This is why we should bring back the death penalty

[bluewanda]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14918815/drug-addicted-cross-dresser-abused-lover-murder-son-hospital-ward.html

(One example of many.)

@LakieLady forensics are better now and the burden of proof is no longer "he said she said"

By getting the basics wrong…like their name….for a start..

One would hope so. Though some are more cut and dry than others. For example a blood spattered mad man walking own the street swinging a knife... multiple witnesses, CCTV, DNA, in some cases even admission, etc etc.

When Fred West took his own life, sparing the state the cost of lifetime incarceration and saving the cost and trauma of a trial, the pitchfork wavers were outraged that he wasn't man enough to face his punishment.

Do you really think the best punishment for this man is release from living with himself, instead of facing a court and the inside of a prison?

Someone can be released from incarceration if later found to be not guilty.

It's not a hard concept to grasp.

What’s ‘automatism’?

'Cases where it is truly cut and dried are few and far between.'

Yet they are usually the most heinous and deserve the death penalty.

If you would like to do a little more reading OP I suggest you read The Unspeakable Acts of Zina Pavlou by Elena Kyriacou.

An obvious typo. U is next to I on the keyboard.

Did that make you feel special? Good for you.

Derek Bentley
Timothy Evans
Mahmood Hussein Mattan
All wrongly executed.

Sally Clark, wrongly convicted of murder.

I don't support the death penalty but in this case I could make an exception...

Broke my heart reading that story. Poor wee mite .

I'd suggest in this case this man was just 100% evil. There's no redemption for someone who commits this kind of barbaric act.
I guess he has got a few years to deflect on his crime whilst trying to avoid his fellow inmates.

Sadly, retribution in prison is a myth, An actual prison officer is more likely to be hurt standing between him potential violent criminals.

Quite unbelievably staff do put their life on the line to protect these idiots. I don’t know why.

The prison system is in crisis and needs substantial reform - but cutting people's hands off is not a kind of 'reform' most civilised people would condone.

I think the death penalty for very extreme cases of mass murder, murder of babies and young children including through starving them and terrorist who bomb innocent victims is not unreasonable. The tax payer should not to have to pay to support these people and they are often very difficult prisoners. Prisons are full and dangerous prisoners often get released early only to reoffend.

The statistics prove otherwise. States that have the death penalty have higher murder rates. Of the ten countries with the lowest murder rate, only 2 have the death penalty. Of the ten countries with the highest murder rate, only 2 have the death penalty, including Jamaica which has the highest murder rate in the world.

Captial Punishment has been proven over and over again not to be a deterrent.

No, it does show how humans make mistakes though…

And?

It costs considerably more to put someone to death than it does to keep them in prison for life.

https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/

Er, what? Are you seriously comparing a wrongful conviction to a typo??

Because if officers don’t act fast to de-escalate then some other person will get hurt as well…. End up losing the wing that way.

No. That is not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting that anybody who reads the Daily Mail is unlikely to be reasonable enough to consider the complexities of capital punishment. It's not my fault if you've chosen to misunderstand me.

Oh dear, you are annoyed with yourself

There’s also the question of executioners. Do we really want to pay people to kill in our name?

You're being utterly absurd.