Page 20 | 300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

Fragmentedbrain · 2025-08-03T00:33:06+00:00

According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide). Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

LoremIpsumCici · 03/08/2025 17:00

2boyzNosleep · 03/08/2025 16:34

As far as I'm aware UAE, Turkey and Jordan have been taking injured children and adults,long before the UK, particularly UAE.

Also, they aren't coming over for grommets. A lot of these children are likely to die without medical aid,and whilst I do understand that it has a knock-on affect on other services, I will not begrudge this (as a parent of a child on a tonsillectomy waiting list for severe sleep apnea).

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Also Egypt and the USA have taken in injured Palestinian children. All the charities doing this have said they have the money and have asked for permission to evacuate thousands more children but Israel keeps denying
permission.

Gloriia · 03/08/2025 17:01

VaccineSticker · 03/08/2025 16:52

If you have lived in the Middle East, you’d know that Gaza is not an 8 hr flight to London.

You would also know that Gaza is on the Mediterranean and not that far from Cyprus.

In fact, if you travel 8 hours (middle) east bound from London, you would be completely past and outside the Middle East 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 probably somewhere over Pakistan or Afghanistan.

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Oh whatever. It's not a short quick trip is the point. Unlike all the very close rich ME countries.
Not sure several laughing emojis are appropriate when discussing the most appropriate places to treat ill children.

JSMill · 03/08/2025 17:02

PandoraSocks · 03/08/2025 16:57

15-year-old Majd al-Shagnobi, arrived in the UK last week. He required complex facial reconstructive surgery after an Israeli tank shell destroyed his jaw when he was trying to access aid in February 2024. He was the first Palestinian child to be flown to the UK for treatment for war injuries.

If you object to this, there really is a special place in hell for you.

Well said. Majd looked so happy to be there. Poor kid.

LoremIpsumCici · 03/08/2025 17:02

Gloriia · 03/08/2025 17:01

Oh whatever. It's not a short quick trip is the point. Unlike all the very close rich ME countries.
Not sure several laughing emojis are appropriate when discussing the most appropriate places to treat ill children.

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It’s as quick as a holiday flight to Turkey.

Absentmindedsmile · 03/08/2025 17:04

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 13:58

Sorry but I won't read an article from the guardian 😂

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Why not?

MissAnthr0pe · 03/08/2025 17:05

TakeMe2Insanity · 03/08/2025 10:41

Rather than being outraged at the government funding (or maybe not) kids from Gaza coming for treatment be outraged that the government is complicit in their starvation and injuries by funding spy planes, personnel and whatever else to the Israelis.

Couldn't have said this better.

SpaceRaccoon · 03/08/2025 17:05

, is a fraction of the cost of the weapons the UK have supplied to Israel.

They sell those. They're not a freebie. And it's licensed third party arms dealers.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/08/2025 17:05

I haven't rtft.
That's fantastic news, hopefully they regain some sense of normality with medical treatment.
I hope Ireland pediatrics opens the doors too, couldn't think of anything better than helping repair these poor children.

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:06

I think its wonderful that the uk is bring them over hope they stay.
A them them that come here on boats need all our help.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2025 17:07

MissMoneyFairy · 03/08/2025 16:23

Of course it will, unless they are funding 300 new beds, equipment,extra theatres , recovery and itu , medication, employing staff, parent accommodation, aftercare, rehab and flights. They clearly need and deserve help but are we doing this for other starving children or is it performance politics.

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Performance politics?

I'm heartened and grateful that 300 children from Gaza will benefit from this performance. Just as I was grateful when we provided medical care for Ukrainian children.

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:07

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:06

I think its wonderful that the uk is bring them over hope they stay.
A them them that come here on boats need all our help.

Move them all in with you then 👍🏼

PersephoneSeethes · 03/08/2025 17:09

Tesremos82 · 03/08/2025 15:35

I'd rather they spent the money on providing free seizure alarms on the NHS so I didn't walk in to my son's bedroom and find him dead on the floor.

