To think Kate and William saw Harry and Meghan as a real threat to their image?

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From the moment Harry and Meghan got together, the media attention was huge. Meghan was glamorous, charismatic, and had a strong public presence - something the royal family hadn’t seen before from an outsider. For a while, it felt like they were the most exciting and modern part of the monarchy.

Kate and William have always been the “stable” and “traditional” royals but suddenly, Harry and Meghan were drawing attention in a way that might have made them seem more relatable and interesting in comparison. The shift in public perception (and maybe even palace dynamics) must have been unsettling.

Obviously things have played out the way they have but AIBU to think that, at least at the time, William and Kate felt genuinely threatened by how much attention and influence Harry and Meghan were gaining?

I think they all knew there was issues, not sure I’d say they saw th3 words you wrote, but they could all see it was problematic and Harry was rushing into it, what is it someone leaked, that Harry was in love, he’s always rhe same with women, but they all were doubtful Megan was and was more she was manipulating to get herself married to him.

Sadly as Harry;s true persona has now emerged, it’s become apparent he is no catch. Had he stayed in the uk, continued royal duties, I think he’d be a much happier man, and had Megan not wanted to use the marriage as leverage to catapult herself in with the USA power players, I think they’d be much happier. But she’s deeply ambitious, saw an opportunity, failed to think it through, and he’s weak willed with low intelligence, the result is the disaster we see today. Neither of them fit for purpose.

snd the saddest thing is Harry has now stopped leaking about coming back to the uk, remains to be seen if he will come back snd bring the kids to visit his father, or the fact his father won’t allow half in half out means he will continue to punish him and not do so. It’s just tragic.

Camilla has never worked. She's a hideous manipulator who just hung around Charles from day one. It's well documented.

Where is the actual evidence that Meghan is so bad? I really want to find out why she is such a hate figure.

Saying M and H are vile but condoning Charles and Camilla never ceases to amaze me. What they did to Catherine? Charles and Camilla had been manipulating and torturing Diana throughout their marriage. THEY are vile.

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a huge point of the RF is to be in the community, opening events, rubbing shoulders with the great British public, giving awards, opening community community centres and the like, meeting people who have done well, had bad luck etc, everyone in the senior RF do their bit for the country who pays for their properties, clothes, food, staff. They also do some more interesting events, rubbing shoulders with leaders, stars, etc … it’s very much both. H&M decided they only wanted what THEY CHOSE to do, that’s not the job. I’m not going to entertain A&F, they’re as bad as H&M, using and abusing the RF good name for their own gain

Isnt that what William is now doing though choosing what he wants to do...I mean he is turning down doing certain things, has been vocal in wanting to do less...
Sounds like choosing to me

Worlds apart, William will soon be king, no doubt he has a lot of things on his plate, including a wife who has been extremely unwell, H&M are spares, they should have been there doing to meets and greets etc to leave William time to take the reins / reigns because he’ll likely be doing more and more over the coming months and hopefully years, but H&M just need to do their public service, they don’t want their role, they want the W&K role so have flounced, told a pack of lies about anything they feel may sell a story, and now the world is seeing straight through these thinly veiled publicity junkies and money grabbing clowns … sadly Megain either didn’t realise she was also the very lowest rung of the senior royals, or she did what many think, jumped in, took what she could get to then blag off someone else’s hard work .. again !

You understand the man has three young children, a wife who had cancer and is clearly still recovering, and will work till the day he drops. He also oversees the duchy of Cornwall, and is patron for many charities and runs his own staff and offices, not everything is just turning up and shaking hands. Or maybe you don’t.

To be honest I don’t think they are spares any more, they were, but that day is long gone.

If something happened to Charles and William it would be George who would immediately be king, with a regent appointed but that person needs to be resident in the uk. That was Harry but as he is now officially resident in the USA, so I’m fairly sure, it can’t be him. so it’s andrew. George would still be king though. However parliament can amend the law, to aappoint someone other than andrew, so they could appoint Anne or Edward.

im fairly sure the USA residency means that they are not. even spares any more.

so i think Their day as spares has gone now they are resident in the USA. Andrew is first in line as uk resident, but as said parliament can change the law and make it Anne or Edward is andrew is unable or unwilling to serve, which I am fairly sure he would decline. I’d guess Anne.

but it’s onky for less than 6 years as George was 12 in the summer, and it’s till 18.

