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To think Kate and William saw Harry and Meghan as a real threat to their image?

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BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 11:32

From the moment Harry and Meghan got together, the media attention was huge. Meghan was glamorous, charismatic, and had a strong public presence - something the royal family hadn’t seen before from an outsider. For a while, it felt like they were the most exciting and modern part of the monarchy.

Kate and William have always been the “stable” and “traditional” royals but suddenly, Harry and Meghan were drawing attention in a way that might have made them seem more relatable and interesting in comparison. The shift in public perception (and maybe even palace dynamics) must have been unsettling.

Obviously things have played out the way they have but AIBU to think that, at least at the time, William and Kate felt genuinely threatened by how much attention and influence Harry and Meghan were gaining?

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ginasevern · 09/08/2025 12:13

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 11:50

Of course Diana and Armstrong-Jones brought glamour in their eras but that was decades ago. Meghan’s appeal was a different kind, rooted in a modern, global profile. That contrast to Kate’s more traditional image is exactly why it may have felt disruptive.

I actually agree with your original post but you do realise that Diana was probably the most famous woman the world had ever seen? Global profile! I don't think anyone's ever topped it.

Idontknowhatnametochoose · 09/08/2025 12:14

Katherine comes across as a genuine and kind person. Meghan definitely doesn't. The public sees that.

PistachioTiramisu · 09/08/2025 12:15

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 11:44

From her first public appearances - Invictus Games, the engagement interview, and her early royal engagements, she brought a different energy and style that got a lot of media attention. Whether people liked her or not, she clearly made an impact.

The engagement interview was the most cringeworthy, embarrassing performance of all! So false.

AuntyDepressant · 09/08/2025 12:15

You do realise Kate and William don’t actually make any of their own decisions? This was all orchestrated from behind the scenes by the establishment.

Vivienne1000 · 09/08/2025 12:16

Future King and Queen or influencers in California?
I bet Catherine and William are so jealous that they don’t spend their days making fake jams and promoting the me me me lifestyle.

Nanny0gg · 09/08/2025 12:17

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 11:44

From her first public appearances - Invictus Games, the engagement interview, and her early royal engagements, she brought a different energy and style that got a lot of media attention. Whether people liked her or not, she clearly made an impact.

So does a wrecking ball...

LouisaJG · 09/08/2025 12:18

Vaxtable · 09/08/2025 12:02

Hi Meghan

Let me spell it out for you, Williams and Catherine are the future King and Queen of this country. You will always play second fiddle to them and I firmly believe the only one threatened was you as you couldn’t get your own way

Catherine, as well as Sophie all tried to help you mitigate into and old family, set in their ways, and actually Harry should have supported you better and explained how the image of the RF works in this country, changes will be made but slowly

Because you didn’t get your own way, stamping your feet, you threw your toys out of your pram and left, good we don’t need Royals you and your husband

you can learn a lot from the current, smaller Royal Family

Oh dear

looking forward to King Williams though. Williams I!

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 12:19

ginasevern · 09/08/2025 12:13

I actually agree with your original post but you do realise that Diana was probably the most famous woman the world had ever seen? Global profile! I don't think anyone's ever topped it.

Oh absolutely, Diana’s global profile was unmatched in her time. I meant that Meghan’s was a different type of profile - coming from an established career in entertainment and activism before marrying in, which is rare for modern royals. That contrast is what I think created the disruption.

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toiletpiper · 09/08/2025 12:19

But William and Catherine are the next king and queen. Harry was always gonig to be second fiddle to his big brother. They have nothing to be "threatened" about.

I don't get these responses. Why would the fact you will be King mean you wouldn't be threatened? Charles was definitely threatened by Diana, I think the whole RF as an institution was.

Happyher · 09/08/2025 12:19

Do you honestly think W & K would look at them and be worried?? That a B list US actress could outshine them? Look what happened last time an American had designs on the Crown

stuffedpeppers · 09/08/2025 12:19

yes they had seen this before - circa Diana! They also knew how badly that had gone.

