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to feel hurt that some women who cannot conceive seem to take it out on other women who get pregnant but never the men?

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joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 17:53

I struggled with infertility for years. It was painful, isolating, and at times it felt like my body was betraying me. Along the way, I made a few close friendships with other women who were going through the same. We bonded over the grief, the tests, the waiting, the hope.

But when I finally got pregnant, something I never even believed would happen, I was overjoyed, but also mindful. I didn’t make big announcements. I tried to be sensitive. But several of those women just cut me off, almost overnight. No explanation, no "I need space", just silence. It hurt deeply.

What confuses me is that their anger or pain seemed to be directed only at me, the woman who got pregnant not at my husband. As if I did something to them personally. As if my pregnancy was a betrayal. But the men? Never held to account. No one stopped talking to my husband.

I completely understand that grief and comparison can make people pull away. I know it's not always rational. I know what it feels like to watch others get what you’re desperately hoping for. But I never imagined that when it finally happened to me, I'd lose people I’d once leaned on.

AIBU to feel like there’s something deeply unfair about how women carry so much of this emotional fallout, sometimes even punishing each other while men walk away untouched?

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namechangeGOT · 10/08/2025 21:01

OP, let’s say that the couples who you were friends with continued on with nights out, weekends away, allll the things you did before you got pregnant would you have gone on them? Left baby at home to go away for weekends away with them, had nights out despite perhaps not being ready, been happy to leave baby talk at home every time you went out with them or met up for a coffee? Would that have been okay? Or would you have wanted to speak about baby? Refused invites for weekends and nights out because of ‘baby’? If so, then you were never going to be able to stay friends with women who wanted the very thing you had - you wouldn’t be the same person. I have been in your position. I fully expected to be dropped from our sad little group of barren friends - 6 cycles of IVF and many miscarriages to get my son but I got him and they didn’t. It’s just disingenuous to pretend your husband is walking the same path as you, he isn’t. Yes, he’s gonna be a dad. Is he going to get morning sickness, stretch marks, is he going to feel baby kicking inside him before anyone else can? Will he feel that excitement when his belly begins to pop and things start to feel real? Will he give birth, spend that first night together in hospital just staring at each other? Will he breastfeed? His true involvement in it isn’t even close and you know it.

joyjoyw · 10/08/2025 21:40

namechangeGOT · 10/08/2025 21:01

OP, let’s say that the couples who you were friends with continued on with nights out, weekends away, allll the things you did before you got pregnant would you have gone on them? Left baby at home to go away for weekends away with them, had nights out despite perhaps not being ready, been happy to leave baby talk at home every time you went out with them or met up for a coffee? Would that have been okay? Or would you have wanted to speak about baby? Refused invites for weekends and nights out because of ‘baby’? If so, then you were never going to be able to stay friends with women who wanted the very thing you had - you wouldn’t be the same person. I have been in your position. I fully expected to be dropped from our sad little group of barren friends - 6 cycles of IVF and many miscarriages to get my son but I got him and they didn’t. It’s just disingenuous to pretend your husband is walking the same path as you, he isn’t. Yes, he’s gonna be a dad. Is he going to get morning sickness, stretch marks, is he going to feel baby kicking inside him before anyone else can? Will he feel that excitement when his belly begins to pop and things start to feel real? Will he give birth, spend that first night together in hospital just staring at each other? Will he breastfeed? His true involvement in it isn’t even close and you know it.

I get friendships change when life changes. That is not the same as just cutting someone off without saying anything. I have friends at different stages of life to me and we have held onto the friendships.

I wish them well and I am happy to move on. They have now ousted someone else who is very distraught.

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thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 23:02

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JHound · 11/08/2025 00:50

joyjoyw · 10/08/2025 13:59

Yes they can do whatever they wish. They are free to keep kicking out women out of the group who get pregnant,

I already have moved on. I am not responding to the woman who got kicked out like me. I have newer friends who are great.

Your clearly haven’t moved on.

Anchorage56 · 11/08/2025 06:38

So what is the purpose of this thread if you say you have moved on and have newer better friends?

Hopefully at least you can now see there is a big difference between what it means when a woman gets pregnant compared to her husband, which could help you with part of the topic of the thread.

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 07:35

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I was responding to someone who asked me some questions.

If you think calling someone demented is a decent way to speak to people, that says more about you than it does about me. I feel sorry for the people in your life.

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joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 07:35

JHound · 11/08/2025 00:50

Your clearly haven’t moved on.

You don't know me so can't judge.

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applegingermint · 11/08/2025 07:41

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 07:35

You don't know me so can't judge.

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SophieJo · 11/08/2025 08:04

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I just thought the same. Her ex friends must count themselves very lucky.

Fimofriend · 11/08/2025 09:25

Adultautismdiagnosis · 09/08/2025 09:29

It's not being bitchy to distance yourself when you're in extreme pain. Main character syndrome has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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But they didn't distance themselves from OOP. They completely cut her off and that is not only rude, it is mean

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 09:32

Fimofriend · 11/08/2025 09:25

But they didn't distance themselves from OOP. They completely cut her off and that is not only rude, it is mean

Thank you.

