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AIBU?

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to be annoyed with both my friend and my husband

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JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 17:47

Been friends with a lady in my local community since she moved here about 4 years ago now to the neighbourhood , same ages DC , both of us working women, and a common group of girlfriends in the neighbourhood. Have done girls night's out in the past, and one trip last year with four ladies in total, with our family

Bunch of us planned a holiday with our family's in tow, for various reasons the three other ladies cancelled - and it ended up being us two away together with DHs and Kids.

So, when we planned it, it was self catering large caravans next to each other at this place that had stunning views and spectacular reviews. As DHs were going to be doing all the driving and some of the outdoorsy camp stuff with the kids, we agreed we would do the cooking. With the trip being only two nights away, we had agreed on bringing homemade food each of us for night 1 and to eat it all together, and to cook something simple for night 2.

Turns out I ended up bringing a huger amount of food for night 1 (the mains) but thought it sort of evened out as we ate inside, at theirs , as it was damp at night - there were two pots used to heat the food and we did leave the washing up of that to them - I left the leftovers with her and I think they warmed it up for breakfast the next morning , while I made some breakfast for us in our own caravan before we set out on activities for the day which again involved a lot of hill side driving which was done by the two DHs.

Turns out and I only found out on morning of day 2 that DH had offered to make them dinner on night 2 - now this annoyed me straight off the bat. It is an elaborate dish but one that DH loves , so it was partly for himself , but still I felt it upset the balanced planning I had in my mind. When he told me about it morning of day 2, I said fine , I hadnt unpacked my reaction yet so decided to go with it for then in order to let day 2 run smoothly and gracefully with the kids having fun as per the plan , and avoiding arguments seemed key. I wasnt happy about it though. It was a dish I hated to eat first off, I can't stand that particular type of fish cooked in that way and he knew that, but he also knew I would eat it if I had to. The original plan was for me and her to cook something simple together with the work divided among the two of us. In my mind, I had already done equal or more on night 1 with leaving a big box of leftovers for her for day 2 breakfast while I didnt take back any leftovers for us for morning after.

When i mentioned to her that DH planned to make dinner on night 2 and that rest of us could help out with prep etc, she answered extremely enthusiastically 'yes he said he was going to cook his fabulous xx for us tonight , wow etc' just seemed a bit odd to me as she knew I do not like that dish , but not her fault, DHs fault primarily . So let it slide

We had to leave the evening activities earlier to go get the ingredients for the elaborate dish, so I think the resentment against DH and her were building inside for me at that point. In retrospect, she could have offered that she and her DH do the shop as my DH was lead chef ? He does do his share of the cooking at home , but usually I have to nag for it to be 50pc though we both work ( a repeating theme on MN i Know) so to me , this reiterated the fact that he sometimes flirts or likes the ego boost of admiration of women, nothing new that I havent spotted already in the past 15 years with him but it has been harmless flirting in the past , never gets to affair stage, but is still low key annoying as I feel esp on holiday me and DC should have been his priority and it is annoying when he is seeking ego massaging as being seen as a great guy from my circle of lady friends instead of fucking off to do it with women at work (sorry for the langauge , but this is inconsiderate and lazy even when 'harmless')

anyway, he made the dinner, with both her and her DH helping as they can stand the smell and look of this type of fish dish, so ended up her H had no rest after a day of driving either thanks to DH changing the plan. She wasn't really doing that much with her DH helping mine , but I noticed on this trip more than I have in the past she likes to project manage and boss everyone around quite a lot , even when she's not doing a great deal herself, it had not been this noticeable in the past , if at all.