Meghan and Harry think they can copy Diana but make profit from it. Harry was not her only son - but you never see C&W trying to recreate "iconic" Diana moments. They both wanted what C&W had and were going to have.
Sad, as at the beginning I thought it was good and a different perspective but they blew it so badly. More Andrew less Anne/Edward.

PollyBell · 09/08/2025 12:19

Vivienne1000 · 09/08/2025 12:16

Future King and Queen or influencers in California?
I bet Catherine and William are so jealous that they don’t spend their days making fake jams and promoting the me me me lifestyle.

I presume Kate and William spend all theor time hugging photos of Meghan and Harry wailing and crying 'why did you leave me this way' wearing dressing gowns with egg yolk stains and fags hanging out of their mouth begging for forgiveness and are devastated they have a life

tooloololoo · 09/08/2025 12:20

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 11:40

Being future king and queen doesn’t mean they’re immune to human feelings like competitiveness or image management, especially when the press plays favourites. The Firm has always cared about public perception.

I agree

OrangeAxolotyl · 09/08/2025 12:20

They were probably relieved someone was prepared to take Harry on. It's worked out fine though with Meghan selling pancake mix and whatnot and Harry developing a career as a professional whinger. Power couple!

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 12:20

AuntyDepressant · 09/08/2025 12:15

You do realise Kate and William don’t actually make any of their own decisions? This was all orchestrated from behind the scenes by the establishment.

I agree the institution plays a huge role but people still influence how those dynamics play out, especially when it comes to personal relationships and the subtle signals they send in public.

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PollyBell · 09/08/2025 12:21

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 12:20

I agree the institution plays a huge role but people still influence how those dynamics play out, especially when it comes to personal relationships and the subtle signals they send in public.

Smoke signals?

toiletpiper · 09/08/2025 12:22

You do realise Kate and William don’t actually make any of their own decisions? This was all orchestrated from behind the scenes by the establishment.

But why is there a need for the establishment to do this now? It's so archaic

OrangeAxolotyl · 09/08/2025 12:22

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 12:20

I agree the institution plays a huge role but people still influence how those dynamics play out, especially when it comes to personal relationships and the subtle signals they send in public.

"Buy my fruit based spread"?

plinkityplink · 09/08/2025 12:23

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bumbaloo · 09/08/2025 12:23

I think in the beginning yes. I pick up definite vibes of disingenuous niceness from William and Kate.

I think they are not bad people but I think they are driven from a very self aggrandising place. And I very much suspect they were not overly helpful in making space for any new comers.

just too many instances from way back where it served their purpose to remain quiet when Harry was used as a deflection from them. Times when Harry was lambasted in the press for some behaviour that took place with William and sometimes Kate but the media chose to keep quiet about their presence and similarly drunk behaviour.

Before the typical mob come for me and start insisting I am done covert agent for the Sussexes 🙄 I don’t think H&M have been great either. I think they are very flawed. I just don’t think anyone in this saga comes out smelling of roses.

Theunamedcat · 09/08/2025 12:23

BluntPinkNewt · 09/08/2025 11:40

Being future king and queen doesn’t mean they’re immune to human feelings like competitiveness or image management, especially when the press plays favourites. The Firm has always cared about public perception.

Not really they tend to ride roughshod over a lot of things and "never complain never explain?" Just another example of grey rock

jeffgoldblum · 09/08/2025 12:23

🤣 yes you are being unreasonable! , there has never been a competition between the heir to the throne and the fifth in line!
only people like you think there was! 🤷‍♀️

bumbaloo · 09/08/2025 12:24

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How? How could you not tell she is mixed race? When people say this I am dumbstruck. It is exceedingly obvious to me that she is mixed. She’s clearly not 100% white.

toiletpiper · 09/08/2025 12:24

I think they are very flawed. I just don’t think anyone in this saga comes out smelling of roses.

Quite but logic isn't welcome on most of these threads. I mean look at some of the posts, batshit 😆

toiletpiper · 09/08/2025 12:25

the other thing is I genuinely had no idea her mother was black. All the talk about racism bemused me, she may identify as black but she sure as hell doesn’t look it!

This is racist...