Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

Fat reducing jabs never entered my head when I was faced with having to lose weight to fend off impending health problems. Just like when I stopped smoking I knew the only person to do this for me……was ME.
Eating less and moving more, healthy choices (no they don’t have to be expensive foods) no UPF, no refined sugar……this was my journey and it works! And has cost the NHS zilch!!!

am on "skinny jabs" as you so elegantly put it, never enjoyed being fat.

You sound very bitter.
Most fat people do not love being fat and do not claim to . Your post is utter hyperbole.

A few people spouting on the Internet do not represent the overwhelming majority of silently desparing people battling their weight.

Do you really think that every fat person doesn’t know about diet and exercise? It doesn’t work for a lot of people, hence the problem! If it worked then obesity wouldn’t be a problem, would it. It’s a physical, medical issue for lots of people hence the need for medication!

I’m on Mounjaro and that… has cost the NHS zilch!!!

My “fat reducing jabs” (GLP-1 agonists, actually) haven’t cost the NHS anything either! :)

Very few people will get them on the NHS. I'm prepared to stay on them for life if I need to. I wouldn't come off of any other medication if I still needed it, this is the same to me.

I take them and I can assure you I'm quite the opposite. I don't talk about it unless I'm asked. I'm 3.5 stone lighter since mid-February and I don't give a flying fanny fuck how I achieved it.

Cool, irrelevant but cool. Most people don't cost the NHS anything when taking WLI, as the criteria to get them for weight loss on the NHS is incredibly tough.

Do you refuse all medicines in case of issue in 30 years?

Congratulations. I am glad that worked for you. If it hadn’t, maybe your health would have deteriorated to the point where you wanted to give WLI a try.

When I quit smoking I had help from nicotine gum. I believe there’s a wider range of medication available to people now which is great. Are people who quit smoking without that kind of help superior to those who do have the support?

My WLI have cost the NHS absolutely nothing. I spend so much less on food now, I calculate they have cost me £13-18 a week. I have probably saved the NHS a huge sum of money in terms of dealing with my future poor health if I hadn’t taken Mounjaro.

I’ve posted a systematic review of anybody is actually interested in the long term effects and potential side effects of these drugs.

Of course it may not be of interest to those who mainly wish to claim some false sense of moral superiority.

No one in real life says they love being fat. Every woman I know over a size 12 wants to lose weight and every woman over a size 16 is thoroughly depressed about their weight.

@Brownbearwhitebear
The vast majority of people on GLP meds do it in secret, any form makes that obvious.
Why?
Because of the vile attitude of people like you.

Indeed. I know some people use their size as ‘plus’ models and bang on about how they love their ‘curves/juicy bum’ etc. They’re lying, imo. I know there are some very overweight influencers who appear successful , but I believe the tide, quite rightly, is turning on this. It’s an appalling influence to flaunt being very overweight and saying how it’s fine and ‘I’m probably fitter than a skinny person’. No, no, you’re really not.

Given the associated health issues, no way do they ‘love’ their bodies. Even buying clothes is a problem. Walking up a steep street is a problem, you end up out of breath, a sweaty mess and have to stop. I know, because I’ve lost half my body weight in the past 2 years, walked up a hill this week and didn’t even feel warm or uncomfortable.

Do I wish I’d been a ‘normal’ size instead of size 26 for years? Yes, of course. I’ve missed out being able to walk into a shop and buy whatever I wanted. I’ve missed out on doing activities eg diving because I would never have fit into a wetsuit. Couldn’t even ride my own horse in his latter years, I was way over his weight limit.

Yup. Everyone I know on the jabs is paying for them privately.

You’re conflating two different things.

1. body positivity
2. being slimmer

When I was bigger there was virtually nothing I could do to get smaller. I didn’t want to be big. But as I was - and with little way out - I wanted to celebrate my body as it was.

When I got the option to lose weight I did.

doesn’t change the first scenario or the fact that I think we should accept all bodies.

No OP, what people mean is they often like ASPECTS of being fat - the bigger boobs (as long as they aren’t so big as to cause discomfort), the bigger bum, and especially in theory, the being able to eat whatever you fancy within reason.

As someone who has been every size between a size 10 and a size 30, I can safely say if there was a magic pill/jab that would let you keep all those things (especially the being able to eat whatever you fancy part), whilst giving you a slim waist, face, arms and legs and without significant side effects, then we would all be taking it.

But I’ve been there and done that with Orlistat amongst others, back when that was the latest thing that everyone was taking. Until they weren’t and most people eventually gained the weight back anyway (and often some more). Wait a decade, and I suspect these jabs will be the same.

I’d only have to put on half a stone now (sadly easily done for me) and I’d be medically eligible for the jabs. But I’m going to wait for more long term reports to come out, as I suspect they are just another weight loss gimmick. Hopefully I’m wrong and they will work for people without them just regaining the weight again eventually.

But personally I suspect that for most people the only thing that will truly work long term is counselling to get to the root cause of overeating or poor food choices, then a willingness to eat a lower sugar/very limited junk diet for rest of your life. Which is easier said than done, so I can see why people are so tempted by this latest thing to supposedly help.

The thing I can NEVER get my head around is why people who don't take WLI, have any interest in the topic.

I've never smoked, so never had the desire to go and tell smokers trying to quit that the medication they are using to aid this is dangerous. If Mounjaro had never been rolled out for weight loss and the very same drug was just being used to treat diabetes, would people be going out of their way to tell diabetics of the dangers?

It's utterly bizarre!

Its very common. Just wait until the side effects of illness or medication catch up with them at some point. Same with the UPF crew.

MoVe MORe, EaT LeS$ yadda yadda yadda.

Someone shared a Reddit thread recently of Doctors saying they have told people to diet and exercise and it either doesnt work or doesnt last.

I tried to eat less and out train my illness, the result was even more weight gain and I got even sicker. Wasnt a good sight.

But surely it’s a rare person that takes (or can even access) medication without ‘good cause’? I wouldn’t take a paracetamol if I didn’t have a headache, for example. Conversely, tho, surely you’d take medication, even preventatively, if your doctor told you to?

Brilliant. My Mounjaro cost the NHS ‘zilch’ too, as I paid for it. Just like the vast majority of people who take it.

It’s because generally, thin people don’t want fat people to get thin. They’ll lose their perceived advantage over them.

I am fat.
I know I am fat.
I don’t “love” being this big - it’s annoying because of rubbing thighs/boob sweat/people look disgusted at you no matter what you eat etc. but I don’t hate myself enough to pump my body full of unknown drugs either.
I physically and medically cannot loose weight until I’ve had surgery (because dieting right now will make me even worse) so I’m waiting until September, and whilst I may never be svelte or slim, I know I can drop at least 3-4 dress sizes and feel better.

It’s so bloody tiresome hearing that fat people need counselling, or they’ll put all the weight back on. I definitely don’t need counselling. I ate massive portions of dinner because I gradually started eating the same size dinners as my much taller husband. I didn’t know what my tdee was and didn’t have a good grasp of how many calories were in the foods I ate. There’s no mental health issue here and I now know exactly how many calories I need to lose and maintain. I keep a tight check on my weight - something I’ve never done before.
Please stop assuming all fat people need mental health intervention, it’s simply not true.

I don’t hate myself enough to pump my body full of unknown drugs either

What ‘unknown’ drugs do you mean? Is there a new medication out that hasn’t been rigorously tested/used for years in various forms?