This is why we should bring back the death penalty

[bluewanda]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14918815/drug-addicted-cross-dresser-abused-lover-murder-son-hospital-ward.html

(One example of many.)

You can't have a 100% certainty in evidence because there are many cases where evidence has been manufactured by corrupt cops. CCTV evidence can be doctored. Mistakes can be made.

People have been imprisoned for a very long time for crimes they didn't commit because of corruption.

not in all cases but in very many of them, a person who grows up to commit heinous crime was likely to have been neglected as a child so their parents don't give a shit and were abusive towards them, they had no blue-print of how it would be to behave as a responsible contributing citizen in society. That's the problem!

All of this.

In addition, juries are less inclined to find a defendant guilty where the outcome might be the death penalty.

I don’t know much about prisons and how they are run but I do remember reading that we don’t have a lot of prisoners with whole life sentences, Rose West is one and apparently she has changed her name, carpeted her cell and spends her days reading and watching nature documentaries. I think if true it’s pretty shocking considering her crimes that she is living with any sort of comfort.

We don’t have a lot of prisoners serving whole life sentences because, thankfully, we don’t have many of the most appalling crimes that attract them.

And I don’t know how you choose to live, but a carpeted cupboard with an uncovered toilet in the corner and a nature documentary on a tiny telly isn’t what I call comfort.

Rapists, murderers, paedophile should all receive the death penalty. Why keep vile scum like those alive?

Because killing people is barbaric. Surely you agree with that?

Again. Because of the chance of miscarriage of justice

Multiple cases have already been mentioned here. Including a man who was hanged for the murder of his own child when he was innocent. He went to the gallows knowing that he was innocent and that the actual murderer was out there unpunished

Some may have been supportive but unfortunately not all, she was very much targeted by certain types of people.

The sad part of this case is the red flags were there. Yet hospital were unable to prevent his access to the baby :(

Death penalty after the fact would not have stopped him

Death penalty potentially kills innocent people and does not make the murderer reflect on their crime

Because you don't combat violence by normalising it.

Maybe we shouldn't lock people up either, because that just normalises people locking each other up?

Locking people up is not permanent. Death is

This.

Thank goodness we don’t have emotionally charged people dictating and deciding the law.

There is no place for the death penalty in a modern, civilised society.

Japan has the death penalty. Are they not a modern civilised society?

Huntley I think doesn't have a whole life order
Bellfield has two

They’re all of the above, with outdated, archaic practices that need reform.

The death penalty isn't about combating violence. It is about the ultimate punishment.

That's the point.

The problem with this case was that he couldn't be refused access to the baby because he had parental rights, despite the fact he was a known risk.

I might feel more sympathetic about the death penalty if it actually reduced the rate of murders, but it doesn't. And the baby would still be dead. IMO its better to prevent harm in the first place.

So you're not even going to pretend it is a deterrent? You just want to kill people.

It's disturbed not to want innocent people killed?

We covered Derek Bentley (a young man with severe learning difficulties who's execution contributed to the abolition of the death penalty) in English A Level. The way his statement was 'cleaned' to sound like an articulate adult.

If I'm disturbed for wanting no more Derek Bentleys or Jean Charles de Menezes, I'm OK with that. Human life doesn't stop being of value when someone turns 18.

And for those wrongly convicted? Just accept that innocent people may be put to death?

I don’t think anyone would miss this guy…

Well that’s a big fat lie. I know quite a few people right now in prison with phones and PlayStations. Dd speaks to her best friend everyday on Snapchat. Bless you thinking prison is hard and prisoners don’t have nothing.

Some people need killing.