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To think my landlord is a spiteful dickhead

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 09:21

At this point im thinking my landlord is just a spiteful dickhead, I'll go into as much detail as possible here.
Earlier this year I was sent a section 21 notice out of nowhere, I questioned this and the landlord said because of significant damages to the property I have to leave. Now I have evidence that these significant damages are not my fault, I had the environmental health in because I was fed up of living in a shit hole basically, the whole house needs ripping out and fixing including floorboards and external doors according to the local council who did the inspection, the landlord also has to take up an asbestos survey due to damaged ceiling in the hallway.
I have 3 kids I the house, one is additional needs. I was offered a house by a housing association and I accepted, im yet to get the keys but the house was on major repair, I said this to the current landlord who said they were happy to let me wait it out, no repairs have done either by the current landlord as per the council report. They took me to court to evict me even though theyd said I could stay until my house was ready, ive never been behind on rent always paid in full and on time, a week ago the landlord turned up completely unannounced banging on the door I opened the door and I was told I should've moved out by now as the court stated the 25th july, I told them to get a warrant for eviction and come back with bailiffs, as of yet I haven't heard anything from the bailiffs. I emailed expressing that they didnt give any notice and they turned up with keys to let themselves in and since I haven't returned keys or made them aware that ive moved it was completely unacceptable. They stated that they sent a letter, they never did as ive still not recieved this magic letter they apparently sent. Anyway every single day they are emailing me asking for keys to be returned and I keep telling them I will return the keys once I have moved. At this point I just think they are being absolute dickheads. I hopefully should get the keys to the new property today.
Wibu to move and then throw they keys into their office in an envelope and leave without saying a word.

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DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:25

ThatOpenSwan · 08/08/2025 11:21

Yeah he's completely awful and it's outrageous that people are defending him. People like him should be banned from being landlords (and have the extra property they're hoarding requisitioned to provide council housing tbh).

Why do you know him personally or are you only believing one version of events.

TurraeaFloribunda · 08/08/2025 11:26

If environmental health issued an improvement notice and the landlord hasn’t done the repairs, have you reported that to environmental health? They can prosecute him or do the work and charge him.

When was the order issued? You can’t serve a Section 21 order until 6 months after an improvement notice from the council.

You should have gone to court to fight the eviction. He is clearly a dickhead but you are partly responsible for going about this the wrong way. If you have the keys to your new house today, move out today and return the keys. Tell him exactly when you will return his keys. He may try to recover his costs if he has to use bailiffs.

TBH, he is a slum landlord so he deserves everything he gets. Call environmental health today (they can’t do anything once your tenancy ends) and report him for not doing the required works. That will be a far better revenge.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 11:27

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 10:56

Staying for bailiffs absolutely isn't unreasonable.

Anyone who has been a landlord in the last 10 years (I am one) is, or should be, well aware of their local authorities policy on housing people evicted from private renting. Going through the full legal eviction process with tenants is something landlords should be prepared for as it's a necessity for many tenants.

And in the OP's case if the landlord hadn't been one of the scum slum landlords she wouldn't have needed to be rehoused after the environmental health visit anyway as they'd have done proper repairs!

The more of the shit landlords like the OPs that sell up the better.

Totally agree with you . I went through 2 evictions one of my landlords was a general arse. The other was nice. But regardless both landlords knew i had to go eviction route. And they were both absolutely fine with it. Its just part and parcel of being a lsndlord now and if it doesnt need to go eviction route that's a bonus. But I can understand why a LL may be pissed off i get it. But its the system not the tenant. No one want wants to go eviction route

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:27

While he does sound like a shitty landlord who you will be well rid of, I can understand his frustration that you haven’t left his properly yet

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:29

Swiftie1878 · 08/08/2025 11:20

We don’t and we certainly won’t get the truth from this OP.
Either way, she should have moved out as directed by the court.

