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To think that if it is illegal to use a mobile phone while driving a vehicle, it must be made illegal to push a pram?

134 replies

llizzie · 02/08/2025 19:00

I have just read this on another site which was discussing how the mobile phone is killing conversation.

  ''Saw an incident two days ago: Young mother pushing child in a pushchair was glued to her smart phone, not looking to where she was going. She was heading straight towards a fixed bollard at the side of the footpath. Last few seconds, she saw it, swerved suddenly, child rocked over to the side and hit bollard full face. Stupidity of the highest order. ''
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Ponoka7 · 02/08/2025 19:02

Why would you think that?

Fragmentedbrain · 02/08/2025 19:03

How would you push a pram while driving a vehicle?

CallMeFlo · 02/08/2025 19:03

How on earth are the 2 even remotely compatible. Makes no sense

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 02/08/2025 19:04

What an odd comparison.

Toottooot · 02/08/2025 19:04

Fit yi spikin’ aboot min?

Mumptynumpty · 02/08/2025 19:05

Prams must be responsible for hundreds of lethal incidents due to phone use. Could statistics be shared for comparison?

ilovepixie · 02/08/2025 19:06

I’ve never pushed a pram while driving a car.🤔🤔

Topseyt123 · 02/08/2025 19:06

??

I assume you mean that using a mobile phone while pushing a pram should be illegal, but you are ambiguous. 🤣🤣 You might be saying that it should be illegal to push a pram while driving a car. 🤣🤣

Disco2022 · 02/08/2025 19:07

Also just really judgy. What if she had a relative in hospital, or was having a mental health crisis and was talking to her friends, or was looking at the maps to find her way. She's pushing a pram she's probably sleep deprived and we've all bloody tripped/walked into things and such like with early motherhood stress on our minds . Phone or no phone. The world needs less people judging mothers.

CommissarySushi · 02/08/2025 19:07

As far as I know, it's not illegal to use your phone whilst driving because there was a lack of conversation during car journeys.

AnSolas · 02/08/2025 19:08

🤣🤣🤣

Would it be the in charge of a child or in charge of a mobile child transportation device?

steff13 · 02/08/2025 19:09

Illegal to push a pram ever or just when you're driving a car? Because I definitely agree that you shouldn't be pushing a pram while you're driving a car.

HappilyUrbanTrimmer · 02/08/2025 19:09

How many deaths per year are attributable to people talking on their phone while pushing a pram?

If you mean driving a car while pushing a pram I agree with you 💯 %

FluffykinsTheFerociousFeralFelineFury · 02/08/2025 19:36

If it's made illegal to push a pram, how is the pram supposed to transport the child around? Has someone invented a self-driving pram?

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 02/08/2025 20:02

I love a badly worded post

No, you shouldn't push a pram whilst driving a car

Nor should it be illegal to push a pram because prams don't self propel

CarpetKnees · 02/08/2025 20:54

You are being ridiculous.

BMW6 · 02/08/2025 20:57

What??????????????????

llizzie · 02/08/2025 21:06

llizzie · 02/08/2025 19:00

I have just read this on another site which was discussing how the mobile phone is killing conversation.

  ''Saw an incident two days ago: Young mother pushing child in a pushchair was glued to her smart phone, not looking to where she was going. She was heading straight towards a fixed bollard at the side of the footpath. Last few seconds, she saw it, swerved suddenly, child rocked over to the side and hit bollard full face. Stupidity of the highest order. ''

I thought it might be clearer like this:

Saw an incident two days ago: Young mother pushing child in a pushchair was glued to her smart phone, not looking to where she was going.

She was heading straight towards a fixed bollard at the side of the footpath. Last few seconds, she saw it, swerved suddenly, child rocked over to the side and hit bollard full face.

Stupidity of the highest order.

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llizzie · 02/08/2025 21:13

CallMeFlo · 02/08/2025 19:03

How on earth are the 2 even remotely compatible. Makes no sense

Using a mobile phone while driving is illegal because it can cause accidents and endangers life.

I think if someone is pushing a pram with a child in it, not looking where they are going because they are speaking on a phone, if someone gets hurt they should be held responsible.

I saw this on another place and thought it might be a good idea to ask your opinions.

If you think it OK to push a baby in a pram and not look where you are going, fine.

I think that if the phone rings while you are out pushing a pram, you should either turn the phone off and carry on walking, or stop walking to answer the phone.

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FinancialThyme · 02/08/2025 21:17

llizzie · 02/08/2025 21:13

Using a mobile phone while driving is illegal because it can cause accidents and endangers life.

I think if someone is pushing a pram with a child in it, not looking where they are going because they are speaking on a phone, if someone gets hurt they should be held responsible.

I saw this on another place and thought it might be a good idea to ask your opinions.

If you think it OK to push a baby in a pram and not look where you are going, fine.

I think that if the phone rings while you are out pushing a pram, you should either turn the phone off and carry on walking, or stop walking to answer the phone.

Pushing a pram while on your phone isn't really any more dangerous than just walking while on your phone. Do we ban all phones whilst in motion? Do we need to stop calling them "mobiles" because it gives the wrong impression? Will you be championing the new 'immobile phone' safety campaign?

llizzie · 02/08/2025 21:19

CarpetKnees · 02/08/2025 20:54

You are being ridiculous.

I don't know why I bother with such inane comments.

You obviously use your mobile driving a car and see nothing wrong with it.

From your comment, you also think nothing of pushing a pram along the pavement and talking on the phone as you do so.

When I read this comment I didn't know mothers actually walked along the pavements with their phones glued to their ears and their eyes not looking at the pavement ahead.

If you saw that, what would you think? If it happened to you, that someone pushed a pram into you because their attention was elsewhere, and caused injury, how would you feel? Would you want that person to pay for your injury?

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CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 21:19

Toottooot · 02/08/2025 19:04

Fit yi spikin’ aboot min?

Fairyboots quine? Fit like?

WunTooThree · 02/08/2025 21:20

YABU

If you lose control of a pram because you are on a phone, you do no have the potential to mow into other people and kill them.

Where are the stats on this danger you speak of?

BertieBotts · 02/08/2025 21:24

How did you get that little box to come up? <intrigued>

The question is completely nonsensical.

A car is a 2 ton metal object capable of killing people. Yes it makes sense for there to be restrictive laws around their use.

A pram is rather light and flimsy. It doesn't make sense to have laws around their use.

It's probably unfortunate/not very sensible to crash into something with your baby in the pram because you're distracted by the phone but it's unlikely to cause any permanent harm.

BertieBotts · 02/08/2025 21:26

Why does talking on the phone make it impossible to look where you are going, though? I can steer a pram perfectly fine while talking on the phone. It goes much slower than a car! I've never run any of my children into a bollard, a person, or any other obstacle.

In the anecdote you told, the parent was LOOKING at the phone screen, not talking on it.