To think my landlord is a spiteful dickhead

[3kiddosandme]

At this point im thinking my landlord is just a spiteful dickhead, I'll go into as much detail as possible here.
Earlier this year I was sent a section 21 notice out of nowhere, I questioned this and the landlord said because of significant damages to the property I have to leave. Now I have evidence that these significant damages are not my fault, I had the environmental health in because I was fed up of living in a shit hole basically, the whole house needs ripping out and fixing including floorboards and external doors according to the local council who did the inspection, the landlord also has to take up an asbestos survey due to damaged ceiling in the hallway.
I have 3 kids I the house, one is additional needs. I was offered a house by a housing association and I accepted, im yet to get the keys but the house was on major repair, I said this to the current landlord who said they were happy to let me wait it out, no repairs have done either by the current landlord as per the council report. They took me to court to evict me even though theyd said I could stay until my house was ready, ive never been behind on rent always paid in full and on time, a week ago the landlord turned up completely unannounced banging on the door I opened the door and I was told I should've moved out by now as the court stated the 25th july, I told them to get a warrant for eviction and come back with bailiffs, as of yet I haven't heard anything from the bailiffs. I emailed expressing that they didnt give any notice and they turned up with keys to let themselves in and since I haven't returned keys or made them aware that ive moved it was completely unacceptable. They stated that they sent a letter, they never did as ive still not recieved this magic letter they apparently sent. Anyway every single day they are emailing me asking for keys to be returned and I keep telling them I will return the keys once I have moved. At this point I just think they are being absolute dickheads. I hopefully should get the keys to the new property today.
Wibu to move and then throw they keys into their office in an envelope and leave without saying a word.

The people who do that would be really silly. Councils do check for rent arrears even if it is a section 21. Its just not worth the risk.

Ah, I’ve got the wrong end of the stick. You’re taking about people who want social housing, that’s what I meant by benefit people (bad turn of phrase). I didn’t rent to those types of people which is why I was surprised it was standard practice. Makes sense.

It is absolutely bonkers. but who benefits? not the landlord nor the tenants.
It wont change - the legal system have got it all tied up - costing £1,000s

Councils benefit. They get more time before the are required to house to the folks who end up with them.

They also end up not having to house some people that they should because they class anyone who is bullied or intimidated into leaving as being intentionally homeless.

They also benefit (sometimes briefly) when people end up taking a property they can't afford or one from a scum slum landlord just to escape the uncertainty.

It's a ridiculous system.

Why are you making things up?

Poor comprehension?

Benefit people? What a phrase…

Quite.

Sub human maybe. Disgusting.

'Those types'?

This is why private landlords have a bad rep

Ah, I’ve got the wrong end of the stick. You’re taking about people who want social housing, that’s what I meant by benefit people (bad turn of phrase). I didn’t rent to those types of people which is why I was surprised it was standard practice. Makes sense.

I'm talking about people who end up needing social housing, which in the current climate isn't remotely just people on benefits

It wasn't a bad turn of phrase, it was a vile turn of phrase, but at least showed your attitude clear as day.

Not all, there was a decent landlord on here a few pages back. This character though, pretty repulsive.

Yes it came off bad, I meant irresponsible people you can’t trust to fulfill their side of obligations. I wouldn’t class myself as a private landlord really, it was just one flat when working abroad in different places for years at a time.

The myriad insults from someone like you.

Do you need a bigger spade @ByMerryDeer ?

@ByMerryDeer you suggest OP “just rents somewhere else”
as per my pp that isn’t always a simple or affordable option for anyone.

I didn’t rent to those types of people

I’m almost lost for words here. All sorts of people can end up qualifying for social housing. Everyone I know who’s got HA or council homes has been employed, in professional jobs with degrees. I know more homeowners with criminal convictions to be honest. What a horrible phrase to use.

Yes it came off bad, I meant irresponsible people you can’t trust to fulfill their side of obligations. I wouldn’t class myself as a private landlord really, it was just one flat when working abroad in different places for years at a time.