I kept the kids entertained in the open plan kitchen/dining and living area while the dinner was being made. Turns out they added too much of spice and flavour to the dish (it is not clear to me why or who's idea that was, as DH always adds just the right amount , never too much heat) and it ended up being inedible for my dc, and my husband cant eat spicy either, so he barely ate either. All of us ended up having mostly just the starters which was ready made and I popped in the oven for us, while their family enjoyed the spicy meal and also had two boxes of leftovers - presumably they were sorted for the long road trip back the next day as the plan to have lunch at an inn on the way back was turned down in a vague manner by them saying kids were fast asleep ( I figured they were eating the leftovers in the car while on the road, as wouldnt be starving the whole day ?)

We proceeded with the inn for lunch etc on our own.

So the above had me annoyed with both DH and friend, and not sure if AIBU?
I have long suspected DH is ND and on the spectrum which complicates it, as he doesnt see planning and organising as crucial the way I do.

The other thing is and perhaps this ties into him being ND, although maybe this is just overgrown teen boy behaviour unnacceptable for a grown man, but when we were at a pub lunch on day 2 - I went to get something from the car, and DH hid my mobile phone I think when I left it on the table at my seat, as a funny joke he says. When I came back in and couldnt see it there, I knew it was probably him and felt embarrased by the clownish act in front of friends, was searching for it just in case it fell off the table, while asking him whether he took my purse , and I noticed friend laughing (at me presumably as was in on the joke) when I was asking if anyone had seen my purse. What kind of 40 plus year old finds this a funny trick to play ? and what kind of 40 year old finds this laughable ?

Read him the riot act for this on the drive back home and he claims it was a funny joke and I was getting too serious. I actually felt a couple of times on the trip that the only other adult was her DH , and there was one incident when she told him off in the kitchen for dropping a utensil on the floor where I felt sorry for him. I actually felt a spark of ..like?....for him when he reacted so gracefully and classily in my mind to her embarrassing outburst. Absolutely not letting it upset him or reacting likewise.

AIBU to be kinda put off by both H and friend for the purse incident too ?
I think I can get liking someone , or feeling a spark, as long as harmless, and no intention to pursue it , we are all human. So okay, to offer to make a dish (him) or laugh (perhaps in embarrassment or not knowing what else to do) (her) for a silly joke.....but I think I am more put off by the fact, that she would not maybe make a quick pasta or something morning off the return to offer me some packed food for the road trip back, or something thoughtful and nice to even things nicely ?

And H needs to grow up re the purse hiding thing , disgusting, thats not even in the AIBU question, that has to be unfunny and disrespectful right ?

OP posts:
Driedupandleft · 05/08/2025 22:27

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 17:47

Been friends with a lady in my local community since she moved here about 4 years ago now to the neighbourhood , same ages DC , both of us working women, and a common group of girlfriends in the neighbourhood. Have done girls night's out in the past, and one trip last year with four ladies in total, with our family

Bunch of us planned a holiday with our family's in tow, for various reasons the three other ladies cancelled - and it ended up being us two away together with DHs and Kids.

So, when we planned it, it was self catering large caravans next to each other at this place that had stunning views and spectacular reviews. As DHs were going to be doing all the driving and some of the outdoorsy camp stuff with the kids, we agreed we would do the cooking. With the trip being only two nights away, we had agreed on bringing homemade food each of us for night 1 and to eat it all together, and to cook something simple for night 2.

Turns out I ended up bringing a huger amount of food for night 1 (the mains) but thought it sort of evened out as we ate inside, at theirs , as it was damp at night - there were two pots used to heat the food and we did leave the washing up of that to them - I left the leftovers with her and I think they warmed it up for breakfast the next morning , while I made some breakfast for us in our own caravan before we set out on activities for the day which again involved a lot of hill side driving which was done by the two DHs.

