To think there are very few allies against Anti-Semitism?

[Longingdreamer]

This month, I have had experienced Anti-Semitism twice. Both times I was with my children.

Both times, my children were distressed, and no one around did anything to protect us or raise the alarm. When we asked for help, we were dismissed. We were in very busy public spaces both times: a tube platform, then a high street.

I reported the first episode to the police. I'm not even sure if it's worth reporting the second episode. Sadly it feels so mainstream, and the authorities are not supportive when I report it either.

I know. My son in law is Jewish. My Jewish friends oppose the genocide.

Thank you. Allies are so important now, more than ever.

They’re obliged to do nothing unfortunately. They cannot risk their own necks for someone else. Especially in the example of rival gang members looking to murder. At least in that instance, they may bring BTP into it. I’m really frustrated they don’t help you though. Absolutely disgraceful.

You have zero basis for this assertion and need to educate yourself.

I wasn’t saying it was acceptable. It is not acceptable for any threat to personal safety to be ignored, and if personal threats of death have been made against person, especially one with children, that is obviously disgusting.

My point was that you weren’t treated any differently than many others who are not Jewish would have been.

OP I'm so sorry. I'm an ally, and I'm horrified by its rise in the UK and more broadly in the West.
I also find the excuses and justifications for it really unpleasant, sadly including on this thread.

Won't there be video evidence of the incident?Hope you get some help with that,
sounds horrendous.

That's not the case, because I have witnessed a case where a woman was in danger on the tube, and I helped her and brought her to tfl staff, who put her in a room which was safe away from the public. I have seen that assistance is offered in a different situation.

Yes, there is CCTV!

Me too. And I’m sorry OP

So sorry this happened to you OP. I'm not Jewish but will be travelling to the March Against Anti-Semitism in September. I know from speaking to friends and acquaintances that there are many more people who are appalled by what they have seen since October 7th in terms of anti-Semitism.

Thank you

Could you report the Incident to customer services. Ask them to train staff accordingly. Might help future people.

It's good that they did that for her, but troubling that wasn't your personal experience.

I have made a complaint and asked for training. Tfl has not seen any fault in the actions of their staff. I am escalating my complaint.

Yep, immigrants and refugees also don’t typically report attacks.

The British left defines the word "Zionism" differently from most of the rest of the world. It is very unhelpful.

Outside of the British Left
a Zionist is, broadly, someone who believes in the continued existence of Israel.

That's awful OP.
Did the station staff not do anything? They must have loads of CCTV. I bet the police investigation is half arsed at best.
Despite this, do please report the other incident even so it just appears in reporting statistics.
Are you white OP? The reason I ask is that I can well believe Jews are the most targeted group for racism at the moment, but it's treated with a shoulder shrug. There is very much a view though that white people cannot be victims of racism. I've been on courses and been told this and if often repeated on MN. When I raised the experience of Jewish people and travellers I've been told that prejudice not racism, (so obviously not nearly as bad - my addition).

Loads of CCTV around. It's scary that these people still feel emboldened in this scenario: they know nothing will be done.

Station staff did absolutely nothing, in fact worse than nothing (by sending us into the path of the perpetrators again).

Jews being 'white' is a nuanced discussion. The people who care most about who is 'white' (white supremacists, Nazis) do not consider us to be white. No one would look at my children and I and consider us to me Northern European. My children have been mistaken for being North African based on their looks. It depends on your definition of what is white.

Dianne Abbott and her Anti-semitic comments have been very unhelpful, but sadly represent what a lot of people think. We are 'Schrodinger's white': both white enough to be considered to benefit from white privilege, and for people not to take Anti-Semitism seriously, but not white enough to not suffer from racism from white supremacists.

One of the busiest modes of public transport, CCTV and a police force and still they won't act on racism. Shocking.

There’s gangs of thugs in Canary Wharf shouting abuse at the moment because refugees are being housed there. There was appalling behaviour during the riots following the murders in Southport. Prejudice in general appears to be on the rise.

I'm happy to read this, because I feel a little less alone!

I was delighted when Corbyn won the leadership election and originally brushed off the anti-semitism allegations but, for me, they became undeniable.

The British Left has a massive blind spot when it comes to antisemitism which, ironically, also makes many of them/us bad at Palestinian solidarity.

There are definitely fewer allies than before @Longingdreamer.

I agree. The Corbyn years made it impossible for me to support Labour.

I get the impression that as well as not making you physically safe, they didn’t really show any compassion either. That would be just as disappointing and depressing for me.