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To think my landlord is a spiteful dickhead

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 09:21

At this point im thinking my landlord is just a spiteful dickhead, I'll go into as much detail as possible here.
Earlier this year I was sent a section 21 notice out of nowhere, I questioned this and the landlord said because of significant damages to the property I have to leave. Now I have evidence that these significant damages are not my fault, I had the environmental health in because I was fed up of living in a shit hole basically, the whole house needs ripping out and fixing including floorboards and external doors according to the local council who did the inspection, the landlord also has to take up an asbestos survey due to damaged ceiling in the hallway.
I have 3 kids I the house, one is additional needs. I was offered a house by a housing association and I accepted, im yet to get the keys but the house was on major repair, I said this to the current landlord who said they were happy to let me wait it out, no repairs have done either by the current landlord as per the council report. They took me to court to evict me even though theyd said I could stay until my house was ready, ive never been behind on rent always paid in full and on time, a week ago the landlord turned up completely unannounced banging on the door I opened the door and I was told I should've moved out by now as the court stated the 25th july, I told them to get a warrant for eviction and come back with bailiffs, as of yet I haven't heard anything from the bailiffs. I emailed expressing that they didnt give any notice and they turned up with keys to let themselves in and since I haven't returned keys or made them aware that ive moved it was completely unacceptable. They stated that they sent a letter, they never did as ive still not recieved this magic letter they apparently sent. Anyway every single day they are emailing me asking for keys to be returned and I keep telling them I will return the keys once I have moved. At this point I just think they are being absolute dickheads. I hopefully should get the keys to the new property today.
Wibu to move and then throw they keys into their office in an envelope and leave without saying a word.

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AnonymousBleep · 08/08/2025 14:59

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 14:44

I haven't failed, my kids dad although is a.very good dad doesnt live with us our relationship broke down when the youngest was just 2 weeks old, we both moved out of the house we shared and he lives now in a 1 bedroom place and visits the kids every single day after work without fail, there's never any excuses from him and we actually get on alot better now than we did back then. Unfortunately due to him having his own rent to pay and bills hes not in a position to help fund a new property but if he could he would without a doubt.

You don't need to dignify bitchy posts attacking you for 'failing' as a parent with any kind of response. The state of your house is disgraceful and your landlord is the one in the wrong, not you. MN currently seems to be chock-full of of spiteful twats who love nothing more than tearing people down.

Skybluepinky · 08/08/2025 15:00

You were told by court to move out but are still there there is a dickhead and it’s not your landlord.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 08/08/2025 15:01

I'm an ex landlord and I think the landlord is in the wrong not the OP. The house has not been properly maintained. The landlord has been harassing the tenant which is a criminal offence. The proper procedure to rvict is for the Landlord to instruct bailiffs to rvict the tenant as per the court order. They have not done so. It is idiot landlords like this that give landlords a bad name.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 15:02

Skybluepinky · 08/08/2025 15:00

You were told by court to move out but are still there there is a dickhead and it’s not your landlord.

Yes it’s straight forward, Why even stay so long in the first place when it’s a dump anyway

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:21

Crochetandtea · 08/08/2025 14:38

There is no way to know exactly what has happened because we are only hearing your side of the story .
You should have left the house on the 25th July . It’s not your house and you and the children’s father are responsible for housing your own family. Are you not disappointed that you have failed to give your three children a safe roof over their heads ?

And you where do you suggest they should have moved to?

The OP is following the advice that any housing adviser or homelessness prevention worker would have given.

Horserider5678 · 08/08/2025 15:23

Wowthatwasabigstep · 08/08/2025 11:00

It will be so much easier for the landlord to do the repairs when you and your children are not there so I completely understand why they are not doing any whilst you are still living there.

It is the landlords property and they probably have a mortgage to service every month, refurbishment costs, legislation to comply with and then tax on the eventual income left over.

You have an alternative place to go to, why not focus your energies on chasing the housing association and getting into the new place as quickly as possible rather than antagonising your old landlord.