Turns out and I only found out on morning of day 2 that DH had offered to make them dinner on night 2 - now this annoyed me straight off the bat. It is an elaborate dish but one that DH loves , so it was partly for himself , but still I felt it upset the balanced planning I had in my mind. When he told me about it morning of day 2, I said fine , I hadnt unpacked my reaction yet so decided to go with it for then in order to let day 2 run smoothly and gracefully with the kids having fun as per the plan , and avoiding arguments seemed key. I wasnt happy about it though. It was a dish I hated to eat first off, I can't stand that particular type of fish cooked in that way and he knew that, but he also knew I would eat it if I had to. The original plan was for me and her to cook something simple together with the work divided among the two of us. In my mind, I had already done equal or more on night 1 with leaving a big box of leftovers for her for day 2 breakfast while I didnt take back any leftovers for us for morning after.

When i mentioned to her that DH planned to make dinner on night 2 and that rest of us could help out with prep etc, she answered extremely enthusiastically 'yes he said he was going to cook his fabulous xx for us tonight , wow etc' just seemed a bit odd to me as she knew I do not like that dish , but not her fault, DHs fault primarily . So let it slide

We had to leave the evening activities earlier to go get the ingredients for the elaborate dish, so I think the resentment against DH and her were building inside for me at that point. In retrospect, she could have offered that she and her DH do the shop as my DH was lead chef ? He does do his share of the cooking at home , but usually I have to nag for it to be 50pc though we both work ( a repeating theme on MN i Know) so to me , this reiterated the fact that he sometimes flirts or likes the ego boost of admiration of women, nothing new that I havent spotted already in the past 15 years with him but it has been harmless flirting in the past , never gets to affair stage, but is still low key annoying as I feel esp on holiday me and DC should have been his priority and it is annoying when he is seeking ego massaging as being seen as a great guy from my circle of lady friends instead of fucking off to do it with women at work (sorry for the langauge , but this is inconsiderate and lazy even when 'harmless')

anyway, he made the dinner, with both her and her DH helping as they can stand the smell and look of this type of fish dish, so ended up her H had no rest after a day of driving either thanks to DH changing the plan. She wasn't really doing that much with her DH helping mine , but I noticed on this trip more than I have in the past she likes to project manage and boss everyone around quite a lot , even when she's not doing a great deal herself, it had not been this noticeable in the past , if at all.

I kept the kids entertained in the open plan kitchen/dining and living area while the dinner was being made. Turns out they added too much of spice and flavour to the dish (it is not clear to me why or who's idea that was, as DH always adds just the right amount , never too much heat) and it ended up being inedible for my dc, and my husband cant eat spicy either, so he barely ate either. All of us ended up having mostly just the starters which was ready made and I popped in the oven for us, while their family enjoyed the spicy meal and also had two boxes of leftovers - presumably they were sorted for the long road trip back the next day as the plan to have lunch at an inn on the way back was turned down in a vague manner by them saying kids were fast asleep ( I figured they were eating the leftovers in the car while on the road, as wouldnt be starving the whole day ?)

We proceeded with the inn for lunch etc on our own.

So the above had me annoyed with both DH and friend, and not sure if AIBU?
I have long suspected DH is ND and on the spectrum which complicates it, as he doesnt see planning and organising as crucial the way I do.

The other thing is and perhaps this ties into him being ND, although maybe this is just overgrown teen boy behaviour unnacceptable for a grown man, but when we were at a pub lunch on day 2 - I went to get something from the car, and DH hid my mobile phone I think when I left it on the table at my seat, as a funny joke he says. When I came back in and couldnt see it there, I knew it was probably him and felt embarrased by the clownish act in front of friends, was searching for it just in case it fell off the table, while asking him whether he took my purse , and I noticed friend laughing (at me presumably as was in on the joke) when I was asking if anyone had seen my purse. What kind of 40 plus year old finds this a funny trick to play ? and what kind of 40 year old finds this laughable ?

Read him the riot act for this on the drive back home and he claims it was a funny joke and I was getting too serious. I actually felt a couple of times on the trip that the only other adult was her DH , and there was one incident when she told him off in the kitchen for dropping a utensil on the floor where I felt sorry for him. I actually felt a spark of ..like?....for him when he reacted so gracefully and classily in my mind to her embarrassing outburst. Absolutely not letting it upset him or reacting likewise.