People seem rather confused. Lots of inaccurate comments saying they are not surprised they distanced themselves from me. They cut me off due to my pregnancy. They have just done the same to someone else who is now distraught because she has lost all her friends.

It appears to be the case that women struggling to conceive get some sort of special pass regarding not so pleasant behaviour.

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MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 09:34

namechangeGOT · 10/08/2025 21:01

OP, let’s say that the couples who you were friends with continued on with nights out, weekends away, allll the things you did before you got pregnant would you have gone on them? Left baby at home to go away for weekends away with them, had nights out despite perhaps not being ready, been happy to leave baby talk at home every time you went out with them or met up for a coffee? Would that have been okay? Or would you have wanted to speak about baby? Refused invites for weekends and nights out because of ‘baby’? If so, then you were never going to be able to stay friends with women who wanted the very thing you had - you wouldn’t be the same person. I have been in your position. I fully expected to be dropped from our sad little group of barren friends - 6 cycles of IVF and many miscarriages to get my son but I got him and they didn’t. It’s just disingenuous to pretend your husband is walking the same path as you, he isn’t. Yes, he’s gonna be a dad. Is he going to get morning sickness, stretch marks, is he going to feel baby kicking inside him before anyone else can? Will he feel that excitement when his belly begins to pop and things start to feel real? Will he give birth, spend that first night together in hospital just staring at each other? Will he breastfeed? His true involvement in it isn’t even close and you know it.

I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation for people who have families. People who can’t have children cannot reasonably expect those who do to carry on like nothing happened to spare their feelings?

JHound · 11/08/2025 09:55

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 07:35

You don't know me so can't judge.

This thread is the evidence of you failing to move on.

JHound · 11/08/2025 09:56

MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 09:34

I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation for people who have families. People who can’t have children cannot reasonably expect those who do to carry on like nothing happened to spare their feelings?

I don’t think they do expect her to carry on like nothing happened. It’s why they have cut contact.

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 10:12

JHound · 11/08/2025 09:55

This thread is the evidence of you failing to move on.

Discussing something does not mean I have failed to move on. You don't know me so it is silly to make assumptions.

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joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 10:13

Great to see MNHQ deleting nasty posts!

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Blessthismess2 · 11/08/2025 10:18

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 09:32

Thank you.

People seem rather confused. Lots of inaccurate comments saying they are not surprised they distanced themselves from me. They cut me off due to my pregnancy. They have just done the same to someone else who is now distraught because she has lost all her friends.

It appears to be the case that women struggling to conceive get some sort of special pass regarding not so pleasant behaviour.

It appears to be the case that women struggling to conceive get some sort of special pass regarding not so pleasant behaviour.

🤯

TuMadreEsLoca · 11/08/2025 10:30

They just werent your friends in the first place. They are a group of people who are bonded by a common experience. They are not a friendship group. This much is clear.

namechangeGOT · 11/08/2025 11:36

MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 09:34

I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation for people who have families. People who can’t have children cannot reasonably expect those who do to carry on like nothing happened to spare their feelings?

Exactly! That’s my point! When I eventually had my child I couldn’t continue to be the friend that I was before. I couldn’t continue to provide the same support as I had before. Either the still childless friend has to put their feelings to one side or the new mum has to put their responsibilities to one side. It’s not the same friendship and it never would have been. Neither is in the wrong.

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 11:50

TuMadreEsLoca · 11/08/2025 10:30

They just werent your friends in the first place. They are a group of people who are bonded by a common experience. They are not a friendship group. This much is clear.

What constitutes a friendship? We went to each others homes, dinners, weekends away and met each other's families. We didn't just sit and talk about infertility all the time

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TuMadreEsLoca · 11/08/2025 12:00

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 11:50

What constitutes a friendship? We went to each others homes, dinners, weekends away and met each other's families. We didn't just sit and talk about infertility all the time

I dunno maybe not ditching you the minute you are no longer bound by said common experience?

thisistoofunny · 11/08/2025 13:51

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joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 13:58

Looks like MNHQ wanted to get your post away from everybody @thisistoofunny 😂

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Blessthismess2 · 11/08/2025 14:22

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 13:58

Looks like MNHQ wanted to get your post away from everybody @thisistoofunny 😂

You never answered my earlier question.

Has this thread made you reflect at all?

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 09:43

dairydebris · 09/08/2025 16:16

I think you're showing up how you really feel by saying those who can't bear to interact with you because you're pregnant and they are not are 'bitter and twisted'. Quite a surprising lack of empathy and grace towards those suffering great pain because of infertility.

I tried for 11 years….. 4 rounds of egg recovery and hundreds of internal scans and injections….
never, not once did I cut friends off when they got pregnant…
It is bitter/twisted/ jealous or whatever you want to call it…. To not be happy for others…
I don’t get it at all….. infertility is horrible and frankly I wouldn’t wish it on anyone - especially not a friend!…. Sorry but you have to be bitter to want everyone else to be infertile just to make you feel better.