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On phone in stationary traffic

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Charttopper · 05/08/2025 21:37

NC for this. I'm wondering if any legal folk have advice or whether you all think IABU.

A few weeks ago I was stopped at traffic lights for some time in standstill traffic so I briefly picked up my phone to look at a message that had come through. I was on my own with my baby in the back. Suddenly I was aware of something to my right and when I turned, there was a man in a high vis jacket on a bicycle, stopped right next to my door, and bending down to stare at me through my window. He didn't engage, just stared straight at me for what felt like an age. His position meant that I couldn't get out of the car and it felt very intimidating. I didn't know what his intentions were, or what he'd do next.

He then cycled off ahead and stopped by the windows of one or two other drivers and did the same thing. I felt quite shaken by the experience.

I later learned that he either reported me or was an undercover policeman as he had filmed me on my phone with his helmet camera.

I have now received 6 points and a £200 fine. I accept that the law states that checking your phone including when stationary is an offence so I am not disputing that there should be a consequence.

However, I can't help but feel that 6 points is a disproportionate punishment given that I was stationary and not actually causing risk. If I was moving it would be a different matter but I was not driving without due care and attention, i was stationary with the break on.

Secondly, the method of capturing this footage - a man staring into a woman's car, on her own with a baby, and instilling fear and blocking her in surely is not acceptable?

Can I challenge any of this?

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AppleCiderVinegarTheSecond · 11/08/2025 11:48

I see people doing this all the time. Makes me so angry especially as there is technology which means this is not necessary. I shall start surreptitiously taking a photo when I can then and send it into police instead of my ineffective hard stare!

IShouldNotCoco · 11/08/2025 15:10

Dbank · 10/08/2025 11:33

You just need to buy a phone cradle, then you can touch and read your messages, or use Siri (etc) and you'll still be within the law. (provided you're not distracted etc)

It's "holding and using", that is the offence, not just using a phone.

This is good to know!

IShouldNotCoco · 11/08/2025 15:15

AppleCiderVinegarTheSecond · 11/08/2025 11:48

I see people doing this all the time. Makes me so angry especially as there is technology which means this is not necessary. I shall start surreptitiously taking a photo when I can then and send it into police instead of my ineffective hard stare!

Edited

I assume you mean as a pedestrian, not a fellow driver? Because in that situation, you’d be distracted yourself.

AppleCiderVinegarTheSecond · 11/08/2025 17:13

@IShouldNotCoco of course! Although realistically I could be very vulnerable in that situation.

IShouldNotCoco · 11/08/2025 17:43

Yes, people can be very aggressive. Especially London drivers! In one video posted by the vigilante cyclist, a driver is driving the wrong way up a one way street so he can cut traffic. The cyclist stops him and stands in front of the car and the driver literally drives into him!

Nursingadvice · 11/08/2025 20:18

TheNightingalesStarling · 06/08/2025 16:29

You would like to knock someone whose father was killed by a dangerous driver off his bike?

Don't think he's the arsehole...

Saw a video today of him literally throwing his bike in front of a car, taken by a passer by. Even the police aren’t taking him seriously now.
Even his voice gives me the rage, he is a right twat.

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