social media is convincing all our kids they are nd?

[AuntMarch]

I've just been sat on the bus and the tiktok videos I'm hearing almost have me seeking a diagnosis.
"ADHD TEST" Put a finger down if you've ever focused on something so much you've lost track of time/ sometimes think you talk too much or not enough.."
it's basically covered every possible behaviour and it's video after video.

it's no wonder every kid thinks they have something.

Too much ChatGpt on this thread form multiple posters. Boring.

Well you can always toddle off.

I've queried the deleted post as many posts on here are far more questionable!

Me too

So that is your answer.

You can't answer the point, masked ADHD is a contradiction in terms. Masked ADHD is an oxymoron.

So your response is to call this hate speech!

Fine, whatever. I am leaving this thread now anyway.

But I am delighted the tide is turning, it has been a long time coming, but it is clearly happening noa.

I have explained more than once why it isn’t a contradiction in terms.

With attitudes like you have, I am thankful you aren’t teaching my DC.

Yes I'm out too. No fun when it's a mix of Ai and stubborn single mindedness.

Yep - MN is the last place I would go for any kind of support around neurodiversity.

Hate speech = trolling.

No the ride isn’t turning. Far from it. It’s widely acknowledged that autism and ADHD diagnosis and support are hugely underfunded and necessary and that both are under diagnosed. If anything interventions like this will be increasing

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-support-for-neurodivergent-children-in-mainstream-schools

ADHD isn’t appealing however the ‘benefits’ you get socially from being diagnosed are great. some examples from friends and family

• a diagnosis is a good excuse for your kids bad behaviour when in reality it’s bad parenting (again in my family members case not all cases)
• Extra time in exams
• support staff help in schools
• someone I know does have a mobility car with ADHD
• reasonable adjustments at work
• Working from home

i do think it does a disservice to people who really have severe ADHD issues.

I was one of those women who got convinced I had ADHD. Interestingly now I’m on maternity leave my symptoms have mainly disappeared. In reality it’s being bored at my job and overwhelm from working full time and having kids and trying to run a house.

also it has been shown that ADHD symptoms closely align with symptoms of excessive screen time. Which most kids and adults do have!

I should also add I have a friend who very obviously has ADHD and a family member either severe autism. I’m actually saying all the other people who are not severe are getting in the way of the people who truly suffer and minimising it for the true cases.

As has been repeatedly explained you don’t get those things for an ADHD diagnosis, you get them for identified needs. Diagnoses don’t get you support staff help in schools. Often those with identified need AND diagnosis don’t get support.

If the person you know has a mobility car for ADHD than that's because their needs are significant enough to warrant it
My son is autistic and we have a mobility car but thst doesn't mean EVERYONE with a diagnosis of autism well be entitled to one

You don't need a diagnosis to get any of those things and even with a diagnosis they aren't guaranteed as it's based on your needs not the fact you have a diagnosis. How many times does this need to be repeated before people understand it.

As has been repeatedly explained you don’t get those things for an ADHD diagnosis, you get them for identified needs. Diagnoses don’t get you support staff help in schools. Often those with identified need AND diagnosis don’t get support.

@CiffHang3r my nephew has support staff in school and special lessons in school for his ‘naughty behaviour’ which his mum is claiming is ADHD and trying to get a diagnosis.

what about the other ‘benefits’ from my post?

Reasonable adjustments, including working at home, are based on needs, not diagnosis. The Equality Act does not require someone to have a diagnosis in order to be covered by it.

A diagnosis alone doesn’t qualify someone for extra time. And, again, extra time is possible without a diagnosis.

Benefits are based on needs, not diagnosis. A diagnosis isn’t required, and a diagnosis alone doesn’t qualify someone for HRM DLA or enhanced mobility PIP (and this a motability vehicle).

Support is schools is based on needs, not diagnosis.

@x2boys the mum tells us that she lied and over exaggerated the needs to get a car. The child is not disabled.

Well if he's having support staff and special lessons than clearly school can ALSO see there is clearly an issue
Can't you see your contradiction?

@flawlessflipper i actually agree with you. But having a diagnosis does help build up a better picture in order to show your employer you ‘need’ reasonable adjustments.

how would you ‘need’ to work from home. Example could be that you struggle with public transport and strangers. An ADHD diagnosis backs up your need as a kind of proof for your employer. How else can you prove to your employer that you ‘need’ to avoid public transport?

Absolute bollocks
My son gets HRM and I had to go to a tribunal ,this is a child who has Bern in a special school since he was four ,and at 15 is cognitively around 2 /3 so
You are talking crap.

I am curious as to why it bothers people if others get diagnosis or seek diagnosis for something they might not have. I kinda understand the argument that it undermines people who have significant struggles but does it? My DS as I said earlier has diagnosis via NHS and I don't really mind if others with lesser symptoms seek a diagnosis. If future teachers are disinclined to believe his diagnosis because there are so many people with diagnosis I am not sure how that differs to today. Where I find his diagnosis helps is in medical settings. I don't find a huge benefit in school settings. My DS has quite obvious symptoms (not just of asd) and yet teachers seemed oblivious.

I personally am not worried about people seeking diagnosis even if they are misguided. I think there are way more people who could benefit from a diagnosis who don't seek it.

Yes there is clearly an issue. It is bad parenting. He has been dragged up not brought up. His mum is horrible to him. It’s not his fault he is a lovely person but has been around not the best role models.