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to feel hurt that some women who cannot conceive seem to take it out on other women who get pregnant but never the men?

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joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 17:53

I struggled with infertility for years. It was painful, isolating, and at times it felt like my body was betraying me. Along the way, I made a few close friendships with other women who were going through the same. We bonded over the grief, the tests, the waiting, the hope.

But when I finally got pregnant, something I never even believed would happen, I was overjoyed, but also mindful. I didn’t make big announcements. I tried to be sensitive. But several of those women just cut me off, almost overnight. No explanation, no "I need space", just silence. It hurt deeply.

What confuses me is that their anger or pain seemed to be directed only at me, the woman who got pregnant not at my husband. As if I did something to them personally. As if my pregnancy was a betrayal. But the men? Never held to account. No one stopped talking to my husband.

I completely understand that grief and comparison can make people pull away. I know it's not always rational. I know what it feels like to watch others get what you’re desperately hoping for. But I never imagined that when it finally happened to me, I'd lose people I’d once leaned on.

AIBU to feel like there’s something deeply unfair about how women carry so much of this emotional fallout, sometimes even punishing each other while men walk away untouched?

OP posts:
verycloakanddaggers · 08/08/2025 22:36

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 20:51

I get where you’re coming from, but saying I don’t know their pain just because my story ended differently isn’t fair.

I’ve been through infertility too. The negative tests, the failed cycles, the constant waiting and hoping. I lived all of that. Just because I eventually had a baby doesn’t mean I forgot what that pain feels like. It stays with you.
Of course our situations are different now. I’m not pretending they’re the same.

But it doesn’t mean I suddenly stopped understanding. It also doesn’t mean I can’t feel hurt when people I stood by for years cut me off without a word.

Different endings don’t erase shared experiences.

Nothing has been erased, but your paths diverged very widely.

Grieve it, but also understand why they did it.

You don't sound like you care for them really, just angry.

Hedgehogbrown · 08/08/2025 22:40

People are being contrary here for the sake of it. Yes it's unreasonable and not very nice to cut a friend off entirely for getting pregnant. They need therapy to sort it out or they will end up with no friends.

TheTwitcher11 · 08/08/2025 22:48

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 22:15

You do understand that as a parent you constantly have to think of other people and not just your own family. Honestly if you think like that maybe being a parent isn't the right thing for you.

But they aren’t parents, are they? That’s the whole point or are you reading the same thread?

Swirlythingy2025 · 08/08/2025 22:49

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 19:38

My husband has been over to their house to watch football or go to a sporting event. In some cases, the wife has been there too. They have chatted, been friendly and it has all been completely normal. There was no awkwardness, no distancing, no silence.

but that seems its more because the other women do it to support their husbands rather than your dh directly

TheTwitcher11 · 08/08/2025 22:51

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 22:15

You do understand that as a parent you constantly have to think of other people and not just your own family. Honestly if you think like that maybe being a parent isn't the right thing for you.

Further to that - I’m not saying egg their house or verbally abuse the pregnant lady - i’m saying it’s understandable if you’d want to distance yourself to protect your own feelings? Not sure what that has to do with me being a mother 🤣

KimberleyClark · 08/08/2025 23:09

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 21:48

Because they're friends and you should be happy for people, even if they have things you haven't, especially when you can appreciate their difficulties they've had getting to that place.

Most people in their lives have something that they've been unable to achieve.

Yes, but how many of those things are comparable to not being able to have the children you wanted? That cause genuine grief and heartbreak as opposed to disappointment?

Greengagesnfennel · 08/08/2025 23:17

Yabvu.
i never experienced infertility personally, but I can still see that it will be different between how they feel about you and your husband. They self-identified with you (before), not now. Now you are ‘other’. That was part of your relationship. They never had much in common with your husband (he was always ‘other’ in most aspects) so that relationship has changed less.
maybe your friendship hung on the fertility self-identification and there wasn’t a deeper bond there outside of it. Could that be it? Did you connect with people over other things? Hobbies, personal history, places?

MrsFrumble · 08/08/2025 23:22

How long has it been since you announced your pregnancy OP? And how many friends are behaving like this?