She doesn’t have anywhere else to go…

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 11:30

TurraeaFloribunda · 08/08/2025 11:26

If environmental health issued an improvement notice and the landlord hasn’t done the repairs, have you reported that to environmental health? They can prosecute him or do the work and charge him.

When was the order issued? You can’t serve a Section 21 order until 6 months after an improvement notice from the council.

You should have gone to court to fight the eviction. He is clearly a dickhead but you are partly responsible for going about this the wrong way. If you have the keys to your new house today, move out today and return the keys. Tell him exactly when you will return his keys. He may try to recover his costs if he has to use bailiffs.

TBH, he is a slum landlord so he deserves everything he gets. Call environmental health today (they can’t do anything once your tenancy ends) and report him for not doing the required works. That will be a far better revenge.

Agree it would come under revenge eviction.
But in op case if she has beren offered housing association which gives her much more security. So there was probably no point in op fighting it.

ThejoyofNC · 08/08/2025 11:33

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:29

She doesn’t have anywhere else to go…

That's not the landlords problem. She can't stay there.

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:34

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:29

She doesn’t have anywhere else to go…

So why is that the landlords responsibility, she knew the date and had ample time to arrange new accommodation or an alternative place to stay.

jen337 · 08/08/2025 11:35

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 08/08/2025 10:51

this is the reason so many landlords are selling up. Staying for bailiffs is absolutely unreasonable,

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Good, we need less of the parasites

MemorableTrenchcoat · 08/08/2025 11:35

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 08/08/2025 10:51

this is the reason so many landlords are selling up. Staying for bailiffs is absolutely unreasonable,

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No, it's not, don't talk rubbish. For example, if you don't do this you won't qualify for social housing.

ThisMintGoose · 08/08/2025 11:39

A lot of landlords in here. Ignore them.

Boomboomboomboom · 08/08/2025 11:39

Staying for the bailiffs is not unreasonable and a landlord cannot evict before then- your tenancy even technically continues until the day the bailiffs take possession or you give up possession.

Landlords should always factor in not getting possession until a bailiff executes a warrant because that is the law.

Sounds like you had good reason to stay.

I wouldn't chuck keys at them but I'd think about doing it too!

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 11:40

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 11:30

Agree it would come under revenge eviction.
But in op case if she has beren offered housing association which gives her much more security. So there was probably no point in op fighting it.

id had no issues with the landlord or inspections previously everything was fine, last year they installed a new heating system, I asked for the wall where the old boiler was to be fixed as they left it bare brick, was told this would be done, a year later its still the same, from the new heating system being installed they started doing i.spections every month and every month it was this needs doing that needs doing, I spent hundreds redecorating but all the wallpaper started coming off due to the walla being wet and the paint wasnt looking great either so I tried to fix it then a month later it was im happy with what you've done then a.month after that it was another inspection and then it was this needs repainting that needs doing, after a whole year of monthly inspections I got fed up and told them that it was too much, thats when I got the environmental health in to inspect, then while they were putting reports together it took 2 months for them.to do this I got a section 21, so the report wasnt finalised before the section 21 was issued which was issued the day after I paid my rent but the council had it on system that an inspection by them had been done before the section 21

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goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 11:41

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 08/08/2025 10:51

this is the reason so many landlords are selling up. Staying for bailiffs is absolutely unreasonable,

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It might be unreasonable, but in this climate people often have no choice. Councils won't help house you if you leave before bailiffs arrive.

35965a · 08/08/2025 11:44

Some of these replies are nuts. It’s completely normal to stay until the bailiffs take possession. OP would be a fool to leave before then if her new accommodation isn’t ready.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 11:44

JustBiscoff · 08/08/2025 11:24

I’m astounded at some of the replies. Are people truly suggesting that OP should make themselves and their three children homeless, to convenience a landlord who has seemingly neglected the property?

