Sex and The City

[Theteenandme]

I've never watched it before (apart from half the episode where Carrie loses her shoes and is a bitch about it). Its absolutely awful and such bad acting!

Did people really like it originally? Or was it one of those things people said they liked because they thought they should?

I dont think it's just looking at it through modern eyes. I cant imagine I would have thought much of it at the time either.

I think people who said they liked it did like it.

People still like it. They like it so much they'll watch the genuine bilge that is AJLT for nostalgia.

I liked it at the time and I don't think it's aged particularly well however I do remember trying to 'binge' watch them at uni (having already seen it all before but rewatching) and trying to watch it all in a 'one-er'/back to back was impossible having realised how much of a pain and a moan Carrie was 🤣 didn't seem quite as annoying when watching every week or so!

How do you know you don't like something you haven't watched?

I loved SATC when it first came out. The characters were pretty funny and the glamour was easy on the eye. Started to like it less as it went on and they tried to make it more “meaningful” than just a jaunty yarn about 4 females in NYC.

Absolutely hated AJLT - totally ruined it by going soooo woke.

having realised how much of a pain and a moan Carrie was

Weirdly, I'm doing a rewatch just now as I'm not gelling with much new stuff at present (I feel like I've watched everything recent that's good) - not only is she completely self-absorbed, a bitch to Samantha, but omg the NEEDINESS with Big is off the scale. I don't know how that man didn't run screaming in the opposite direction from her. She was a nightmare!

Because I have just watched 5 episodes to see what I was missing. 😂
I have realised it's not getting better so have turned it off now.

I think it's easy to forget how groundbreaking it was at the time. What's remarkable is how far viewers loved Carrie. All the criticisms levelled at it for the internalised misogyny, lack of representation of PoC, and stereotypes of gay and trans people are both entirely valid and reflective of mainstream media at the time.

I absolutely loved it!!! I have so much nostalgia fir it and still love it now 😍 She was needy and could be awful and wasn't perfect! That was the point.
I also totally 100% agreed with her about the shoes! I'm certainly not a follower of anything popular or fashionable. I just enjoyed it.

All the criticisms levelled at it for the internalised misogyny, lack of representation of PoC, and stereotypes of gay and trans people are both entirely valid and reflective of mainstream media at the time.

Well, they tried to address that in AJLT and it was a dismal failure.

I've just recently watched the whole thing too.
Never watched it originally.
I found it like chewing gum for my eyes, easy watching late at night.

Carrie's character was ridiculous.
Running around, twirling, gurning and screaming like an 8 year old when she was almost 40.

I absolutely loved it as a teenager. Opened up a whole world to me that I never knew existed (the fashion/lifestyle/life in NYC aspect. The sex stuff probably went over my head somewhat). I probably wouldn’t watch it now, but at that moment in time as a 14 year old in the early noughties in rural northern England it was absolutely captivating!

Just because you dislike it doesn’t mean other people are pretending to like it.

I loved SATC even if I found some episodes really awkward and cringe at the time. And then of course some episodes have aged poorly.

I also actually rather like And Just Like That.

I liked it was fluffy nonsense, the films are terrible though beyond awful and SATC2 was an abomination! but the series i liked it was of it's time it hasn't aged well imo.

I loved it at the time. I didn't like Carrie as a character and I didn't think I was particularly supposed to. It was enjoyable because of the fashion, being set in NY and being about women.

Loved SATC at the time, I loved it for the fashion…didn’t think much deeper than that about it 🤷‍♀️ just enjoyed the ‘stories’

I honestly think it’s impossible to view right now because we’re too close to it - it’s hard to see how revolutionary it was at the time, like ‘MULTIPLE women - not just one freak - can be all kinds of hot and successful and professionally interesting and stylish and INDEPENDENT’. Also there was a big cultural moment right when it was first airing in NY and also London where both cities hit a point in their evolutionary cycles where it was perceived as very ‘finger on the pulse’ to live and work in either. Now people are a bit more ew it’s gross and aren’t you scared of getting mugged etc.

I love the original Candace Bushnell book - she gave it more of a dark side. SJP leant into the twee which then made it more commercial.

It’s like people don’t remember that the original columns/books of Bridget Jones were in themselves a shift away from all the blockbuster Woman of Substance/Penny Vincenzi ‘successful superwoman has it all’ type books. BJD then spawned 20 years of a trend of ‘hapless female’ commercial fiction which now people are bored with slightly. We all like a murder now!

Just trends, innit.

I haven't watched the reboot but I read that people hate watch it 😀

I liked the first film but really hated the second one!

It was clear they had it in for Kim Catrall and it was definitely racist imo.

I’ve started to watch it for the first time, I’m on series one but I’m really not enjoying it very much, does it get better?

That was fast. 7 mins ago you had only seen half an episode 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Is a SATC scrip writer doing your posts because they make as much sense as an episode of the show?

I loved it and still do. Only the original series though, not the films or the reboot series. I watched it at uni and found it quite pivotal in my own sex life - didn’t feel guilty like a lot of my friends did for having a lot of casual sex (and certainly learned to prioritise my own pleasure!), and it was a nice template to enjoy shoes/clothes/nice dinners from my own money. I did/still live and work in the city so it resonated. Especially having a close knit group of girlfriends when you’re far away from family. As I’ve gotten older I re-watch some of the episodes that mirror my own life - divorce, losing a parent, miscarriages etc - it was nice watching them grow and mature. I didn’t agree with everything the characters did or believed but I appreciated that they had a forum. It may not be for everyone but what is! What I find fascinating is how the dating scene in the 90s when it was filmed is so similar to modern dating via the apps - same themes and mannerisms.

The first season or two are quite different from the later ones. Much more episodic. Later on you get more story arcs. And the documentary format goes.

It's a bit like Seinfeld that way. Meant for small doses.

Personally though I always thought it SATC was lame, they were too annoying and not funny enough.