AIBU to be kinda put off by both H and friend for the purse incident too ?
I think I can get liking someone , or feeling a spark, as long as harmless, and no intention to pursue it , we are all human. So okay, to offer to make a dish (him) or laugh (perhaps in embarrassment or not knowing what else to do) (her) for a silly joke.....but I think I am more put off by the fact, that she would not maybe make a quick pasta or something morning off the return to offer me some packed food for the road trip back, or something thoughtful and nice to even things nicely ?

And H needs to grow up re the purse hiding thing , disgusting, thats not even in the AIBU question, that has to be unfunny and disrespectful right ?

I cant believe i just lost 10mins of my life reading about an elaborate, over spiced fish dish that your husband slightly flirted with your friend whilst cooking it... 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️

Moonlightdust · 05/08/2025 22:31

Blooming heck. Maybe it’s because I’m tired but I couldn’t read past the first few paragraphs. I get the gist and do not think an aggravation over a meal justifies that epic novel.

NetZeroZealot · 05/08/2025 22:43

What was the fish dish?

CoastalCalm · 05/08/2025 22:46

I wouldn’t have liked the purse / phone thing as that’s being teased really but the meal I’m like meh it’s one meal let it go

Morry15 · 05/08/2025 22:46

Meanwhile in the real world.....take a deep breath OP and exhale.

BotterMon · 05/08/2025 22:48

If you're that uptight on a holiday how are you normally? YABVU. What a palaver over nothing.

SavageTomato · 05/08/2025 22:48

Is everything in your life this much hard work? Because it sounds like it.

Pregnancyquestion · 05/08/2025 22:48

Liliwen · 05/08/2025 19:34

What I’ve taken from all your posts is

1- you made a massive deal about your husband cooking fish
2- you think he’s ND because he hid your phone (have I got that right?). Which is a bizarre leap
3- you don’t think you should cook if you’re having a period

you sound a bit unhinged OP if I’m honest. Can you see that? Can you see that it might be you and not your DH who is the issue?

look the post was bonkers but

  1. her husband declared he’d cook a dish he knows his wife hates, and had already told the other couple.
  2. She obviously wasn’t finding his prank funny and I honestly hate men that make their wives the butt of a joke to make other people laugh - I’m not sure OP was using that as an example but can’t be bothered to reread.
  3. Her husband was happy to offer his cooking when it wasn’t required to impress her friend, which OP implies is typical DH behaviour - but that energy is not matched at home, to the point that she’s cooking dinner despite being back at work today, because he’s too tired to cook even though it’s his day off.

OP you’ve overthought things and wound yourself up but I don’t agree with other posters that you DH is entirely blameless

Nomdejeur · 05/08/2025 22:49

You say he’s ND, but have you ever thought that you may be ND? Your strict planning and overreaction to changing of plans is very like my asd daughter. The overthinking, the nitpicking etc my dd would have also hated having her phone hidden where I’d have let it go over my head.

Phobiaphobic · 05/08/2025 22:49

I came here just to say I loved when you said 'I hadn't unpacked my reaction yet'. That so perfectly describes how I have a gut reaction to something before my brain has a chance to unravel exactly why I feel so strongly about it.

ClubTropicanaVIP · 05/08/2025 22:49

All I can see or hear when reading this is Margot from The Good Life!! YABU sorry OP

NetZeroZealot · 05/08/2025 22:51

who are Brenda & Frank????

JustSawJohnny · 05/08/2025 22:51

You come across as bitter, sensitive, entitled, judgemental and hard work, OP.

Is there something going on at the moment that is making you over react and question people's intentions?

You don't sound like the happiest of bunnies, and over fish and a silly joke?

Someone2025 · 05/08/2025 22:51

TheChippendenSpook · 05/08/2025 21:13

I wouldn't listen to ChatGpt. It just agrees with you and validates how you're feeling.

