300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

You are misunderstanding.

If you read Sky (free link) very carefully they are trying to be impartial and they specifically mentioned private treatments as another avenue. The boy with facial injuries was funded privately.

But these 300 children and their families incl siblings will be treated by NHS and funded by government.

The thing is - how are these 300 selected out of all who require help? do they have any connections with the UK? is this their chance to stay here with their parents and siblings?

No, of course not because they are in the UK, working, paying tax and contributing. I'm not some crazed racist FFS.

I just think people actually living in the UK and contributing the the NHS should get first dibs at treatment, especially as its so strapped for cash it can't even prescribe the best medication for my DD.

Edited because I wasn't making sense.

Jesus Christ- the state of some of the comments on this thread.

Many of these kids have serious injuries such a limb loss etc and are utterly traumatised. i am glad a tiny proportion of my taxes are being spent on helping this kids.

Am sure Nigel the cunt will have some nasty racist thing to say about it which I where I assume some of the comments on here are coming from.

Terrible.

Why shouldn't they be treated in the UK?

What do you mean by culture? Do you think a Muslim doctor would operate on a gunshot wound differently to a non Muslim one? What a very very bizarre thing to say.

I don't think this is comparable.

In a publicly funded health system, cost has to have a bearing on treatment, whether we like it or not.

Even private health insurers will look at cost and decline expensive treatments if there is a cheaper alternative.

GOSH has a long tradition of treating children from other countries. It has specialities that are rare elsewhere. It is something to be proud of and long may it continue.

I think I'd want my child to be operating on by the best surgeon for the task, wherever they were.

Oh and what a fucking surprise.

The usual suspects Pro Israel lobby is on here making sure nothing good can happen to Palestinian children.

Assume they are saying that the kids aren’t really injured and it’s all Hamas’s fault 🙄

This is nothing compared to allowing 500,000 Ukrainians to move here.

Half a million people from Ukraine moved here? Where’s that stat come from?

It must be Pavlov’s NHS you are talking about- simultaneously staffed and kept afloat by immigrants and yet being destroyed by immigrants.

No, she will be in a public NHS ward

It's a standard treatment ladder for many automimmune diseases to start on Methotrexate, possibly combined with Sulfazaline or Leflunomide before escalating to Humira/other first line biologics, then only change to something like Cosentyx if Humira/the first choice is not having adequate effect upon active disease or the patient has developed antibodies to Humira - and only after that, in turn due to lack of effect/developing antibodies to the biologic, something like Bimzelx or infusions, for example. More expensive medications aren't clinically necessary if disease activity can be effectively reduced on another medication and have risks in their own right - and higher cost does not mean inherently better.

It certainly isn't privately funded children being treated as private patients at private costs (except for surgeons, etc, donating their own time for no fee out of pure altruism thereby reducing the overall cost to the charity) that determines the guidelines of NICE or an Independent Funding Request referral outcome.

Well quite. But some posters here seem to think that doctors should share your ‘culture’ whatever on earth they mean by that. Baffling.

I agree that 'In a publicly funded health system, cost has to have a bearing on treatment, whether we like it or not.'

This is exactly why I'm not happy about bringing people from other countries for free NHS care when the NHS can't afford to treat the UK public who actually fund it.

This isn't just children from Gaza, I would feel the same about bringing people from any other countries for free NHS treatment.

In fact why stop at the NHS? I'm sure there are people in far flung parts of the world who would love a UK education. I'm sure we can squeeze a few hundred children into our education system and UK children and their parents would happy to step aside.

Pure racism.

And a hatred of Palestinians I suspect. A few of the posters on here are well known on the gaza threads arguing that there’s no kids getting bombed in Gaza. Or starved. Or anything.

Christ.

First dibs? How many children in the UK have had limbs blown off lately?
How many children in the UK are suffering mass starvation? How many children in the UK have been deprived of water, areas plagued with disease, bits of human decomposing around them?

You have presumably heard of private hospitals?

I, for one, would be delighted if my tax contributions were spent helping these innocent children and Their families .

Exactly. People have lost their fucking minds.

I have no idea what any of those medications are but they aren't relevant to my DDs condition.

I didn't say they must share your culture. I said language barriers and cultural differences will make a distressing time for a sick dc even worse.

'Project pure hope' should understand this obvious fact and carry on getting patients treated in other Arabic countries. There are plenty of them nearby with fantastic facilities. They've assisted with thousands, another 300 shouldn't be a problem.