Thread 12: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer
To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for eleven very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.
No saltiness. Keep to the path.
Will our life-size cardboard cut-out Simon Armitage keep his head?
NB Timeline coming in the first posts of this thread for reference.

On Goodreads, I would imagine you simply get a friend to review it. Anyone can sell via Amazon. I’m not sure how Waterstones works.

The Waterstones reviewer also put up one of the Goodreads reviews. It looks like they uploaded all their Goodreads reviews to the Waterstones site a few years on.

I imagine in theory author could review under different guise/s (?) & family & friends as well as genuine reviewers?

Back then you self published on Create Space which was an Amazon platform. Your book went onto the Amazon site and was then published to order each time it was bought. I would imagine, although I don't know definitely, Goodreads was part of the same system as there were always links to the Amazon site.

I only know this as I was trying to find out something about Stopcock today:) In light of the above, there's a good chance that only a handful were ever printed.

Thanks for that

It's from a blog post - I think it was shared a while back

Sorry, but what amazes me is the amount of space a national newspaper has given to this story. Especially with all the other things going on in the world. Readers of life/nature writing should realise that an awful lot of it is created from old diaries, notebooks etc. years after the events in question. Some of the most respected, memoirists (Norman Lewis is a great example) were writing of incidents decades later. There is always going to be a certain amount of creative re- thinking of conversations etc. In this more recent case it seems more extreme and maybe the answer is simply to change categories or shelves.
But really, enough is enough. Has The Observer nothing more pressing to report?

Oh 'eck...

Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for eleven very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

From @DisappointedReader's OP.

Thanks for the extract from HNTDYD. From a literary point of view, it does not fill me with a burning wish to read the rest.

I'd want someone to have eyes on it if only to compare it to the three RW books.

How much of it is in any of them, for instance...

Oh agree, it would be a fascinating comparison.

The "simple, pure soul" stuff is IMO v interesting.

In this post truth age, truth matters. A book marketed as ‘unflinchingly honest’ must be exactly that. When we let what appear to be the small things go it sets a dangerous precedent. If we cannot trust respected institutions like Penguin to be truthful, we’re in trouble. Well done to The Observer for a thorough investigation and championing truth. That’s true journalism.

Why the ‘two signatures’ …? ‘Dispute with friend’ etc. If too near knuckle wouldn’t have served them/her? I’ve flagged before but I don’t get why staying with friends inevitably causes rows & arguments. Acc to Ray.

Maybe the family had had enough of them and their pathological lying ways, even then, and scrounging off them would have caused even more friction.

Absolutely but Ray states as if norm that no friends or family would offer temp accommidation.

To add without inevitable rows.

Could anyone who has 'Landlines' possibly post a screenshot or excerpt of page 302 where the 'healed' brain scan scene happens? (I hope the page is correct, I got it from an Observer article) 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
That would be super helpful, I need to check something.

Also this thread is moving fast, one day away and so much catching up to do 🤯

LL pages 302 and 303.

I hear The Observer is only printing 1 story a week in the entire newspaper now. Incredible!

Thank you! 🤗

Just read this, as I'm waiting for my second hand copy of LL to arrive (maybe tomorrow) and my immediate thought is: ludicrous. Not the results as such, but the idea that a consultant would say 'what do you think you'll see? What would you like to see?' as if the patient is a game show contestant trying to win a mystery prize. Just no.

One thing I can believe is that SW mother was desperate for a better life for her daughters than she had suffered as a poor relations apparently not even with her own home, but oart of another household (pps have suggested), then hopes of her and SW dad taking over the tenancy dashed.

So SW mum she could well have been horrified to see her daughter take up with another working-class un-propertied man rather like her own husband in terms of prospects (albeit plasterers may be on a slightly higher day rate than stockmen).

I was shaking my head thinking, I can't believe a consultant said that when I read that bit too !

Is the 'recent MRI scan' mentioned in that scene more closely explained earlier in the book? Or only on that page?
If there is more about that, could you send me a photo of that as well please? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