I also feel it does this sometimes….like a friend telling you what they think you want to hear

Thisismyusername3 · 05/08/2025 22:52

I think some people are being a little harsh, the long post appears to be ‘overreacting to a dinner situation’, and alot of overthinking, but from the later posts it seems like he is not very nice to you and resentment has built up over time. The friend also sounds a bit annoying to be honest.

Toooldtopretend · 05/08/2025 22:52

Jeez, I thought I could be a bit uptight/liked things going to my plan but I’m feeling like the most laid back person in the world after reading that. Sounds like a weekend from hell with you keeping minute by minute records of who did what & when.

as for the obsession with leftover…who wants last nights tea for breakfast? Why are you bothered about them having leftovers on the way home when you said your family found it inedible. And how “elaborate” can this meal be if it can be made in a rented caravan kitchen 🤯

CircularMotionDementedThrustingGuy · 05/08/2025 22:58

'Unpacked my reaction' 😂😂😂😂😂😂

JLou08 · 05/08/2025 23:01

You sound like really hard work. Maybe a bit of a control freak too. And sexist, poor neighbour man had to help with dinner the day after driving. Poor man's wife had an embarrassing outburst ( stereotypical emotional woman). Neighbour lady is awful because your DH likes to flirt and get an ego boost from women (well he wants that in your head but I'd say you are probably just insecure and massively overthinking your DH wanting to cook, do you really think a man must be flirting if he wants to cook his favourite dish ?)

Oatta · 05/08/2025 23:05

Megapint · 05/08/2025 19:04

Maybe next time go to the pub for tea one day and have take away the next. Save all the fuss. If cooking some fish and driving up hill leave him to tired to function he should see a Dr. Or maybe he was faking and just needed to lie down in a dark room for some peace.

😂😂😂

jannier · 05/08/2025 23:06

JaneAustenFann · 05/08/2025 18:46

Hmmm, and here I was worried I would get LTB responses when that would be too extreme ........

It was okay for him to hide my mobile/purse (tried to change some details so not outing and failed to successfully) ?

In any case, he was too tired to cook today (why am i surprised) and I had to cook while still bleeding after a week of starting my period , and back at work logged in for the day, while he was off work and too tired to cook

What's a normal period got to do with it? You could have said no I've been working you can wake up to cook one meal.

lotsofpatience · 05/08/2025 23:07

Jesus Christ.

Juststop2025 · 05/08/2025 23:07

It's not that hard to understand your points, but then I'm quite bright, unlike many of your respondents. There is no such thing as harmless flirting, of course and this is at the core of your issue. Your husband is a disrespectful arse who lets other women know he finds them fuckable.

That is what flirting is - just to be clear - it is signalling to other people you find them fuckable, whether you actually believe that or not, that is the only intent behind flirting.

So your husband has been letting your friend know subtly (or not so subtly) that he finds her fuckable. He then went out of his way to cook a difficult meal to impress her while ignoring your plans, and on top of that you were concerned he would leave the lion's share of the planning of his "impress your 'friend" meal" to you.

Then, he played a shitty little prank on you which she was in on and they both laughed at you.

Of course it's dispresctful and of course you're upset. Ignore the mumsnet misogynists, they love to take aim at women for - well - anything.

Empress13 · 05/08/2025 23:17

I’m sorry but I can’t even make out what the AIBU is !

BustyLaRoux · 05/08/2025 23:17

Not sure the DH is the ND one….

BustyLaRoux · 05/08/2025 23:20

Nomdejeur · 05/08/2025 22:49

You say he’s ND, but have you ever thought that you may be ND? Your strict planning and overreaction to changing of plans is very like my asd daughter. The overthinking, the nitpicking etc my dd would have also hated having her phone hidden where I’d have let it go over my head.

Exactly this. As well as the keeping score on what is “fair”.