The AIBU forum can be truly heartless, but this honestly takes the piss. How many of those responses are from people on ridiculous £200k + salaries, living comfortably in their 5+ bed detached houses, I wonder?

OP is rightly putting her family’s safety first. If they have no other accommodation to move in before the new house is ready, I’m not sure what alternative they gave.

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Some posters dont understand the eviction route or why it often has to happen . Or the law surrounding it. Or the social housing side of it. And dismissing or blaming op for dis repair suits their agenda so they can just post for the sake of a dig at op.

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:46

ThejoyofNC · 08/08/2025 11:33

That's not the landlords problem. She can't stay there.

I believe legally that she can until the bailiffs come

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 11:46

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:34

So why is that the landlords responsibility, she knew the date and had ample time to arrange new accommodation or an alternative place to stay.

That isn't how evictions work unfortunately. A section 21 is a request to vacate the property, no more or less.

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:47

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:34

So why is that the landlords responsibility, she knew the date and had ample time to arrange new accommodation or an alternative place to stay.

Legally she can stay until the bailiffs move in. It isn’t OP’s fault that the repairs haven’t been done and properly not maintained correctly by the landlord…

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:51

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 11:46

That isn't how evictions work unfortunately. A section 21 is a request to vacate the property, no more or less.

She might be getting off on a technicality and abusing the system, but that does not dismiss that she has to take personal responsibility for her own actions and her family. She had a date provided, so bloody well get a grip get some self respect and self ownership and sort out some where else to live.

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:52

Livpool · 08/08/2025 11:47

Legally she can stay until the bailiffs move in. It isn’t OP’s fault that the repairs haven’t been done and properly not maintained correctly by the landlord…

But she chose to stay there, its called self responsibility if its not right move.

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QuarkQuarkPoshDuck · 08/08/2025 11:53

Spies · 08/08/2025 10:55

If the court gave you a date why would you not move out? You can't just stay there indefinitely until the other house is ready.

Because the OP had no where to go and the council won't offer emergency accommodation unless the bailiffs are at the door enforcing the court eviction.

The OP did the correct thing staying put and continuing to pay their rent.

If the OP had moved out pn the court date then the council could have stated they'd made themselves intentionally homeless and the OP would have then had to find temporary accommodation themselves which would be a nightmare.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 11:54

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 11:40

id had no issues with the landlord or inspections previously everything was fine, last year they installed a new heating system, I asked for the wall where the old boiler was to be fixed as they left it bare brick, was told this would be done, a year later its still the same, from the new heating system being installed they started doing i.spections every month and every month it was this needs doing that needs doing, I spent hundreds redecorating but all the wallpaper started coming off due to the walla being wet and the paint wasnt looking great either so I tried to fix it then a month later it was im happy with what you've done then a.month after that it was another inspection and then it was this needs repainting that needs doing, after a whole year of monthly inspections I got fed up and told them that it was too much, thats when I got the environmental health in to inspect, then while they were putting reports together it took 2 months for them.to do this I got a section 21, so the report wasnt finalised before the section 21 was issued which was issued the day after I paid my rent but the council had it on system that an inspection by them had been done before the section 21

It almost sounds like he was trying to use you to fix the house.

It sounds like you get your keys very soon. You will be in secure housing and wont ever have to go through that sort of crap again. So look forward to that. a home that's yours well kind of may not be your house but it's your home for the long term. And you cam do all sorts decorating etc and make it yours.

Velmy · 08/08/2025 11:55

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 11:51

She might be getting off on a technicality and abusing the system, but that does not dismiss that she has to take personal responsibility for her own actions and her family. She had a date provided, so bloody well get a grip get some self respect and self ownership and sort out some where else to live.

Not everyone has the means to just sort out somewhere else to live.

Two things can be true here: It's unreasonable of her to stay beyond the date she was given to leave. It's also unreasonable to expect her to make her and her kids homeless (and by doing so intentionally, eligible for less help to find new housing).

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