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To think my cleaner shouldn’t bring her own child to work?

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Informercera · 03/08/2025 10:43

I’m really torn on this and would love some outside perspective.

We’ve had the same cleaner for just over a year and she’s been fantastic, reliable, thorough, really kind and trustworthy. We’ve always got on well and I genuinely like her. But over the past few weeks, since the summer holidays started, she’s been bringing her 10 year old daughter with her when she comes to clean.

Her daughter isn’t badly behaved at all. She just sits quietly on the sofa in our living room watching things on an iPad. Sometimes I hear little giggles or the sound of whatever she’s watching, but she’s not running around or causing chaos or anything like that.

Still, I’m finding it awkward. I work from home and I’m usually upstairs on Zoom calls or writing reports, and it just feels a bit strange knowing there’s a child downstairs while her mum is hoovering or mopping the floors. I don’t have children myself and I suppose I’m not used to having someone else’s in my personal space. It changes the dynamic a bit and makes it feel less like a professional service. I also can’t help worrying about the what ifs - what if something broke or she hurt herself? Would I be responsible?

I completely understand that school holidays are a nightmare for working parents and childcare is expensive. I don’t want to be unsympathetic. I haven’t said anything to her yet because I don’t want to come across as precious or unkind. But equally I’m paying for a service and this isn’t what I signed up for.

AIBU to feel uncomfortable about this and consider raising it gently with her? Or should I just let it go for a few more weeks until the holidays are over? I want to be fair but I also feel a bit blindsided. Would love to know what others think.

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Saltysea2001 · 04/08/2025 18:06

x2boys · 03/08/2025 10:50

How do you know she's earning very little?

Do you know cleaners who are earning a lot of money? ie - enough to afford childcare. I don't. Because they aren't.

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 18:10

Saltysea2001 · 04/08/2025 18:06

Do you know cleaners who are earning a lot of money? ie - enough to afford childcare. I don't. Because they aren't.

Yet OP's cleaner has cleaned for OP for just over a year and this is the first time she has showed up with her child.

So she must have had some type of childcare before.

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:10

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 16:17

Is it short term? It seems to be yet another assumption many posters are making.

Half terms etc will soon be coming up when school starts again. There's nothing to say that she won't turn up with her child again during other school holidays going forward because she hasn't bothered to communicate with OP at all.

Now that she's 10, the cleaner and/or the daughter may be less keen to use childcare or she may even be starting to outgrow it.

Gosh, how dreadful. She might bring a quiet well behaved child again. As she gets older she will be able to stay alone, but not at 10. I dont understand people who think it's such a dreadful thing, if her mother can get her work done. I've had all sorts of tradesmen who have brought kids with them in the holidays over the years. It's no biggy. I've had the same childcare problems when my kids were small. I just live with it and sometimes (gosh golly) make elevenses if they havent brought anything, as they are usually well behaved and bored stiff.

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 18:13

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:10

Gosh, how dreadful. She might bring a quiet well behaved child again. As she gets older she will be able to stay alone, but not at 10. I dont understand people who think it's such a dreadful thing, if her mother can get her work done. I've had all sorts of tradesmen who have brought kids with them in the holidays over the years. It's no biggy. I've had the same childcare problems when my kids were small. I just live with it and sometimes (gosh golly) make elevenses if they havent brought anything, as they are usually well behaved and bored stiff.

Because to just show up with a child without asking is rude and unprofessional.

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:15

ButterCrackers · 04/08/2025 12:31

My point is that the cleaner should ask first before bringing along their child to their employers place. Simple but apparently complex here. Kindness is good but it’s something that women are generally called upon to be when confronting boundaries being broken. Be kind and nice and shut up. To add in that I’ve heard all sorts from friends who have cleaners - some of whom struggle to pay for cleaning but they need cleaning done - thieving that couldn’t be proved, smoking, leaving their own lunch plates etc in the sink, not cleaning, a party in the garden when a friend was away, breaking things but not saying etc

The woman comes in for two hours a couple of times a week. I doubt she has even has a key. I dont think OP has a problem with wild parties or dirty lunch distes. She certainly seems happy with her work.

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:22

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 17:45

Why does anyone care so much to be on this thread? Including yourself. Are you the cleaners best chum?

It's rude and unprofessional to just turn up with a child without asking first.

Funnily enough, she is a close family friend,. Previously there have been other people with children in the past who sometimes had to bring their kids including plumbers, electricians and other tradesmen. It's never been a problem. They are kids not animals

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:24

x2boys · 04/08/2025 09:03

But your judging it off your own circumstances,you have no idea whst the cleaner earns or whst holiday clubs are available to her or how much they cost.

and neither do you, but you act as if you assume she has an alternative

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 18:27

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:22

Funnily enough, she is a close family friend,. Previously there have been other people with children in the past who sometimes had to bring their kids including plumbers, electricians and other tradesmen. It's never been a problem. They are kids not animals

Clearly it can sometimes be an issue or OP wouldn't have created this thread and she'd have no one at all agreeing with her which isn't the case.

If I'm WFH with my own kids in childcare, I don't want another kid in my house especially just turning up with no warning and I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:45

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 18:27

Clearly it can sometimes be an issue or OP wouldn't have created this thread and she'd have no one at all agreeing with her which isn't the case.

If I'm WFH with my own kids in childcare, I don't want another kid in my house especially just turning up with no warning and I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

Edited

She doesnt have kids, so that's not her issue.

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 18:50

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:45

She doesnt have kids, so that's not her issue.

She doesn't want a random kid in her house when she's working, especially without any communication first.

I think that's fair enough.