You were private landlord if you rented a property. People not considering themselves actual landlords is actually a huge part of the issue with rentals.

Irresponsible people come from all walks of lives, and actually people on benefits long term (for reason of being unable to work due to disability or caring responsibilities for example) are often a better bet as tenants because their situation is less likely to change than someone who gets sacked from work or gets made redundant.

Only tenant I've ever had to evict was the highest earning tenant I've ever had.

And the biggest issue is landlords like the OP's

Regardless of the OP's decision to go through the full process of legal eviction he has no right to turn up banging on the door. No right to let themselves in with keys.

And has no right to be renting out a property in such a poor state of repair as the photos the OP posted.

Shitty landlords like that cause problems for everyone, and diversions onto the rights and wrongs of the eviction process end up taking attention away from the issues with slum landlords.

what a hateful nasty string of replies you've made. Do you kick puppies as a hobby?

What a nasty response! Are you always this horrible? Ops LL only evicted her after she reported him to environmental health & he has to carry out repairs to the property. She has managed to get social housing so has not just been sitting moaning & not doing anything! It’s not always just as easy as finding a new rental & moving! Maybe theres been nothing suitable in her area that she can afford? Has kids in school & a job that means she can’t just relocate miles away?

OP hope you got your keys today or get them asap & enjoy your new home with no slum landlord to deal with!

Not when its the only way the council will house you it isn't. Shelter advise to remain for bailiff action.

Because affordable housing when you're a single mum of three kids is so easily come by. Which is presumably why she put up with the slum property as long as she did.

I know though - she's just being lazy not being on a £200K salary like the right sort of hard-working MNers.

They can’t immediately instruct bayliffs without it going back to court

I would imagine you haven’t heard anything further OP because there are long wait times in most areas for these cases
However
When the landlord gets permission for an eviction you will be given two weeks to move by the bayliffs.

Im afraid there’s nothing you can do about that

Suggest you get a solicitor to write to your landlord in the meantime with a cease and desist letter to put a stop to his harassment

Courts always grant s21 as long as procedure is followed. That’s legal procedure and has nothing to do with the condition of a property

I still blame the legal set up - its cumbersome, deliberately confusing and intentionally requires a £300 per hour solicitor. And the same people benefit when the new system comes in.

So ive been in touch with the lettings officer from the housing association this afternoon, he believes that the final inspection has been done for the property that im waiting for this morning or afternoon as contractors have now said theyve finished, however the relevant person he needs to speak to had gone home for the weekend by the time i spoke to him, hes told me that he expects it to be ready to let monday morning and will be chasing it first thing, so fingers crossed that on monday I will have the keys to the new house

I agree that is alternative
However you are assuming that the landlord has an alternative empty property

He is also under no obligation to do this either
His only recourse given the potential for asbestos and it looks like movement ( possibly underpinning needed ) is to issue a s21. He could, of course, have offered that the tenant would get first dibs when the property is completed. He is under no obligation to do this either of course

What he shouldn’t be going is hassling the tenant now
If he wants the property back he needs to action an eviction process

We will be in a smiliar situation. We have received a s21 no fault eviction because I believe the landlord is selling up. We have until February, but I can almost guarantee we will be staying until the bailiffs come whether the landlord likes it or not. We are looking multiple times a day and applying for every single appropriate home that comes on the rental market. But we literally have to APPLY via a form just to be in with a chance of viewing a house. There are 70 or more people looking at each (rare!) House that comes in the market, so while we would ideally ly want to move ASAP (as our house is also very poor, not our fault!), we are likely ended up going down the council route. If we leave the house before bailiffs literally come, we would have made ourselves 'intentionally homeless' and the council would not help. Staying there until the last minute is literally what you HAVE to do if you need help getting a new home...

And no, we dont rely on benefits. My husband works full time, and we are still struggling to find a private rental.

I think they are doing it on purpose.