Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

And given the fact that WLIs are now recognised as being useful to treat other addictions like alcoholism, that tracks!

You are so naive it is scary

It certainly did happen.

There were even news articles about it at the time. Which are still online.

Search for "Doctors receiving money from pharmaceutical industries"

Are we talking about a totally different time and/or place Pamelanoon?

Because that did used to go on in the UK but many decades ago, before WLIs came on the market so really not applicable here.

Many decades ago?

I am looking through all the many many articles online about doctors accepting money from pharma companies.

There is a news articl from 2021 stating that UK GP presctiption patterns were found to be "consistent with a profit motive"

I'm not naïve, nothing comes up under that search term that remotely relates to what you're saying.

A singular GP prescribing an unneeded medication to a patient in exchange for cash from a pharmaceutical company - during which they must have disclosed the patients medical records to a private company without authorisation from the patient - would not only be front page news in the UK, it would have resulted in said doctor being struck off. So why not share their name, so we can check GMC records?

From your own source:

Two thirds of the £340.3 million (£229.3 million) was spent on research and development activities, such as clinical trials, for which information is already disclosed through European clinical trial regulation and transparency policies.
The remaining £111.0m was paid to individual healthcare professionals and organisations for other activities, such as service and consultancy work (£46.0m), registration fees and associated travel and accommodation costs (£14.8m), contributions for events (£31.4m), donations and grants (£30.3m) and to fund joint working arrangements with the NHS (£3.3m).

What you are writing doesnt make sense.

The doctor does not need to disclose the patients information to anyone else.

The doctor receives a payment from pharma companies to promote and prescribe a certain drug.

In one article online it says "the hidden payments raise questions about conflicts of interest, as many doctors prescribe medications without declaring the money that they have personally received from pharmaceutical companies:

That is one source. I picked one at random

There are hundreds of sources online.

It is a corrupt industry.

Exactly ! I hope WLIs help alot of people. Especially those people whose support system consists mainly of people whose best advice is 'just stop eating/drinking'

How will the doctor confirm with the pharma company that they've prescribed their medication then? Or are they just taking their word for it? If so, no need for the doctor to prescribe anything unnecessary surely? Just tell the pharma company they've done 1,000 scripts a day of their meds

Oh so this one source that doesn't represent your view, I should disregard and focus on ones that do? Got it 👌

In which country was this? As thats an incredibly serious allegation.

UK apparently, happens all the time. No word yet on why they weren't in the paper or struck off by the GMC

Why are you so aggressive

It does represent my view. I never said it doesnt represent my view. I was stating that there are hundreds more articles about this online.

As a poster wrote to me that this doesnt happen at all.

And i thought "how can she possibly be so naiive". There are so many reports and news articles about this.

It goes on everywhere. It happens in the UK too. There are many UK reports about it.

Do a quick google search. I will one link for you in the next post.

The rest i am sure that you can look up yourself

Here is one such incident (of many) that happened in the UK.

An investigation found that Novo Nordisk , which makes Ozempic, paid 22 million to healthcare professionals in the UK to "boost its UK presence".

Novo nordisk were also suspended by the association of the british pharmaceutical industry for two years, for breaching its code of practice relating to promotional activites

www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2023/0507/1381110-obesity-experts-consultancy-fees/

There are no news articles that say what you're saying. That's why I'm aggressive, spreading misinformation and falsehoods is unfair and can be dangerous.

The news articles say that Pharma companies give money to NHS trusts (as well as individual healthcare workers) but no mention whatsoever that this is in exchange for prescribing specific drugs.

And as you've now been told repeatedly, a doctor doing this would lose their job.

This includes payments such as consultancy fees, expenses for attending medical conferences and meetings, and donations and sponsorships paid to healthcare organisations.

This STILL doesn't say what you think it does.

I literally posted a news article that says EXACTLY what I said.

Yes it does.

So why were they suspended for bad practice then?

Are you saying that their behaviour is okay?

The association noted that the company had sponsored a free weight management course for healthcare professionals, which it found was a "disguised" large-scale promotional campaign that breached the association's code of practice

the article literally tells you why. No mention of doctors being paid per (incorrect) pill here

No you are wrong.

The weight management course was the reason they were suspended from an accredited pharma organisation. (Which was also found to be corrupt)

That was just one part of the news article.

The article AlSO says that they were found to have paid 22 million to UK healthcare professionals to "promote Ozempic in the UK"

That is a serious conflict of interest.

How can copying and pasting the section of the article that literally precedes the words “breached the code of practice” be wrong.

the part you’ve added STILL doesn’t say doctors are being paid per (incorrect) script by this company, or any other. What they did do was wrong, hence the action taken, but it ain’t what you claim your mums doctor did.

can you please give me the doctors name so I can check what date they were struck off for breaching your mums privacy.

Here is a link to another news article. It says

"Pharmaceutical companies have paid an unexplainrled 156 million pounds to NHS trusts between 2015 and 2022. The findings raise important questions about unrecognised conflicts of interest'.

bmjgroup.com/investigation-finds-unexplained-millions-in-drug-industry-payments-to-the-nhs/#:~:text=Investigation%20finds%20%E2%80%9Cunexplained%E2%80%9D%20millions%20in%20drug%20industry%20payments%20to%20the%20NHS,-Many%20trusts%20didn&text=Pharmaceutical%20companies%20have%20paid%20an,investigation%20by%20The%20BMJ%20today.

The BMJ approached trusts for more detail but few were able to explain the purpose behind these payments. Some trusts said they found mistakes in the data, but would not provide more detail. Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust in London said it did not “recognise these figures as accurate.”