I didn’t want to see or talk to my SIL for a few months when I found out she was pregnant. I’d recently had a miscarriage, DH had just been diagnosed with cancer and SIL announced it in a very tactless way given the circumstances. Eventually my annoyance faded and I missed her so I got back in touch. Maybe your friends will too in future.

Ella31 · 09/08/2025 00:03

It's all relative. I definitely don't think some of the "well you got your baby" comments are helpful. My twin sons died at birth 20 months ago. One boy stillborn and his brother died in my arms 4 days later. They were supposed to be our rainbow after two miscarriages. I did have my rainbow eventually but its horrible being told well you got pregnant. Yeah except the price we paid is that our two precious sons are in a grave and we will never get over it. I'm not in competition with anyone who lost a child or can't conceive. Grief is grief and I respect that.

Op, people will distance themselves with loss and infertility because its so painful and obviously if you are pregnant , its very tough on that person. You need to respect that. I dont think its thst they are blaming the woman. It's just that a woman is visibly pregnant. I avoided pregnant women like the plague when my boys died. I was so sad. I cant even stay in the same space as twins these days without being overwhelmed.

ScruffyTrouserMindFlip · 09/08/2025 00:24

That's so awful @Ella31 So sorry to hear that happened to you x

BernardButlersBra · 09/08/2025 00:40

Tricky one. I have been on both sides of it. I know only 1 person in real life who has had more fertility treatment than us. We got there eventually after 5 years. I put the most amount of effort pretty much that is really possible and lm quite unrepentant about that. Yes, they are hurting but they can't take it out of me. Don't get me started about the people who think they have fertility issues after 5 months of trying 🤣🤣🤣

We met a couple at antenatal who conceived 1 round of trying after they got married. Then had a miscarriage this spring and dropped us like a hot potato during this. Fair enough and l haven't given it any head space. Not my fault our numerous IVF transfer eventually worked and we got twins. We started trying waaay before they even met. They were lucky the 1st time but not subsequently but they are the breaks

OriginalUsername2 · 09/08/2025 00:53

I think women should be forgiven for being unreasonable in these situations of infertility and loss. The pain cuts deep. It’s not rational, but it’s there and it’s incredibly painful.

InWalksBarberalla · 09/08/2025 01:09

I think it's because most woman struggling with infertility hope and dream of becoming a mother, not a father. And I have known an instance when a man distanced himself from his male friends who had become fathers when he couldn't because of the pain.

DrFoxtrot · 09/08/2025 01:20

It’s a difficult situation and I don’t think either side are unreasonable. I can understand why the other women may keep their distance but also why you’d feel hurt. Your feelings are valid.

it might be helpful to work out how to move forward and leave the friendships behind for good. And I would include considering not contacting them if they reach out to you. You also have to protect your mental health, like they are doing, and you are not an object to be put down and picked up again when it suits people. In your shoes, I would also consider whether DH would be best creating some distance too, in support of your situation.

DashboardConfession · 09/08/2025 01:27

InWalksBarberalla · 09/08/2025 01:09

I think it's because most woman struggling with infertility hope and dream of becoming a mother, not a father. And I have known an instance when a man distanced himself from his male friends who had become fathers when he couldn't because of the pain.

I tried this but the AI bot, I mean OP, said that the husbands in this particular group don't avoid her H so it doesn't happen!

Honestly OP, if this is in fact a real POV - "the woman gets cut off and not the man" is not a general thing, it's just your group of friends. For all we know they're a bunch of horrible women in the first place.

TheTwitcher11 · 09/08/2025 01:29

Ella31 · 09/08/2025 00:03

It's all relative. I definitely don't think some of the "well you got your baby" comments are helpful. My twin sons died at birth 20 months ago. One boy stillborn and his brother died in my arms 4 days later. They were supposed to be our rainbow after two miscarriages. I did have my rainbow eventually but its horrible being told well you got pregnant. Yeah except the price we paid is that our two precious sons are in a grave and we will never get over it. I'm not in competition with anyone who lost a child or can't conceive. Grief is grief and I respect that.

