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To think my landlord is a spiteful dickhead

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 09:21

At this point im thinking my landlord is just a spiteful dickhead, I'll go into as much detail as possible here.
Earlier this year I was sent a section 21 notice out of nowhere, I questioned this and the landlord said because of significant damages to the property I have to leave. Now I have evidence that these significant damages are not my fault, I had the environmental health in because I was fed up of living in a shit hole basically, the whole house needs ripping out and fixing including floorboards and external doors according to the local council who did the inspection, the landlord also has to take up an asbestos survey due to damaged ceiling in the hallway.
I have 3 kids I the house, one is additional needs. I was offered a house by a housing association and I accepted, im yet to get the keys but the house was on major repair, I said this to the current landlord who said they were happy to let me wait it out, no repairs have done either by the current landlord as per the council report. They took me to court to evict me even though theyd said I could stay until my house was ready, ive never been behind on rent always paid in full and on time, a week ago the landlord turned up completely unannounced banging on the door I opened the door and I was told I should've moved out by now as the court stated the 25th july, I told them to get a warrant for eviction and come back with bailiffs, as of yet I haven't heard anything from the bailiffs. I emailed expressing that they didnt give any notice and they turned up with keys to let themselves in and since I haven't returned keys or made them aware that ive moved it was completely unacceptable. They stated that they sent a letter, they never did as ive still not recieved this magic letter they apparently sent. Anyway every single day they are emailing me asking for keys to be returned and I keep telling them I will return the keys once I have moved. At this point I just think they are being absolute dickheads. I hopefully should get the keys to the new property today.
Wibu to move and then throw they keys into their office in an envelope and leave without saying a word.

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AlertCat · 08/08/2025 13:32

@Ireallywantadoughnut36 absolutely, this is an issue with its roots in the bizarre ban on councils replacing their housing stock when Right to Buy came in (if anyone can explain that I’d be interested to know what the rationale was) and governments for 40 years have failed to do anything useful to sort it out. (A bit like social care 🤐)

SloppyThePoodle · 08/08/2025 13:34

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 13:01

When I first moved in here everything was freshly painted,.although a little rough around the edges so to speak so I thought I could decorate and make it nicer, which i spent hundreds on doing, with one child being additional needs and the other 2 being really young (youngest was just 2 weeks old when I moved in here, shes now almost 4) I try and keep on top of touching up paint etc as it is needed every few months or so, I put down new carpets in bedrooms because they were getting worn, I have done everything I possibly can to look after the house, the disrepair issues are not my issue to fix

Of course you have, and you're right, the landlord should be maintaining the property. I hope it all works out and your new place becomes available soon. I agree with other posters who say to stay until the bailiffs come.

I was replying to the poster who, for some reason, doesn't think the government should look after their citizens. Which is literally their job!

HairsprayBabe · 08/08/2025 13:34

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 13:35

Outside9 · 08/08/2025 13:25

YABU.

You're complaining about conditions of the property, while making your exit difficult.

Cognitive dissonance.

Im not making it difficult, I was looking to move before all this but as soon as you mention additional needs child to landlords/letting agents i found they then say the property is already being let to someone else the same day you try and apply,.I was offered the house by the housing association but they haven't completed their major refurbishment yet, although I was updated on wednesday that it should hopefully be ready today, I pay the rent while im.still here I haven't stopped paying it, i still pay my bills and I still keep the property clean, its not as if ive gone well f you im not paying, I dont particularly have any savings left as I put so much money into this house trying to make it somewhere nice to live as when I moved here it was because my relationship with the kids father broke down I basically live on my weekly wage and tax credits the dla payment I get for my additional needs child goes into his savings account unless he really needs something like clothes or shoes because that's his money and doesnt belong to me to use as I want. I physically can not do anything more than ive already done

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AlertCat · 08/08/2025 13:35

Whistlingformysupper · 08/08/2025 13:30

OP should have looked for a short term let to bridge the gap the between moving out of this property and getting the keys to her new one

That's just what you have to do when timelines shift and you have to move out before your next place is ready.

That's what people end up doing if they haven't found a new rental in time.

People do have to take responsibility for themselves it isn't the council or the landlords responsibility to sort out OP's situation she has to sort it out herself.

Short term lets are available

But they’re very expensive. They’re also not guaranteed to be available. It’s summer so very possible that short term lets are unavailable due to tourism etc. Even if they were available, the HB component of UC doesn’t cover normal rent, let alone the premium rates in short term.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 13:36

Moana987 · 08/08/2025 12:29

They could just move out then if they would like to avoid it....

If you think its that simple theres no point in me trying to explain.

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 13:36

Luckyingame · 08/08/2025 13:17

The previous post in the quote is one of the reasons why my husband and myself sold off our rental properties.
Nothing else to say.

@spies There is no scenario in which a landlord wouldn't be granted possession after a section 21 notice. It is a no fault eviction, courts must grant it as long as correct procedure has been followed (correct documents issued etc). There aren't 'two sides'. The fact it is granted isn't evidence of fault or wrongdoing on the tenants part.