Leedssdeel · 04/08/2025 18:51

MikeRafone · 03/08/2025 15:03

There is no "of course it feels strange"

having another person in the same building as you, its not strange and it happens every day

Well clearly it does feel strange for OP she has said it does. You don’t get to tell someone how they feel just because you wouldn’t feel that.

redjeans28 · 04/08/2025 21:56

ButterCrackers · 04/08/2025 12:31

My point is that the cleaner should ask first before bringing along their child to their employers place. Simple but apparently complex here. Kindness is good but it’s something that women are generally called upon to be when confronting boundaries being broken. Be kind and nice and shut up. To add in that I’ve heard all sorts from friends who have cleaners - some of whom struggle to pay for cleaning but they need cleaning done - thieving that couldn’t be proved, smoking, leaving their own lunch plates etc in the sink, not cleaning, a party in the garden when a friend was away, breaking things but not saying etc

That is a pile of utter bullshit😂You've been posting prolifically on this thread...all of a sudden, a day later you've come up all these 'stories' of dreadful cleaners. Pull the other one.

ButterCrackers · 04/08/2025 22:02

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ButterCrackers · 04/08/2025 22:09

AngelRoja · 04/08/2025 18:15

The woman comes in for two hours a couple of times a week. I doubt she has even has a key. I dont think OP has a problem with wild parties or dirty lunch distes. She certainly seems happy with her work.

The aspect you can’t comprehend is asking beforehand. Something like ‘Can I bring my child next time and possibly every time during the school holidays? If it’s only for this time frame. The op would have said yes or no. It’s what everyone else does if they want to bring the child to work at a planned moment and here it’s where the op lives and works ie not in an office etc.

ButterCrackers · 04/08/2025 22:25

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Really? That’s really nasty rubbish you write about me and my family. Back off

redjeans28 · 04/08/2025 23:17

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ButterCrackers · 04/08/2025 23:40

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Goodness. I’m not lying. What a a nasty comment.

LoLotheYoYo · 04/08/2025 23:52

I'd let it go. Sounds like the kiddo is quiet and well behaved, not making any mess. My last cleaner was very good then started bringing her two kids and one she was minding with her. She'd be upstairs making the place look sparkly clean whilst the kids were downstairs making a right mess, waah! I let it slide the first time becaue she was good and cleaners were hard to find in my area but then same thing next week so it was a yeah nah from me.

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Shelli727 · 16/08/2025 04:28

Seriously?! HOW entitled are you? 🤦‍♀️ This is a woman who cleans your house. She makes WAY less than you, or she wouldn’t be cleaning houses for a living.

You are being 1,000% unreasonable.

Get over yourself, and find some compassion for this poor woman, or clean your own damn house!

Shelli727 · 16/08/2025 04:29

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/08/2025 18:10

Yet OP's cleaner has cleaned for OP for just over a year and this is the first time she has showed up with her child.

So she must have had some type of childcare before.

Yes. It’s called SCHOOL. 🤦‍♀️

Shelli727 · 16/08/2025 04:33

Trovindia · 03/08/2025 10:55

I say yanbu. This woman is a professional offering a professional service. Cleaners round here earn £20-25/hour which isn't a pittance, she needs to factor childcare into her calculations. Everyone else who works has to do that.

And everyone else who works AND can afford childcare earns enough to do so. 20 quid an hour doesn’t pay for child care.

CopperWhite · 16/08/2025 04:35

You realise there are regular school holidays within a year, right?

How is it entitled to get the service you’ve booked and paid for without a child involved?

Would it also be entitled to expect there not to be a child in the room when you’ve paid for a massage, or some other type of therapy? The cleaner is working in OPs home, a private space, and it was entitled of her to think she can let her child tag along without asking.

CopperWhite · 16/08/2025 04:37

20 quid an hour doesn’t pay for child care.

Some of us earn less than that and don’t have the option to bring children to work.

Shelli727 · 16/08/2025 04:38

Informercera · 03/08/2025 12:03

Thank you so much to everyone who’s replied - I didn’t expect this many responses and I’ve read every single one. It’s been really helpful to see things from different angles, even if I still feel a bit conflicted.

Just to clarify a few things that came up - no, she didn’t ask in advance if she could bring her daughter. The first time it happened I thought maybe it was a one-off emergency, so I didn’t say anything. But this has now happened three times in a row and I’m realising it may be the plan for the whole summer. Her daughter isn’t disruptive, but she is there for the full two hours and I do hear the iPad sometimes. It’s not loud, but it’s not silent either. More than anything it just changes the feel of things - it’s different having a child in the house, even if she’s well behaved.

I should also say that I really like my cleaner and trust her completely. She’s been brilliant over the past year and has even picked up on little things around the house that I’ve missed. I don’t want to upset her or make her feel like she’s done something terribly wrong, especially when I know childcare over the summer is expensive and hard to arrange.

At the same time, I think it’s reasonable to feel unsure about the boundaries here. I’m paying for a professional service, and it just feels a bit off having someone’s child sitting in my living room while I’m upstairs on work calls. I don’t have children myself, so maybe that’s part of why it’s feeling intrusive. I also worry about the what ifs - like if she had an accident or touched something fragile.

I’m going to speak to her, gently. I’ll try to keep it kind and non-confrontational - just say I’ve noticed her daughter’s been coming and that I do understand the challenges with childcare, but I wasn’t expecting to have someone else in the house and it’s made things feel a bit awkward. I’m hoping she’ll understand and maybe has an alternative arrangement lined up soon anyway.

Oh, Lordy. I hope you didn’t mention it at all! 🤦‍♀️

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