Angry men about womens football

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I was listening to talk radio and there was a very angry man on ranting away about womens football. He was basically saying put it on a different channel. Noone wants to watch, even his wife agrees. He was out of breath he was that mad. I was quite taken aback. Far enough if you dont like it, dont watch. Why on earth he was this upset I dont know! Whats with this disgusting reaction! How weird!!

Yes but seeing how good elite athletes are is very difficult to comprehend without a relative measure. Questioning whether the England men’s team aren’t really all that good at football because they haven’t won a tournament makes no sense when they’re clearly extremely good, just not as good as others. It’s like saying whoever came 7th in either of the 100m events at the Olympics isn’t that good.

At the moment the pitch size is probably to the detriment of the womens game

I agree. Size of goals could also be interesting.

I think there is also the fact that having a common pitch helps the game in terms of facilities rather than hinders it.

Absolutely. Requiring different sets of infrastructure wouldn't make football more accessible to women and girls.
One could argue about "professional" settings specifically. Although one would have to ask whether (female) players would even want those adjustements...

I do however believe that considering how the size of a pitch (length of games, weight of balls etc.) will emphasise already existing physical differences between men and women - and how that affects the sport - is important.

The Lionesses have never won the World Cup. Are they just not good enough? No, it's more complicated than that.

Saying being 'losers' for not winning a final. whatever one's sex/gender, is akin to saying that an Olympic Silver is a losers' medal which is clearly isn't. If you child doesn't get 100% in every test in school are they 'losers'?

If you need another fix of successful English women's sport, the RU World cup starts soon, my family already have their tickets to watch England in the Final at HQ!

How much do you think is invested in German or Spanish or French professional footballers?

Have you won a world championship or were you no good?

Blimey @Masterbeth

I doubt you are the only person on here that has experience of elite sport.

Yes but seeing how good elite athletes are is very difficult to comprehend without a relative measure

No it isn't 😐

I’m sure that’s true.

You mean do they stick a tampon up their bleeding nose and carry on. Yes.

Most of the men I know have been very supportive of women's football. My DD plays rugby and similarly most of the men I know are supportive of the women's game. There are a small minority where it touches a misogyny nerve. Part of a wider and I am afraid growing INCEL culture that thinks women control sex, are increasingly in higher positions at work and (goodness me), now claim to be European Champions at football!

I do not think we should ignore this, I think we should argue the case that women athletes deserve every bit as much respect as their male counterparts.

No, the short answer is no, women do not play at and roll around as much as the men do.
Lucy Bronze played the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Fractured! Some of the England men could be up for BAFTAs with the amount of method acting that goes into to their reaction to ‘fouls’.

Exactly. I’ve not played elite tennis but I know how fucking good Serena Williams was!

See, I find cricket boring and I'm not interested in rugby (or golf, darts and several other sports that are often televised). But I entirely accept that a lot of people enjoy it, so I don't even think of going on threads (as I've seen many men do) and complain about it.

I suppose you have to admire the late George Best who would arrive drunk on a match day, get sobered up and go on for the last 10 minutes and score a goal. It's a skill set of sorts 😁

I've never run further than 5k but I can see Alex Yee is an absolute machine.

Well Lucy Bronze played the whole tournament with a fractured tibia & in a lot of pain. She practically had to be dragged off the pitch last night.

I think because female athletes at all levels face barriers to sports participation, they've developed a grit & a bloody determined mindset. This puts them in a good position to overcome barriers & obstacles much more quickly then men. Men generally have had it good and haven't been challenged in the way female athletes have.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwy5vvy275yo

that final was the most watched TV moment of 2025 apparently… 22.1 million audience on BBC coverage alone and 232 Million views across BBC sports social media accts… perhaps that will shut up the ‘no-one watches women’s football’ blokes for 5 mins? I mean, we can hope?

Any little girl playing football in a mixed league is going to come out of it a warrior. The amount of shite my dd had to take from boys and their dads was insane. They were 9.

I'm not a football fan, or any spectator sport fan in general. The final was on the screens in the gym last night and I was glancing up with mild curiosity.

It's great that we have a football team winning tournaments and a rapidly growing culture of female sport with professional role models.

A major portion of my sporting apathy comes from growing up with sexist divisions in sport in the 80s-90s. It was ingrained into my family; it never occurred to my dad to take me to matches as he did with male family and it was just an accepted "truth" that the women of my family were lousy at sport, which came from mum massaging her inferiority complex. At school, there was no access to football in PE and it was segregated leaving girls with sports of little wider cultural value such as netball, hockey and badminton. Most of us were still watching TVs with 4 channels so stuck watching male sport on Grandstand. Tennis is about the only non Olympics sport that I can really think of as being a "women's sport" from that era.

There were a few girls interested in following or playing football, but it was quite anomalous, and not widespread enough to be a culture.

I'm glad times have changed and that they've gained momentum in the last 15 years. It's good to see it being normal for young girls playing football whether it's on mixed sex (male dominated) or single sex teams. Even so, girls still have to push for space on school playgrounds or to be accepted by male classmates. There's enough misogynistic idiots spouting off about our professional women's teams trickling their toxicity down to children.

Female access to sport is important. It's great for our physical and mental wellbeing. It's great that girls finally have role models of their own sex to inspire them, and that doesn't take anything away from the male game.

At 12 June the England Women's team were 5th in the FIFA rankings, so hardly doing bad. Looking forward to the August update to see if they move up after this win.

Back to Joey 'knobhead' Barton, I saw a good quote on FB earlier today. It said "The Lionesses have won more European championships than Barton has England caps, and even the 1 cap he has he only came on as a sub in the 78th minute."

In his 15 year senior career he scored 33 goals, so just over 2 per year. Hardly impressive. He's got a longer list of violence and assaults than he has goals.

More famous for kicking his wife in the head for any ball he ever kicked. He’s all click rage bait. He’d said anything to get someone to click on his SM so he can scrabble a few pennies together. Washed up, ignorant, and furious at the mere existence of female athletes. I suppose he doesn’t like the idea that women might be physically strong enough to fight back next time he comes at one… I’m mean, stick him and Lucy Bronze in a ring and my money would be on Lucy all the live long day.

Those are very good viewing figures and it means money will follow. It’s good entertainment, particularly in an age when people don’t tend to come together events in the way they used to.

That's interesting. At my (small) secondary PE was mixed. Basketball was the sport it worked best because although the boys were faster the girls had more skill because we all had done netball at primary. At my kids secondary the top PE sets were split but the bottom set was mixed. But everyone did the same sports.

I will check my chromosomes and let you know.

I suspect just one of those women who think women’s ‘rights’ have gone too far, and what about the poor men who are suddenly being ‘discriminated’ against.