Bluebellwood129 · 08/08/2025 13:38

ThatOpenSwan · 08/08/2025 11:21

Yeah he's completely awful and it's outrageous that people are defending him. People like him should be banned from being landlords (and have the extra property they're hoarding requisitioned to provide council housing tbh).

Landlords are not 'hoarding' property, they're running a business. If local councils want to buy properties to increase social housing stock, they're free to do so.

HairsprayBabe · 08/08/2025 13:39

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thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 08/08/2025 13:40

Outside9 · 08/08/2025 13:25

YABU.

You're complaining about conditions of the property, while making your exit difficult.

Cognitive dissonance.

Not cognitive dissonance, a rock and a hard place for both her and the landlord.

TheCurious0range · 08/08/2025 13:40

Regardless of the condition of the property you are leaving because the HA has provided you with something, it's not the landlord's responsibility to contribute to house you because they are running over. What if he had new tenants waiting to move in? What if he wants to sell and get rid of the place? You've lived there a long time if it was that bad move.

PollyBell · 08/08/2025 13:43

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The landlord is not a charity next you will be saying they should be able to live their rent free and for 50 without the landlord selling if not the landlord is every name under the sun

HairsprayBabe · 08/08/2025 13:45

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Bluebellwood129 · 08/08/2025 13:46

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It's a business - get a grip. Landlords that are complying with all legal requirements are providing a service.

messybutfun · 08/08/2025 13:47

Courts don’t normally grant an eviction order if a house is in such disrepair that even the council has issued a notice to the landlord.

Flora73 · 08/08/2025 13:47

Swiftie1878 · 08/08/2025 11:08

You’ve trashed his house and won’t move out (despite a court order to do so), but HE’S the spiteful dickhead? I don’t think so.

Give it a rest!! How did the OP suggest she had trashed it? The landlord is at fault here for expecting her to live in a shithole and taking the money for it.

@Lavender14 You will get lots of these posts on here. Talking about landlords and renting is a devisive topic.

ForeverPombear · 08/08/2025 13:48

Bluebellwood129 · 08/08/2025 13:46

It's a business - get a grip. Landlords that are complying with all legal requirements are providing a service.

Well this one obviously hasn't with all the issues there are

SoSoLong · 08/08/2025 13:49

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 13:09

I mean as I said i told them the house was under major repair and the estimated date was the middle of july for completion they said that's fine, they took it to court at the end of june knowing that I couldn't leave ive always told them if there's a issue with the other property being ready, i told them it was delayed and now im being constantly asked on a daily basis for the keys to be returned

They took you to court as a precaution, since they couldn't be sure you would be out by mid-July. And they were right, it's August now and you're still there. I appreciate you're in an impossible situation and I understand why you won't vacate the property, but I also understand why the landlord wants you out by the date ordered by the court, and that doesn't make them a spiteful dickhead.

HairsprayBabe · 08/08/2025 13:49

@Bluebellwood129 there are plenty of "legal" things that exist - doesn't mean they should exist.

Landlords should not exist because housing should not be for profit. Housing should be a guaranteed right for everyone.

Landlords are greedy and morally bankrupt.

Bluebellwood129 · 08/08/2025 13:52

HairsprayBabe · 08/08/2025 13:49

@Bluebellwood129 there are plenty of "legal" things that exist - doesn't mean they should exist.

Landlords should not exist because housing should not be for profit. Housing should be a guaranteed right for everyone.

Landlords are greedy and morally bankrupt.

Well there's a suggestion - instead of all the whingeing and frothing on here, why not go and do something useful like campaign for change. In the meantime, those that have spare bedrooms can offer them for free to those that want to leave private rentals.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 08/08/2025 13:56

He's a private landlord. He's complying with the law. However tough you may find it, he isn't responsible for finding you a new home.

HairsprayBabe · 08/08/2025 13:58

@Bluebellwood129 I do actually but thanks for the suggestion, maybe you should try something constructive too rather than defending greedy, lazy, good for nothing landlords in you spare time?

Unless you are one? Oink oink.

Frequency · 08/08/2025 14:09

Do people understand how it works when the bailiffs turn up?

They don't rock up with a moving van, after a week's notice and help you move your shit. They turn up unannounced, usually early in the morning, and give you an hour or less to gather only what you need for a few days. The rest of your stuff is then locked in the house, and the locks are changed, and the LL is given the keys back. The former tenant then has to arrange storage and removal of their belongings, which is exorbitantly expensive.

Why on earth would anyone willingly subject themselves to that?

OP is doing the only thing she can do. If the LL could not afford to instruct bailiffs, he should have thought about that before letting out his shitty property. OP is the one following the law.

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 14:10

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:29

She doesn’t have anywhere else to go…

And all the councils round my way tell people not to move until bailiffs have an eviction warrant and not before the date the bailiffs say they will do it.

At least two of them tell tenants that if they leave before that date, they could be deemed intentionally homeless and lose their right to be rehoused, although I've never known them actually do that.

Peach27 · 08/08/2025 14:12

I really don’t understand the vitriol you’ve been getting! If you leave before the bailiffs the council will deem as intentionally making yourself homeless and not help. You’ve had to live in appalling conditions due to the neglect of the landlord who is a proper slum landlord. You’re doing the right thing and I really do hope this new property is a brilliant new start for you and your children