To think Kate and William saw Harry and Meghan as a real threat to their image?

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From the moment Harry and Meghan got together, the media attention was huge. Meghan was glamorous, charismatic, and had a strong public presence - something the royal family hadn’t seen before from an outsider. For a while, it felt like they were the most exciting and modern part of the monarchy.

Kate and William have always been the “stable” and “traditional” royals but suddenly, Harry and Meghan were drawing attention in a way that might have made them seem more relatable and interesting in comparison. The shift in public perception (and maybe even palace dynamics) must have been unsettling.

Obviously things have played out the way they have but AIBU to think that, at least at the time, William and Kate felt genuinely threatened by how much attention and influence Harry and Meghan were gaining?

How do you know it is when he pleases? Are you connected to the decision making process?

Did she tell you that or do you have 'sources close to' ?

Well you are right ! It probably wasn’t ’with pleasure ‘ William was likely dragged kicking and screaming to do the little he did

When Anne is leaking to the press about his laziness , it must be a real issue
But we can see for ourselves that he’s on holiday most of the time

Not as much as his Auntie Anne would like

It was inevitable. William will be king one day. It isn't an achievement winning. They won by default.

I would describe the late Princess Margaret as attention-grabbing rather than glamorous. Wearing frocks and being a bitchy drunk does not really qualify as glamour in my view.

I’d like to hear all about the charity work you all do every single day and dealing with the online abuse. I’ll wait. Hypocrites hiding behind a keyboard as usual.

indeed just as harry is the spare by default, its. to about winning or popularity it's the rules of monarchy.

I think those behind the scenes cared more

According to William and Catherine's former chef, the children don't eat meals with their parents:

'According to McGrady, the Prince and Princess of Wales’ three children “aren’t allowed to sit with the adults until they have learned the art of polite conversation”. He also noted that there were never any exceptions, including for larger holidays like Christmas.

Rather, McGrady said that the three children would eat with their nannies in the nursery. “The children always ate in the nursery until they were old enough to conduct themselves properly at the dining table,” he said.'

It does make one wonder how much hands-on childcare they do for their own children, especially as Catherine's special interest is Early Years and her own 'Early Childhood - Royal Foundation' website says:

'Over the last decade, The Princess of Wales has spent time looking into how experiences in early childhood are often the root cause of today’s hardest social challenges, such as addiction, family breakdown, poor mental health, suicide and homelessness.'

This is obviously aimed at the lower social classes but the children of the wealthy can also be permanently affected by adverse childhood experiences, such as the sexual abuse that Diana's brother experienced at his boarding school.

I think what happens is they don't do much when their children are young as they're expected to carry out duties until they die. A La HMTLQ

We have it straight from the horse’s mouth that the royals work closely with the tabloids and feed them stories about one royal so they leave another alone. Why would Harry say this about his own family if it’s not true?

According to William and Catherine's former chef, the children don't eat meals with their parents

I wonder if he was referring to the more formal, "occasion" sort of meals which involve more of the family?

I could be wrong of course, but doubt this would apply to meals at home or even more low key events with friends?

Having worked in semi aristocratic homes when I was younger, it is very very normal for children not to eat with parents. The children eat earlier, either together or with the nanny. Adults eat later, totally different food to the children.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if this was the situation in the Wales home. It is normal in their social environment.

Of course it's true and has been going on forever!

They have different households each with their own teams. There's leaking, planting of stories,
If not, where do these stories come from quoting 'royal sources'? Briefing 'off the record' has to come from somewhere!

one does not preclude the other - why the sour description

did anyone here attend the Dior Exhibition at V&A Summer 2019? 600,000 visitors
so a good chance someone did ! who remembers Princess Margaret’s 21st birthday Dior dress, with photograph of her wearing it, seated at Sandringham.

Princess Margaret was indeed glamorous, knew what suited her and had an excellent dresser.
She was petite and very pretty when she was young, always well turned out, popularised dark sunglasses, peep toe shoes handbags with long straps, head scarves worn ‘student’ fashion, always stylish and fashionable.

I have seen her wedding dress at BP, so tiny, and her beautiful unusual veil. Glamorous.

@thepariscrimefiles you're quoting Darren McGrady? The ex royal chef who left the RF in 1998? A chef who would have no idea of the dining set up of the P&PoW? That tracks...

We are neither hypocrites nor Royal, rendering your comment both meaningless
and offensive, which is quite a feat

McGrady was the chef to Diana and cooked for William and Harry. I've read that the current Wales' children help with setting the table, clearing away etc so I find it unlikely they eat separately.

yes exactly, for a chef in a position of trust and discretion he is akin to Burrell’s understudy, with videos on youtube, he is a shameless tart, pardon the pun

Why do I get the feeling all these harry and Megan threads are started by their fans in recent days. Most people have forgotten about the Sussexes and find them irrelevant.

Hmmm. Despite the constant (admittedly boring and repetitive) media focus on them.

I'm sure in the beginning everyone including Will and Kate thought Meghan was glamorous. If W and K did feel threatened I doubt it lasted long. Meghan is too fake and over the top like a caricature of herself. And Harry believed he couldn't do any wrong as he thinks he's the real heir of Diana. But the world except the gullibles can see how fake these two are.

I believe Will and Kate are more exasperated by Harry and Megan's antics and are worried what these loose cannons would do next to ruin the family and the future of the monarchy.

It's normal for aristos children to eat separately and to pack them off to boarding school. It's no bloody wonder so many of them are emotionally dysfunctional. They should read up on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

It was regularly reported that Catherine upped her fashion game after the arrival of Megan. Apparently she went from relatively dowdy to a style more pleasing to fashionistas (I'm not fashionable so have no idea). So maybe there was a bit of competition, but it sounds as though W&C didn't get off on the right foot with Megan anyway. It must have been so disappointing!