Op, people will distance themselves with loss and infertility because its so painful and obviously if you are pregnant , its very tough on that person. You need to respect that. I dont think its thst they are blaming the woman. It's just that a woman is visibly pregnant. I avoided pregnant women like the plague when my boys died. I was so sad. I cant even stay in the same space as twins these days without being overwhelmed.

Sorry to hear this ❤️

Adultautismdiagnosis · 09/08/2025 06:27

Pasithean · 08/08/2025 21:21

It was the opposite for me I lost my friend group as they each got pregnant

Me too

joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 08:05

verycloakanddaggers · 08/08/2025 22:36

Nothing has been erased, but your paths diverged very widely.

Grieve it, but also understand why they did it.

You don't sound like you care for them really, just angry.

I have no anger at all towards them.

OP posts:
joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 08:06

DashboardConfession · 09/08/2025 01:27

I tried this but the AI bot, I mean OP, said that the husbands in this particular group don't avoid her H so it doesn't happen!

Honestly OP, if this is in fact a real POV - "the woman gets cut off and not the man" is not a general thing, it's just your group of friends. For all we know they're a bunch of horrible women in the first place.

Edited

If you think I am an AI bot, why reply then?

OP posts:
joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 08:09

DrFoxtrot · 09/08/2025 01:20

It’s a difficult situation and I don’t think either side are unreasonable. I can understand why the other women may keep their distance but also why you’d feel hurt. Your feelings are valid.

it might be helpful to work out how to move forward and leave the friendships behind for good. And I would include considering not contacting them if they reach out to you. You also have to protect your mental health, like they are doing, and you are not an object to be put down and picked up again when it suits people. In your shoes, I would also consider whether DH would be best creating some distance too, in support of your situation.

This is good balanced advice.

I have left the friendships behind. I will not respond if they reach out to me. One did when she finally had a baby but I am not happy to be picked up and dropped when it suits as you mentioned.

I talked to DH and he will be not be seeing the friends anymore.

OP posts:
joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 08:13

Ella31 · 09/08/2025 00:03

It's all relative. I definitely don't think some of the "well you got your baby" comments are helpful. My twin sons died at birth 20 months ago. One boy stillborn and his brother died in my arms 4 days later. They were supposed to be our rainbow after two miscarriages. I did have my rainbow eventually but its horrible being told well you got pregnant. Yeah except the price we paid is that our two precious sons are in a grave and we will never get over it. I'm not in competition with anyone who lost a child or can't conceive. Grief is grief and I respect that.

Op, people will distance themselves with loss and infertility because its so painful and obviously if you are pregnant , its very tough on that person. You need to respect that. I dont think its thst they are blaming the woman. It's just that a woman is visibly pregnant. I avoided pregnant women like the plague when my boys died. I was so sad. I cant even stay in the same space as twins these days without being overwhelmed.

I am so sorry Ella that you lost your twin boys. That is absolutely heartbreaking,

I don't find the comments helpful either once a baby comes,

I already gave birth a child that died. So people telling me I now have my baby are acting like I have no idea of the pain.

OP posts:
CottageGoblin · 09/08/2025 08:13

Why has it taken so long to get support on this from your DH, considering how much you’re hurting?

joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 08:17

CottageGoblin · 09/08/2025 08:13

Why has it taken so long to get support on this from your DH, considering how much you’re hurting?

What was he supposed to say to his friend when he went over to watch football? Tell his wife to get out of the house and not talk to him?

They went to a football match and she was there too. Should he have come home? He wasn't expecting her to be there.

OP posts:
KimberleyClark · 09/08/2025 08:19

joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 08:13

I am so sorry Ella that you lost your twin boys. That is absolutely heartbreaking,

I don't find the comments helpful either once a baby comes,

I already gave birth a child that died. So people telling me I now have my baby are acting like I have no idea of the pain.

I’m really sorry, I didn’t know you had already lost a baby when I commented.

CottageGoblin · 09/08/2025 08:20

How’s about say something to her like “joyjoyw hasn’t heard from you?”
”is everything ok with joyjoyw?” Or “my wife misses you”
theres lots of things he could do in support of you.
and lots of posters have mentioned your lack of DH support, which you’ve not really addressed.

I agree with a pp. their behaviour isn’t typical. It’s just this friend group. And they don’t sound like good friends