It’s not OP’s problem regarding the any mortgage he may have! She was advised to stay put by the council until her new property was ready and is not behind on her rent! Landlord should have contingency funds rather than rely on rent to pay his mortgage (no one knows if he has one). Judging by the photos he’s looks like your typical slum landlord!

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 15:27

Skybluepinky · 08/08/2025 15:00

You were told by court to move out but are still there there is a dickhead and it’s not your landlord.

Actually, she will have been told by the court that if she hadn't left by that date then bailiffs would be appointed. Not quite the same thing.

Every landlord should budget (in time and finances) for needing the full legal process for ending a tenancy - which this is - as standard.

It's been standard for at least the last decade that people going into social housing had to go through the full legal tenancy ending process so any landlord not aware of it or expecting it only has themselves to blame.

Every decent landlord I know basically expects to have to go through that process and it's a bonus if they leave earlier than they legally have to. It's something I've budgeted for with every tenant I've had.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 15:36

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 15:27

Actually, she will have been told by the court that if she hadn't left by that date then bailiffs would be appointed. Not quite the same thing.

Every landlord should budget (in time and finances) for needing the full legal process for ending a tenancy - which this is - as standard.

It's been standard for at least the last decade that people going into social housing had to go through the full legal tenancy ending process so any landlord not aware of it or expecting it only has themselves to blame.

Every decent landlord I know basically expects to have to go through that process and it's a bonus if they leave earlier than they legally have to. It's something I've budgeted for with every tenant I've had.

100% both my landlords knew I had to do this . It was just seen as part and parcel.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 15:36

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 15:27

Actually, she will have been told by the court that if she hadn't left by that date then bailiffs would be appointed. Not quite the same thing.

Every landlord should budget (in time and finances) for needing the full legal process for ending a tenancy - which this is - as standard.

It's been standard for at least the last decade that people going into social housing had to go through the full legal tenancy ending process so any landlord not aware of it or expecting it only has themselves to blame.

Every decent landlord I know basically expects to have to go through that process and it's a bonus if they leave earlier than they legally have to. It's something I've budgeted for with every tenant I've had.

Is that true? What a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:38

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:20

Only if you’re made legally homeless. That only happens once the bayliffs move in to evict you. That’s not at the end date of the s21. It’s a further process

I don't understand why some posters appear to be incapable of grasping this.

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:40

Swiftie1878 · 08/08/2025 12:45

The court will have taken housing availability into account when setting the date.
She’s made no effort to comply, yet he’s the spiteful dickhead.

If the courts took the availability of housing into account, they'd never set a date, at least not in this part of the SE.

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:47

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 08/08/2025 13:09

The Housing Officer will have told the Op she had to stay until either she got the keys to her new home or the Bailiffs turned up.

@3kiddosandme Are you due the return of a deposit ?

Congratulations on getting a social housing property, it is taking years in South Devon.

It's so bad in most parts of Sussex (and some parts of Kent) that councils are leasing private rented properties from landlords for 3-year terms. They then use them as temp accommodation for homeless families. One family I know was in such a property for 5 years before they got a council place. (And that was actually a bit of a fluke: they got the property they moved to under "local connection" rules, as it was in the village they'd been living in for 5 years!)

It's an expensive way of doing things, but nowhere near as expensive as keeping homeless families in B&Bs.

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 15:55

I've also added 5 pages from the environmental health report to give context, the actual full report is around 9/10 pages long

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ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:00

Is that true? What a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved

Which bit do you think is untrue?

That's the legal process for a landlord wishing to end a tenancy. Often tenants leave after the S21, because they have somewhere else to go, which ends the tenancy by agreement.

To end the legal agreement you have to go through a legal process. Every landlord who rents a property should be fully aware of the process legally required from them to end a tenancy, and given that it is very well known that to obtain social housing people have no choice but to see the process through they should be expecting to go to the full point of the process.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:03

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:00

Is that true? What a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved

Which bit do you think is untrue?

