300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

They maybe need to go to a country in conflict and enrol with Project Hope who work in parallel with NHS Doctors.

Sorry about your relative .

I am sorry to hear that but it does not necessarily link with this issue. There are many forms of life saving surgery that are very different from the treatments required for victims of major trauma and doctors specialise in certain areas.

My dad died waiting for a bone marrow donor (he was 24 hours away from op when his organs gave up). I am currently jumping through hoops repeatedly to go on a waiting list to then jump through another hoop to go on a waiting list for a diagnosis and that was all at the suggestion of my son’s consultant. If I lived in another part of the country the wait wouldn’t be so long (and private diagnosis would be significantly cheaper). These things are all true. They are all unacceptable. Treating the victims of major trauma doesn’t affect any of them.

We had similar @MaturingCheeseball it’s just wrong…no budget and no money for it in the NHS...
Then lo and behold just read this and saw it on the evening news …😮
we are a soft touch well meaning country and it’s destroyed us…

Of course we can and that’s precisely what we’re doing.

Unless she is on the private ward in the private building at GOSH. Which many foreign children are.

I am sure. But as an hcp, I treat the asylum
seeker with medical problems, just as I have resuscitated a young man with swastikas carved into his chest. We have to leave the politics of the rights and wrongs of it all aside.

These are the people paying. It’s donated funds.

Project Pure Hope is an initiative led by a coalition of UK healthcare leaders and humanitarians. We are committed to working towards providing life-saving medical care and support to children who are victims of the Middle East conflict, regardless of their nationality, religion, or ethnicity.

Not what I’ve seen it’s not privately funded …this will be the tax payer paying it …we will find out soon enough.

a boy came few days ago and that was privately funded these won’t be ….

This is nice for those children and their families but unless it's definitely not coming out of the NHS budget then it really pisses me off.

My DD has a chronic medical condition (autoimmune). There is standard (ie cheap and keeps you alive) medication and there is new, improved (ie more expensive and gives a much better quality of life) medication. Guess which one the NHS will prescribe despite much begging. It's not as if the new medication is extortionate, it's just more than the cheapest alternative. It would however cost us about 10k a year to buy privately.

It’s not tax payer funded - for the zillionth time.

We are pleased to share that our first two Gazan children arrived safely in the UK on Saturday 26 April 2025 for urgent and privately funded medical treatment, following a 17 months effort. 🎊
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This is a historic first, and we hope it will set a precedent for future evacuations. Hospital treatment has now commenced for our patients, and we are immediately working on the next set of children we hope to be able to help.

We need your help. We are raising £2 million to cover the cost of treatment, housing, and social care for the children and their carers that we bring to the UK for treatment. The more funds we raise, the more likely the UK Government is to support more evacuations.

https://www.purehope.co.uk/

Yes I can read that is for the ones previously….the 300 they just announced said NHS funded and clarity need to be given on that….who is paying?
where are 300 beds coming from …just like that ….

It's not funded by the tax payer. It is funded by private donations.

Whilst I understand that must be upsetting, NICE has always restricted or rejected some treatments on grounds of cost.

I have an autoimmune condition (well several actually, as is often the case) that is "adequately" treated, but might be far better treated with another medication that is not generally available on the NHS as it is not NICE approved.

Treating or not treating children from a war zone will not change that for me or you DD.

reposting again.

It is government funded.

Project Pure Hope is happening in parallel.

Another link (behind paywall)
Sick children to be evacuated from Gaza war for NHS treatment

Another one
Up to 300 injured Gazan children set to receive NHS treatment in Britain | Morning Star

It's NHS, it's government funded.

It is not tax payer funded.

The site of Project Pure Hope is short on detail tbh. No mention of CEO or board members. You have to Google to find the ceo is Dr Farzan Rahman but I'm still no wiser on her team. There's a US Project Hope which has a much more transparent site including all board members. The uk site includes a comment about a gazan doctor allegedly killed in an Israeli prison but there didn't appear to be evidence or detail.

The UK project pure hope site should really share their staffing and their backgrounds a bit more openly unless I'm missing a bit on their website.

How long do you think the children in Gaza, soon to be recogised as Palestine, have had to wait for treatment?

It's a humanitarian crisis.

See, my understanding of that wording is that NHS staff and facilites are being used but the actual treatment is being funded privately by the charity? Am I misunderstanding?

And other 'experts' would disagree with that, isn't that the whole issue!
I don't have an opinion on the legitimacy of either claim. I literally have no skin in the game, to me they're all as bad as each other and I don't particularly care about the politics or religion beyond finding war and terrorism abhorrent. My overall opinion is that we should be more focused on our own here in Britain and let that part of the world get on with it.

Plenty of capacity in Saudi and Qatar, nearer so it's less distressing re travelling. They're helping out already and will easily be able to take more. This charity absolutely do not need to send sick kids from gaza all the way to the UK.

The medication is NICE approved and has been available on the NHS for years, it's just most trusts won't pay for it.

I would have no problem treating children from a war zone if the NHS was well run with money to spare after treating the UK population. Unfortunately, the NHS is barely fit for purpose in some areas and penny pinches to the extent that it's less about quality of life and more about doing the bare minimum.

I really don't agree with a National Health service that can't even look after it's own citizens funding treatment for non UK people.

When you say 'non UK people ', do you include foreign nationals who have been here for decades, working and paying tax in that?

There are humanitarian crises all over the world. How many foreign children do you expect to be treated before UK children get a look in?

I respectfully disagree.

I wish your DD well. Autoimmune conditions can be really difficult to manage.