social media is convincing all our kids they are nd?

[AuntMarch]

I've just been sat on the bus and the tiktok videos I'm hearing almost have me seeking a diagnosis.
"ADHD TEST" Put a finger down if you've ever focused on something so much you've lost track of time/ sometimes think you talk too much or not enough.."
it's basically covered every possible behaviour and it's video after video.

it's no wonder every kid thinks they have something.

You are talking about autism, I am talking about ADHD, masking in autism is completely different. "Masked autism" is not an oxymoron. "masked ADHD" is.

I’ve posted information.

Although it's annoying it comes form chatgpt

Read my previous post. I explain there how some can mask with ADHD. It is not a contradiction.

Your examples are not the same. Although some people can have cancer that is still cancer but they don’t appeal unwell.

Typically people don’t need to take part in compensatory behaviour or self harm in order to manage. They don’t need to role play and script language. They don’t need to be rigid in behaviour. They don’t become exhausted from everyday interaction, which for some can lead to burnout. They don’t experience the coke bottle effect. They aren’t in a state of hyper-vigilance or disconnected with the world. None of that is typical behaviour that people learn.

Well yes however it is a good summary of well known information.

no, it is a good summary of constantly repeated information. That is what it does, repeat what is constantly being said, and what we are discussing on this thread, is to what extent is all this received wisdom a total load of rubbish.

Reported

I have one DC diagnosed with three conditions (including ASD) via NHS. I suspected something from when they were a toddler. One of my family was a teacher in a specialist school and they were quite confident my DS exhibited signs. It took probably about 13 years for me to get a diagnosis and I think partly because I was conscious of jumping on bandwagon. Rather than all of this awareness propelling me to pursue a diagnosis it did the opposite.

What I find more interesting than the self diagnosis is the people with very obvious signs and struggles that don't seek a diagnosis. I know a few people and one in particular really struggles navigating social norms. They get hugely stressed by life and use me as someone to explain why people do X, Y or Z. I am quite exhausted by it. They are more demanding than my DS. They reluctantly say they are probably autistic but see no point in pursuing a diagnosis. I understand that less than people who seek diagnosis for minor things.

I am really heartened by the vote on this thread. For years and years I have lived in this "emperors new clothes" environment in education where we have to kowtow to the mother waving a new private diagnosis, while muttering about waste of time in the staffroom. It could be that maybe the tide is turning, and the whole diagnosis epidemic is now so OTT that it exposes itself for what it is.

As I said, it means nothing in the classroom. Classroom resources are distributed according to need, rather than paperwork, and the two parted company over a decade back

But it would be a very helpful and constructive move for ASD and ADHD to go back to meaning what they truly mean, and for this "Neurodiversity" nonsense to be dropped

People who are ableist shouldn't be in education. As I said, I've reported your comments as hate speech.

I think the criticism is that all of that in that chat gpt list can be a normal human response, maladaptive yes, understandable probably, authentic, no, possibly not. But very common and caused by many things.

So going back to the OP, the worry might be that it becomes a fixed diagnosis that cannot be changed and that is an understandable worry where children are concerned.

Good point

The trouble with these types of things (such as a list posted by a previous poster) is that it makes it seem that if you struggle with any sort of situation that is because you are neurodiverse and that if you weren’t, everything would be easy. That is just not true - it is part of normal human experience to struggle with some things!

You've been deleted for troll hunting.

Only if you are ignorant or choose to be ignorant re how difficult ADHD is to live with and manage. There is a reason why self harm and suicide attempts are so high within the ADHD population.

Examples of masking:

• Studying and then copying other people’s behaviour and body language
• Overcompensating or overprepeparing - for example obsessively checking and rechecking and rerechecking your work due to the fear of making mistakes. Or working late, to do the job extra thoroughly for fear of people thinking you are lazy or don’t care because of the mistakes you make due to acting impulsively
• Pretending to understand instructions and hoping to work it out later
• Forcing oneself to sit still when whole body is screaming to move
• Creating elaborate reminder systems to avoid forgetting appointments
• concealing emotions such as frustration

it is exhausting. You have to operate at full effort just to appear normal.

Kindly, perhaps this would be a good time to step back and take a break from this thread if it is distressing you. It's ok to discuss and disagree and no it won't always feel comfortable but c'est la vie. If you feel especially perturbed please look after yourself and take a screen break.

No abelism shouldn’t be at the level it distresses those suffering with disabilities.

That's a separate topic. Renamedyetagain says they are distressed but his thread and if this is true it's best to take a break form a self care perspective. She can always chose to come back to it and argue her point when she feels less distressed.

I haven't been deleted for troll hunting BTW.

We clearly have a long way to go before those that struggle with conditions are believed, supported, recognized and understood..instead of mocked, insulted, disregarded and sidelined.

Maybe flip it around and ask why you feel that people shouldn’t get a diagnosis for a condition they’ve struggled with their entire life?

Has she? I can only see posts deleted for abelism?

Exactly this!

MN seems to be a particularly bad place for this and it’s often the same posters who have a strange obsession with doing it. It’s like a form of bullying you see in schools- let’s see how much we can wind up the ND kids.

They really need to get a handle on it.

It’s not a contradiction in the slightest. Many people with ADHD will massively over-compensate and build in long routines and plans so that their condition isn’t as visible to the outside world.

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I reported your post, MN deleted it due to troll hunting.