Thread 11: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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No saltiness. Keep to the path.

Does stolen fudge taste better?

It's all a bit 'no room at the inn'.

Snap.
When I read the book, the stuff about using their own tea bags in the cafe didn't register, but it certainly did when I saw the film.

I don't think that Polly is the sister. Looking on FindMyPast (other family tree sites are available!), I can find her sister, born in 1957. Someone with that name then marries in 1977 in the same area but passed away in 2005 in Leicester. I have not yet had time to research women with that name outside the Staffs / Leicestershire area, but will do so to see if she moved before getting married. This would explain why she was not at her mother's bedside with Raynor/Sal.

Thanks for thread 11 @DisappointedReader

Oooh, Irish Lady's Tresses sound fab, a plant with a security detail! That's what the in-person MNers needed the other night haha.

Re: the go slow in nature snark. Maybe I've met them!! I did the Coast to Coast cycle in 2015* and stopped one night in the Lake District at a gastropub inn.

The [temporary?] landlord, who was exceedingly grumpy to have to do any work, and his wife loudly made it known that they disliked cyclists who "just rush past everything!"**. They weren't keen on the mud on my bike – even outside. Let me add, this was not a posh or gleaming place either. Nice enough, but not that special.

She looked SWish, but he wasn't much of a TW/SA/MK.

*For charity, on a shopping bike – yes, the Pennine encountered was very difficult, I wheeled it up.
**I couldn't walk Wainwright's Walk, as couldn't take so much time off work.

Oh come on... whilst I can't speak on behalf of @Fandango52 I will say it's gotta be the superior salt n vinegar otherwise I'm not interested.

But yes, please give generously to the go fund me. If we get enough I might be able to start actually paying for my Fudge bars rather than shoving them up my jumper!

I don't think Irish Lady's Tresses get the security detail, I think that's Lady's Slipper -- I think at one point there was only a single patch of it in the UK somewhere in Yorkshire, and it has security cameras and a dedicated warden when it was in bloom!

Just catching up after a few days 😂

I went abroad and on the plane in front of me was a young woman chatting animatedly about all the controversy and she had a copy of the TSP and was about to start 🙈 it made me realise how many people will be buying the book for this reason alone 🙈🙈

Also - still no comments from the film side of things including GA and JI?! It reminds me of when everything about Ellen came out and sooo many were silent.

Since the Observer revelations, TSP comes with a 'health warning'. If people wish to read it and take from it, what they want, so be it.

Take this path with a pinch of salt, surely.

Indeed!

Do not, as some ungracious pastors do,
Show me the steep and thorny way to heaven,
Whiles, like a puffed and reckless libertine,
Himself the primrose path of dalliance treads,
And recks not his own rede.

@CoasttoCoast84 Also - still no comments from the film side of things including GA and JI?! It reminds me of when everything about Ellen came out and sooo many were silent.

Yes at a cinema in Plymouth, last night:
We are delighted to welcome the screenwriter and director, Rebecca Lenkiewicz, to the screening on July 29th.
I would have loved to have gone and asked her about her screenwriting of TSP - but she was there for her debut directorship of another film, and didn't think it would be appreciated!

Also - still no comments from the film side of things including GA and JI?! It reminds me of when everything about Ellen came out and sooo many were silent.

What can Gillian and Jason say? They were hoodwinked and made fools of. Particularly Jason. From them, silence is probably best from their pov.

Will those behind the film let it go? They've potentially lost millions. Plus there'll have been contractual obligations from Gillian and Jason that are likely being discussed.

I (well, my brother) overheard someone talking about the controversy on holiday too! Last week we were camping near Polruan and the cider farm. My brother overheard a child in the party next to us talking about them two days running. First they were telling the adults in their party the Winns were 'hiding out because a mob was after them', then the next day they were jokingly telling someone they were running away, 'just like Raynor Winn' 😁

Yeah - for me, it leaves a bad taste that the Winn/Walkers are still making money off TSP, especially if people continue to buy it to see for themselves what they read about it in the press.

In terms of GA and JI, it does seem to be a situation where they’re caught in the middle,. No doubt many people will be wanting them to say something, whilst others will think it best they don’t say anything. If they do say anything, that may well draw attention from the Observer investigation, so it’s probably for the best they don’t say anything yet. I actually think it’s fine for them to not say anything, because I don’t know what they can say that hasn’t already been said. Yes, JI did fawn a bit over Moth, but I think that’s understandable given he is an actor promoting a film about a living person in terrible circumstances (as we understood then).

Rebecca L, daughter of the great Plymouth artist Robert Lenkiewicz, the stories about whom would make Raynor and Moth pale into insignificance....

I don't think Polly is her sister either, but for different reasons. I mentioned it ages ago but I think i may have fallen foul of the thread rule of keeping uninvolved/non-reported names out the frame. As vague as I can be, there are two names in the acknowledgments of TSP that are suggestive of a couple and those names match her sister and BIL. Meanwhile Polly is also acknowleged. The "couple" could of course not be her sister and BIL but it's intriguing to consider.

That is quite strange - almost like it has entered popular culture, for a while anyway. What I am most concerned about though is - did you get any cider. I don't think Hayes are making it are they? But, I wondered about Fowey Valley?

Robert Lenkiewicz focussed on the marginalised and down and outs of Plymouth (Google Diogenes), so quite naturally his daughter would have been attracted to many of the themes of TSP.

Yes, when Robert died, a dead tramp was found in a drawer in his studio.

Indeed!

Oh I see. I was talking about the book. I didn't like the film for that very reason. They changed a lot of the storylines. Drove me mad.

From Wiki: Another corpse, that of a 16th century midwife who was hanged for witchcraft, was found in the same room, which Lenkiewicz termed his "death room".

The Peculiar Tale Of Robert Lenkiewicz And Diogenes, The Tramp Who Became The Ultimate Memento Mori - Flashbak

Post COVID guests, I really felt for Polly.
We have what could be at a stretch, described as a semi derelict piggery which occasionally gets used as an emergency bedroom. It had at one point a smashed (by an accidental guest) window, with cardboard tapesd over it. No lock and daylight leaking round the door frame.
Someone borrowed it during the later lockdowns to visit their local parents, over a few months, then gave us £200. We were quite surprised but turned out they'd been running heaters, dehumidifier, slow cookers, epic long electric showers and £200 didn't even touch the sides.
They patched up the shower, the fired earth tiles couldn't cope with the epic shower hours and complained about the electricity tripping.
You can see with RayMoths vision this could be spun multiple ways probably with the initial good deed being well and truly punished.