I wonder why this bs thread has been resurrected?

Are you on glue?

William hasn't particularly said he wants to do less work he has said he wants to do things differently

It's really not a bad thing

I hardly see it as 'work' in the actual sense and even if it is, he is rewarded extremely handsomely for it. Many people are ill, lose loved ones and just have to get on with it, often with nothing. I cannot support an institution like this in the 21st century when many people are just scraping by. Yes Catherine had cancer, but she was treated quicker than any Joe Bloggs would have been. Many are dying because they can't even get an appointment. It's wrong, no matter what your standpoint on the royals is.

But to get back to topic, until someone produces evidence of what it is that has made Meghan such a hate figure, I will always maintain she had to go because she was taking the shine off the future queen consort. I often wonder what would happen if the girl killed herself due to the online hatred she receives.

Getting treated fast for cancer is a postcode lottery though in my area as long as your the correct age you will be tested treated rapidly they are however blind to cancers in young adults

evidence of what it is that has made Meghan such a hate figure, I will always maintain she had to go because she was taking the shine off the future queen consort. I often wonder what would happen if the girl killed herself due to the online hatred she receives.
Maintain what you like. She definitely wasn't taking the shine off the then Duchess of Cambridge.

But you're saying that because you're a fan of Catherine, it isn't subjective. This loyalty that people have to this absolutely toxic family is astounding. Queen Elizabeth was the exception due to her attitude and long standing, but now? It's laughable. And Meghan DID take the shine off Catherine, especially in those early days. She has her own personality, refuses to be put in a box like Catherine who (understandably) has to act in a certain way, and for that reason it was NEVER going to work for Meghan. I saw it from the minute I found out she had a background in acting. She was never going to be royal material. But it IS hypocritical considering the queen consort is an adulteress whose tales of manipulation over Princess Diana are well documented back to before Charles and Di got married. I'm sick to death of the hatred towards Meghan, but absolutely none of it being geared towards the current laughable king and queen, sex offender Andrew and William and Catherine's mood swings and having to be top dogs.

I'm not particularly a fan of Catherine, and I don't hate Meghan. I don't know them.
MM seemed wrong from the minute I heard of her. Gushy, fake, american, divorced, actor. She and her now husband didn't look like a couple - just like Charles and Diana didn't.
She was in the same position as Sarah had been before her, and it wasn't going to suit her.

The whole "taking the shine off each other" won't have come as a surprise to anyone in the RF.

Harry's new wife, regardless of who she was, was going to be pitched against Catherine by certain aspects of the press. There was always always going to media media pitching of "oh William and Harry's wives are besties" followed by "William and Harry's wives are enemies" regardless of who either of them married.

Just the same as they desperately pitched Sarah and Diana against each other. And Sophie and Diana. And Anne and Diana. And QEII and Princess Margaret. Princess Alexandra and Princess Margaret (there were some brutal articles about Alexandra's 'fresh' beauty compared to Margaret at one point).

It's what sections of the media do with women in the royal family.

Kate, yes. William probably not so much. Harry is his brother, after all.

But yes, Kate. Megan, a much more glamorous, famous woman prior to marriage. A success in her own right. Lots of cachet. Plus, at a different stage in her life to Kate, with all the media attention and the romance with no pressure to marry due to a need for heirs for succession.

Yep!

I think Kate and William saw straight through Meghan after a short time and they have been proved correct in their assessment of her ever since.

I've always believed the same, CoralPombear

It's often said on here that "you don't know her" and that's true ... but the family do, and we're seeing the results

Yes, agree, CoralPombear. I think we’ve all been in that position with a family member or friend.

Sorry Meghan was not and never will be Princess Diana. Yes the Royal Family had seen this before and knew how badly it can play out.

The _Royal Family is about sustainability and stability, flash in the pans come and go

How can you say that when the RF are capable of spinning and covering up almost anything?? The majority of them are FAR from sainthood themselves.