That's the legal process for a landlord wishing to end a tenancy. Often tenants leave after the S21, because they have somewhere else to go, which ends the tenancy by agreement.

To end the legal agreement you have to go through a legal process. Every landlord who rents a property should be fully aware of the process legally required from them to end a tenancy, and given that it is very well known that to obtain social housing people have no choice but to see the process through they should be expecting to go to the full point of the process.

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:06

I don't understand why some posters appear to be incapable of grasping this.

People are so bad at grasping that tenancies require a legal process to end them.

I ended up having to explain it to someone (a so-called accidental landlord) along the basis of marriage and divorce - S21 = I'm leaving you. Court date = decree nisi. Baliffs = Absolute.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:08

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

Standard on the landlord forum I use. Also advised in the local landlord advice group.

It's standard practise for LA's to demand from people looking for housing so it's downright stupidity for landlords not to also factor it into their plans as standard.

It should be seen as a bonus if the tenant leaves without requiring that part of the legal process.

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 16:11

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:08

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

Standard on the landlord forum I use. Also advised in the local landlord advice group.

It's standard practise for LA's to demand from people looking for housing so it's downright stupidity for landlords not to also factor it into their plans as standard.

It should be seen as a bonus if the tenant leaves without requiring that part of the legal process.

Many people also stop paying their rent after the section 21 which i didn't do, although I was incredibly pissed off I still paid because I dont want them turning around and saying well now we can claim back money because you didnt pay the rent for the length of the tenancy and since im still living here I am technically still a tenant until the day I leave

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Iwanttoliveonamountain · 08/08/2025 16:12

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:03

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

It is absolutely bonkers. but who benefits? not the landlord nor the tenants.
It wont change - the legal system have got it all tied up - costing £1,000s

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:25

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:06

I don't understand why some posters appear to be incapable of grasping this.

People are so bad at grasping that tenancies require a legal process to end them.

I ended up having to explain it to someone (a so-called accidental landlord) along the basis of marriage and divorce - S21 = I'm leaving you. Court date = decree nisi. Baliffs = Absolute.

I’ve rented a flat out several tines in London when working abroad, think I’ve had 7 tenancies and I’ve never had to take legal action of any kind. Although not in the last 5 years. Are we just taking about benefit people here or are you including regular renters who pay through employment?

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 16:29

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 08/08/2025 16:12

It is absolutely bonkers. but who benefits? not the landlord nor the tenants.
It wont change - the legal system have got it all tied up - costing £1,000s

The coincil benefits it means they buy more time before they have to help the tenant.

AnonymousBleep · 08/08/2025 16:31

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 15:02

Yes it’s straight forward, Why even stay so long in the first place when it’s a dump anyway

Yeah she could easily have just moved into a tent on the roadside with her three kids and intentionally made herself homeless, ensuring her landlord would be free to rent out his health hazard of a dump to someone else without having to fix any of the problems. What a selfish cow!

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:32

I’ve rented a flat out several tines in London when working abroad, think I’ve had 7 tenancies and I’ve never had to take legal action of any kind. Although not in the last 5 years. Are we just taking about benefit people here or are you including regular renters who pay through employment?

Benefit people? What a phrase...

How many times have you asked tenants to leave?

The only tenant I've ever had to evict was a chap who had a job when he took on the flat, so what you'd call a regular renter.

Standard round here for LL's to keep it in kind because the LA here, and the next one along, will consider people intentionally homeless if they leave before the bailiffs arrive.

LA after that will consider you homeless after it's been to court, but before bailiffs.

It's not just "benefit people" that end up needing to present as homeless when the landlord decides to move them on.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:33

AnonymousBleep · 08/08/2025 16:31

Yeah she could easily have just moved into a tent on the roadside with her three kids and intentionally made herself homeless, ensuring her landlord would be free to rent out his health hazard of a dump to someone else without having to fix any of the problems. What a selfish cow!

Or something less dramatic like renting somewhere else.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:33

*Keep it in mind