’s the virtue signalling bit - over something that literally doesn’t even affect you.

Telling the OP she is a terrible person for being disappointed that her day trip was essentially ruined. Of course she was disappointed, some of you are behaving as though that makes her evil when it’s a perfectly normal thing to feel.

Perfectly normal to feel disappointed yes. To feel nothing but disappointment in this situation is actually pretty horrible. In her position I would be disappointed, but I would mainly be sad for the people affected by the accident and very aware of how lucky I was that it wasn’t me. That’s not virtue signaling, it’s the truth. It’s called empathy, something the OP appears to lack.

Also, if the trip was that important to her she should have planned better. It was a ridiculous amount to try to fit into one day with all that travel. Any number of things could have gone wrong to ruin it.

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 19:09

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:01

It's not guilt tripping.
It's more a case of trying to wipe the smug smiles off the faces of the clever arseholes commenting on here.
To put it in raw context, if you like.
I'm not competing with anyone.
Just explaining how some people on here are seriously pissing me off.
And even after giving context someone felt they had to make a snarky comment.
Mumsnet really is full of twats.

It is guilt tripping and it’s attention seeking behaviour. You are trying to make them feel bad. Why do you need other people to feel bad? Any care wouldn’t be real or have any depth anyway, their life won’t stop in the way that I’m sure yours did when you lost your BIL and mine did when I lost my uncle. Despite losing my uncle in an RTA, I still feel pissed when I get delayed due to an accident. We can’t be upset for everyone, we’d never cope with life.

XenoBitch · 11/08/2025 19:10

I can understand why you wold be annoyed, but you can rebook and go another time. It is going to have no lasting implications for you, and I bet you will have forgotten about it in a few years anyway.
Meanwhile, there is a family out there that have received tragic and life changing news. This date will be etched in their minds forever.

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 19:10

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:01

It's not guilt tripping.
It's more a case of trying to wipe the smug smiles off the faces of the clever arseholes commenting on here.
To put it in raw context, if you like.
I'm not competing with anyone.
Just explaining how some people on here are seriously pissing me off.
And even after giving context someone felt they had to make a snarky comment.
Mumsnet really is full of twats.

“Be kind or I will call you an arsehole”

hmmmm 🤔

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 19:12

Clementina49er · 11/08/2025 19:08

Here you go: a 55 year old woman who was a pillion passenger on a motorcycle driven by her husband died when she was flung off it in a collision with a car: the husband is in intensive care. If you can bear to look there is a photo of the bike!

https://www.nanotv.it/2025/08/11/torre-annunziata-scavi-grave-incidente-alluscita-dellautostrada-morta-una-donna/

Does that make you feel a bit less cheesed off?

Why would it? It’s more guilt tripping. OP can feel disappointed about her day without it making her a monster. This is sad for this persons loved ones, but not the rest of us.

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 19:13

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 11/08/2025 19:08

Perfectly normal to feel disappointed yes. To feel nothing but disappointment in this situation is actually pretty horrible. In her position I would be disappointed, but I would mainly be sad for the people affected by the accident and very aware of how lucky I was that it wasn’t me. That’s not virtue signaling, it’s the truth. It’s called empathy, something the OP appears to lack.

Also, if the trip was that important to her she should have planned better. It was a ridiculous amount to try to fit into one day with all that travel. Any number of things could have gone wrong to ruin it.

But YOU aren’t virtue signalling here.

I feel like some people on this thread, if they were on OP’s coach, would have filmed themselves falling about wailing and then posted it on their socials to show everyone just how ‘empathetic’ they are.

There is a big difference between empathy and virtue signalling. In some ways they are polar opposites.

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 19:14

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 11/08/2025 19:04

Yes I have a family member like this, they make out to the whole world they're kind and caring , maybe they are to some people, but in my opinion to the wrong people, they're absolutely vile to family, she's actually a nasty abusive bitch.

