Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

I have a histroy of breast cancer on both sides of the family. Mum, aunts, grans.

I have never smoked, dont really drink (think a glass of bubbles at a wedding max), I work out regularly and the only other lifestyle factor I can work on is obesity. It was very scary being overweight, knowing I was battling against my weight and watching the people I love being treated for cancer.

Whats worse? The cost of cancer treatment or doing the best I can to work on the risk factors?

I never like being fat, and I didn't get body positivity. To me it was like giving me a free pass to carry on getting fatter

No, I never got as big to qualify for WLI so I have to do it the hard way, constantly thinking about food, planning meals, saying no to "treats" , getting in the exercise. I got the weight off, its been two years, but still every day I have to manage what I eat

But its the price Im prepared to pay to stay a healthy weight ( Im not slim ) because I want to be around to see the grandkids get married

Dothe jabs help with lipodema? If so, that’s a a tremendous benefit for those who have this awful condition.

I’m surprised. The book explains very clearly the links between high calorie “canteen” food and hormones (and other factors such as genes) and how these interact together to cause obesity. Did you not agree with Dr Jenkinson’s theories?

Why the snark? You do know that the vast majority people on WLIs are paying for them themselves?

It's funny, no one showed this level of concern about what I was taking when I was given GLP-1 drugs (on the NHS) to manage my insulin, almost a decade ago now.

GLP1 drugs have been used since 2005, starting in USA as a treatment for diabetes. They aren’t that “new” or faddy. The ignorance is staggering.

It's what's known as a "cope"

I don’t know a single person who has said they love being fat.

I managed it just fine 😆
bread is vegan, potatoes are vegan, olive oil is vegan, and a calorie is a calorie so if you're eating too many of them you're going to get fat.

A 0.6ml subcutaneous dose, once a week, is hardly “pumping yourself full of drugs”. Do you meticulously research everything you eat? Do you abstain from alcohol? Do you take the contraceptive pill?

I thought the singer Lizzo did, but now she’s a shadow of her former self…

I agree, I am overweight and envious of other people's losses. I have epilepsy and other issues and am way to wary of any unknown side effects.

0.6ml is 600mg. 100mg per day (700mg per week) is an effective oral dose of thalidomide for some indications. (Thalidomide is still very much around and it's a pretty good drug apart from the effects in pregnant women.)

There are no studies demonstrating the safety of semaglutide in pregnancy. Some animal studies suggest an association with birth defects.

These things are complicated. I'm a believer in science, and obesity is a crippling problem for many. But I don't think you have to be a swivel-eyed antivaxxer to question whether an expensive course of injections of appetite suppressants that also have a number of immediately noticeable side-effects is right for you until we have learned more about the longer-term effects.

If you read what I wrote, you’d realise I am a fat person still (and used to very fat in fact, 23 stone so morbidly obese before counselling helped me to just be “overweight”). I didn’t say for ALL fat people - if you noticed I said the word “personally” , based on my own experiences and to be honest talking to the many, many others I met at weight loss groups over the years who felt the same way. It might not be for you, but I and others found it very helpful and I think counselling can be a reasonable thing for some people to consider before trying weight loss jabs first that could have significant side effects.

What's the success rate of having counselling to lose significant amounts of weight?

And for this reason, you are very clearly told to avoid WLI in pregnancy.

Semaglutide has been used to treat diabetes for almost a decade. Being honest, if the drug wasn't being used for weight loss and purely for diabetics, would you be worrying about them using the drug prescribed by their doctor?

Nobody likes being fat. If there was a magic button to press to automatically make you a healthy/slim body, I'm sure that 99% would press it. All of this glorifying obesity is utter bs. Just an excuse to be fat and lazy.

I can imagine it’s quite annoying - especially if you haven’t any weight issues yourself. It’s incredibly freeing not thinking about food all the time and being drawn to healthier choices instead of the crap food that just depresses you and makes you feel terrible. You feel wonderful, so it’s true, people have become preoccupied with the jabs - but deservedly so in my opinion.

The majority of people in that position - whether they admitted to it or not - almost certainly weren't 'happy' with how they looked/the impact their weight was having on their life/health. Saying that they were, was absolutely a coping mechanism (just like when they claimed they 'couldn't' lose weight for whatever reason) - it was an effort to convince others, and themselves.

I genuinely believe that the majority of those people were in that position because they weren't willing to regulate their food intake or do the requisite exercise to improve their situation.

So now that those people have found a cheat code - the ability to lose the weight without putting in the effort to exercise, or having the willpower to control their eating - of course they're going to be happy. They got their desired result, and can claim it was only possible via medical intervention, while maintaining their fantasy that it was nothing to do with them not moving enough and eating too much.

I find it annoying that we're still in a place even on this thread where people think your either take WLIs OR improve your diet and exercise. I'm working my backside off here, just as I have every other time I've tried to lose weight in the last 10 years.

I went out for dinner with a friend who told me she was using the jabs, but ate a burger and chips. The rest of us had realtively healthy choices (salad bowls and pasta w tomato sauce). It does seem to be a bit of 'well I'm using mounjaro so I can eat what I want' type situation.
I don't know anyone who is happy being larger - one of my other friends is obese but doesn't do much about it (she does some exercise but not cardio so it makes no difference to her weight and she eats a terrible diet imho). I also hate it when I'm bigger and much prefer my body when I can easily slide in to a size 12.

Or maybe she’d accounted for the burger and chips in her daily calorie allowance, because she was going out for a meal and it was a treat?

She did. She's one person that comes to mind when I hear about 'body positivity' and then she lost all the weight!

Most of the time when I see people talking about them it's within the context of supporting each other and asking questions, or people who don't take them never shutting the fuck up about how it's a 'quick fix' and endlessly concern trolling. So there's an easy way to cut mentions in half - people stop goading. Easy.