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To think that if it is illegal to use a mobile phone while driving a vehicle, it must be made illegal to push a pram?

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llizzie · 02/08/2025 19:00

I have just read this on another site which was discussing how the mobile phone is killing conversation.

  ''Saw an incident two days ago: Young mother pushing child in a pushchair was glued to her smart phone, not looking to where she was going. She was heading straight towards a fixed bollard at the side of the footpath. Last few seconds, she saw it, swerved suddenly, child rocked over to the side and hit bollard full face. Stupidity of the highest order. ''
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llizzie · 05/08/2025 23:46

latetothefisting · 05/08/2025 20:56

cannot be reported to who?

Are you suggesting the bystander (or the bollard, who would probably still make more sense than you) should report the mother to the police for endangerment by reckless pram driving?

If someone who was distracted on their phone ran into you and injured you, maybe having to be off work, wouldn't you want to do something about it?

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 06/08/2025 15:00

PInkyStarfish · 02/08/2025 22:33

From 2012 Western Australia -

A WEST Australian mother was issued with a $250 fine for talking on her mobile phone while pushing a pram along a footpath.
Police have confirmed the incident occurred in Mandurah on April 21 last year.
Inspector Bill Munnee said in a statement today the infringement was issued by a Senior Constable from the Peel Traffic office to the woman for using her mobile phone while she was in control of a pram as she walked her child on a footpath.

The fine, understood to be $250, was withdrawn within 24 hours when the Senior Constable’s boss realised the massive error.
“It was recognised as incorrect within 24 hours by police,” Insp Munnee said.
“As a result the officer’s OIC (officer in charge) immediately contacted the woman involved, attended her address and apologised (and) cancelled the infringement notice.
“The officer concerned had misinterpreted the law involved regarding the definition of a vehicle.”
Insp Munnee said the officer at the centre of incident “should have known better."
“He was provided guidance and the matter was adversely recorded on his performance file,” he said.
Insp Munnee said the woman concerned accepted the apology from police.

I love this report

Chompingatthebeat · 06/08/2025 15:10

llizzie · 05/08/2025 23:46

If someone who was distracted on their phone ran into you and injured you, maybe having to be off work, wouldn't you want to do something about it?

Its a pretty rare occurence in the scheme of things, although someone ran into me with their mobility scooter once, should i have reported that? Oh and there was the boy on his ipad who walked into my kid once on holiday, he should go down as well

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/08/2025 15:45

llizzie · 05/08/2025 23:46

If someone who was distracted on their phone ran into you and injured you, maybe having to be off work, wouldn't you want to do something about it?

Unlikely to cause enough harm to want to go through making a no win, no fee company richer with a spurious personal injury claim when they just as likely don't have insurance to cover walking in the street with their kid in any case.

laurini · 06/08/2025 15:55

What are you going on about?

laurini · 06/08/2025 15:58

Also, in the unlikely event someone was hurt by someone pushing a pram, the law already caters for it e.g. recklessly causing a battery.

llizzie · 09/08/2025 19:07

MuckFusk · 04/08/2025 23:47

The story you posted said "glued to her smartphone" and mentioned her not looking where she was going. That means she was looking at her phone, not just talking on it. Talking on it without looking at it doesn't prevent people from looking where they're going. Why can't you understand that?

Why can't you understand that I was quoting the exact words of someone who witnessed it. Their account was on another site, completely unconnected with this one.

I wanted opinions on it. It seemed to me to be absolutely wrong to endanger a child that way. It also occurred to me that it was equally wrong to endanger other pavement users, whether pushing a pram or riding a scooter or wheelchair, or pavement scooter.

Incidentally, this year the number of drivers handed instant fines for holding a phone and driving has gone up considerably in the past few years. That was on the news a couple of days ago.

It seems, even with a law against it, fools cannot help themselves.

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BoredZelda · 09/08/2025 19:15

You win for the stupidest thing I’ve seen on the internet.

My husband was pushing my daughter in her wheelchair. We were running to get inside as it was chucking it down. He ran her face on into a bollard. She had a mega bruise for a week. No phone involved. Should we ban running in the rain?

These things happen. Distractions are all around us. Let’s not equate that into driving a machine capable of killing whilst distracted.

MuckFusk · 10/08/2025 01:23

llizzie · 09/08/2025 19:07

Why can't you understand that I was quoting the exact words of someone who witnessed it. Their account was on another site, completely unconnected with this one.

I wanted opinions on it. It seemed to me to be absolutely wrong to endanger a child that way. It also occurred to me that it was equally wrong to endanger other pavement users, whether pushing a pram or riding a scooter or wheelchair, or pavement scooter.

Incidentally, this year the number of drivers handed instant fines for holding a phone and driving has gone up considerably in the past few years. That was on the news a couple of days ago.

It seems, even with a law against it, fools cannot help themselves.

I do indeed understand you were quoting that person and the quote seems to indicate the person with the pram was looking at her phone, not just talking. So my point stands.

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