A friend of mine has a SIL like this. Constantly posting on SM about how open minded and caring she is, supports all the ‘right’ causes. Is a twat and treats her little 5 year old daughter terribly.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:15

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Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 19:17

Charltonstrek · 11/08/2025 18:54

You think my sense of humour is directed at the heart of this topic or the ops comeback think about it

I don’t need to think about.You’re laughing with op who has started this thread.I was interested at the start of thread, then it just took a turn, many of these comments have been deleted, so they can’t be cross referenced, op is denying, that there has been any talk of suicide.
l get it, l’m not saying everyone should feel sad, when someone they don’t know has died in RTA.I have some experience, with people, who have taken their own life or tried too, there’s no funny side to it, that’s where, l took issue in these comments and posters defending them, that’s where the thread took a nasty turn.
I realise this thread is not for me, it’s just pointless getting involved with arguments with people.
I do stand by what l’ve said though.

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 19:18

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“BE KIND AND AGREE WITH ME OR I WILL SAY MEAN THINGS”

Hmmmm 🤔

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 19:19

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 11/08/2025 19:08

Perfectly normal to feel disappointed yes. To feel nothing but disappointment in this situation is actually pretty horrible. In her position I would be disappointed, but I would mainly be sad for the people affected by the accident and very aware of how lucky I was that it wasn’t me. That’s not virtue signaling, it’s the truth. It’s called empathy, something the OP appears to lack.

Also, if the trip was that important to her she should have planned better. It was a ridiculous amount to try to fit into one day with all that travel. Any number of things could have gone wrong to ruin it.

Exactly. OP is essentially asking on their post “is it weird that I have zero empathy for the situation?”

And the answer is “yes, of course it’s weird.”

Others are trying to point out why it’s weird and try and explain the empathy that they might feel in a similar position. I don’t think that’s virtue signalling or trying to compete on grief?

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 19:20

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 19:09

It is guilt tripping and it’s attention seeking behaviour. You are trying to make them feel bad. Why do you need other people to feel bad? Any care wouldn’t be real or have any depth anyway, their life won’t stop in the way that I’m sure yours did when you lost your BIL and mine did when I lost my uncle. Despite losing my uncle in an RTA, I still feel pissed when I get delayed due to an accident. We can’t be upset for everyone, we’d never cope with life.

Spot on

CinnamonCinnabar · 11/08/2025 19:20

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 18:06

Fucking hell this one takes the win for the virtue signalling Olympics 😂

What an odd response - Pompeii is only there for you to visit because it was buried by a volcano, killing an estimated 16000 people in the region. I've nothing against it being a tourist attraction but don't pretend it's not a scene of mass fatalities.

There's about a 100 casts of dead people preserved by the pyroclastic flow.

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 19:22

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 19:19

Exactly. OP is essentially asking on their post “is it weird that I have zero empathy for the situation?”

And the answer is “yes, of course it’s weird.”

Others are trying to point out why it’s weird and try and explain the empathy that they might feel in a similar position. I don’t think that’s virtue signalling or trying to compete on grief?

That’s because what you describe ISNT virtue signalling or competitive grief. Plenty of people have managed to give another perspective to the OP without resorting to these measures.
FWIW, in OP’s situation, I would feel both disappointed and bad for the people involved in the crash. I think that’s a fairly normal position to take.

But some people are being competitive over it and it’s bloody tiring.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:25

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 19:09

It is guilt tripping and it’s attention seeking behaviour. You are trying to make them feel bad. Why do you need other people to feel bad? Any care wouldn’t be real or have any depth anyway, their life won’t stop in the way that I’m sure yours did when you lost your BIL and mine did when I lost my uncle. Despite losing my uncle in an RTA, I still feel pissed when I get delayed due to an accident. We can’t be upset for everyone, we’d never cope with life.

I do agree and I'm sorry you've been through this too.
It was the posters laughing that were pissing me off which is why I thought I'd give some context, (not for sympathy, I actually find sympathetic gestures uncomfortable), my context was to show that whoever died on OP's route was a real person with family members.
Not just an inconvenience.

Allsummernights · 11/08/2025 19:27

I’m an awful person because my first feeling is always annoyed because I will be late or miss something.
I can remember being 4 hours late on the train to Edinburgh because someone died. I felt sorry for the train driver. I did receive a refund of my ticket. And most people on train were also pissed off. Because everyone was moaning.

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 19:29

Allsummernights · 11/08/2025 19:27

I’m an awful person because my first feeling is always annoyed because I will be late or miss something.
I can remember being 4 hours late on the train to Edinburgh because someone died. I felt sorry for the train driver. I did receive a refund of my ticket. And most people on train were also pissed off. Because everyone was moaning.

I genuinely do think most people feel like that IRL too.

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