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The funding of epilepsy is dreadful in this country. The understanding is getting much better but the rolling out of appointments and services is shocking. Having an epileptic child has completely changed my option of many aspects of who gets what on the NHS. Children go undiagnosed and untreated for many months and years because the lack of ECG equipment and staff. It's so stressful for the parents.

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:10

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:07

Move them all in with you then 👍🏼

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Its all about the help these people need.
Dont be so selfish.

LoremIpsumCici · 03/08/2025 17:13

SpaceRaccoon · 03/08/2025 17:05

, is a fraction of the cost of the weapons the UK have supplied to Israel.

They sell those. They're not a freebie. And it's licensed third party arms dealers.

Oh so selling arms and bullets you suspect are being used to shoot children “like rabbits” (the words of a doctor in Gaza) is ok with you because we are making money 💴 out of it?

Have you ever heard of the term “blood money”?

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:13

Everybody wants to see an end to this, and no body wants to see innocent people suffer, in all for helping these children but I think we have to control what happens to them and their families afterwards, it's quite obvious that they will claim asylum and get it, which is not what we need, we cannot keep accepting people into this country. It's not working and the country is on its knees as it is.

LoremIpsumCici · 03/08/2025 17:14

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/08/2025 17:05

I haven't rtft.
That's fantastic news, hopefully they regain some sense of normality with medical treatment.
I hope Ireland pediatrics opens the doors too, couldn't think of anything better than helping repair these poor children.

Ireland has been regularly evacuating children from Gaza for over a year, the limit isn’t them, it’s the number Israel will allow to leave.

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:14

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:10

Its all about the help these people need.
Dont be so selfish.

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It's not selfish, it's sensible.

SameOldMe · 03/08/2025 17:15

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 10:18

To think it's outrageous that we can pay for 300 Gazan kids (it is the NHS paying for this - the philanthropic stuff is separate) but not British kids? The paediatric pain management services in NHS England has a waiting time of c17 weeks.

This isn't about not treating kids from Gaza (although I knew some people would choose to read it that way). It's about the political choice to make children in the UK wait months to have essential surgery or pain treatment. Why is nobody protesting about that?

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I'm glad they are getting support and treatment, after what they have been through they deserve this and so much more. All children are deserving of health and treatment. I wouldn't put a life above another's life just because of the lottery of where they are born. Children born here are lucky receive treatment.

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:16

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:14

It's not selfish, it's sensible.

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I dont have the spae to move anyone in but i will help as much as i can.

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 17:16

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:13

Everybody wants to see an end to this, and no body wants to see innocent people suffer, in all for helping these children but I think we have to control what happens to them and their families afterwards, it's quite obvious that they will claim asylum and get it, which is not what we need, we cannot keep accepting people into this country. It's not working and the country is on its knees as it is.

If they quite obviously get asylum granted, they are quite obviously genuine asylum seekers in need of safety.

SameOldMe · 03/08/2025 17:16

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:13

Everybody wants to see an end to this, and no body wants to see innocent people suffer, in all for helping these children but I think we have to control what happens to them and their families afterwards, it's quite obvious that they will claim asylum and get it, which is not what we need, we cannot keep accepting people into this country. It's not working and the country is on its knees as it is.

Of course and God willing I hope they get it too.

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:17

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:16

I dont have the spae to move anyone in but i will help as much as i can.

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Funny how everyone who is pro immigration says that, who does have the room then? Where do all these people go? Hotels forever? Because there certainly isn't enough affordable housing.

PandoraSocks · 03/08/2025 17:17

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:07

Move them all in with you then 👍🏼

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Clearly you don't understand how the UK functions.

Was there ever a less apt username!

cofffeeee · 03/08/2025 17:18

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:17

Funny how everyone who is pro immigration says that, who does have the room then? Where do all these people go? Hotels forever? Because there certainly isn't enough affordable housing.

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I hear you i think we should build more homes.

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 17:18

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 17:16

If they quite obviously get asylum granted, they are quite obviously genuine asylum seekers in need of safety.

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So what happens the next time something awful like this happens in another country? How many people can you actually give asylum to? It's not an endless pot.