To think there are very few allies against Anti-Semitism?

[Longingdreamer]

This month, I have had experienced Anti-Semitism twice. Both times I was with my children.

Both times, my children were distressed, and no one around did anything to protect us or raise the alarm. When we asked for help, we were dismissed. We were in very busy public spaces both times: a tube platform, then a high street.

I reported the first episode to the police. I'm not even sure if it's worth reporting the second episode. Sadly it feels so mainstream, and the authorities are not supportive when I report it either.

So who does say that? I mean outside of maybe Netanyahu (who it's got to be said may have a slight agenda), it's not something I've heard, from fellow Jews or anyone else. Imo it's an urban myth that many have seized on because it excuses their anti Jewish racism.

That is a pretty good summary really. I despair at all the discussion about Israel, as it's irrelevant to why a Jewish family would experience Anti-Semitism in the UK. It screams of trying to justify and minimise Anti-Semitism. There are indeed few allies.

Hostages are the only leverage Hamas has.

Israel also holds thousands of Palestinians including children who have not been given a trial.

Furthermore, it’s pretty clear that Israel is holding the entire Palestinian population hostage by trapping them in Gaza and the West Bank, blockading aid, food and medicine. A whole population held hostage.

None of what I have written is in any way antisemitic by the way.

Nailed it

Agreed.

There was also the: this didn't happen, you're a liar.

Also the refusal to acknowledge Anti-Semitism, or the statistics related to it. Subtext being: all Jews are liars.

Finally, the constant claim that another group experiences worse racism, in an attempt to minimise Anti-Semitism.

"I'm sorry if you imagine you may have been the victim of race hatred. Can you provide us with forensic detail so we can disprove your experience?"

Cannot imagine why your post was deleted! Utter mystery.

Is Egypt trapping them in Gaza too?

How is this relevant to a discussion of antisemitism in the UK?

Agreed, but people just can't stop. They don't see the issue with holding Jews collectively responsible either, and that is Anti-Semitism.

I think it’s unfair to pick on that poster, the thread was derailed hundreds of posts ago.

I think OP would have been better off asking for the thread to be solely about anti-Semitism in the UK. She has engaged in lots of discussion about Israel/Palestine herself on the thread.

You should read the thread.

That post was one example, of the many.

I have repeatedly asked for this not to be derailed. You have very selective reading. I am asking again for the same.

You’ve only asked those you disagree with not to derail.

Therefore only Jewish people need contribute to this post as only they will be able to tell you whether or not there are fewer allies against antisemitism.

What a revolting post. Morally bankrupt.

I give up with you. I asked repeatedly for it not to be derailed.

You clearly have an agenda. The reality is of course I cannot control other posters.

You are still failing to see how holding Jews collectively responsible is in itself Anti-Semitic. Please reflect on that.

You are still failing to see how holding Jews collectively responsible is in itself Anti-Semitic. Please reflect on that.

I have not once stated or implied this view, because it’s a view I categorically do not subscribe to. No one should be subjected to anti-Semitic abuse.

My point is that you have not asked any of the posters defending Israel’s actions not to derail the thread. That is entirely different.

I have repeatedly asked for the thread not to be derailed, you seem to have been selective in your reading. You are also seeking to blame me for other posters derailing the thread.

If you are an ally, you are doing an incredibly poor job of showing it.

You've got a staunch ally here. People seem to forget the atrocities caused by Hamas, which are a terrorost group.

I caught a bit off Sky news on the matter and their biased reporting was breath taking. No wonder people's brains are full of mush with the tripe mainstream media pump out.

What do you want an ally of anti- semitism to look like. If I saw a young Jewish women with kids getting harassed, because I can’t stand bullying and I’m not easily intimidated I’d more than likely step in . I gave an example where I did conflate what is going on in Israel with a Jewish couple in describing my over smiling at them. I recognised what I was doing and gave my head a wobble. I live in Hackney and have lived, worked for and was brought up around the biggest Orthodox Jewish community in the Uk. I am not anti - semitic.

I will never forget the atrocities carried out by Hamas OR The Israeli govt.
I will also never stand by and watch a woman and children being verbally abused in public due to their religion or ethnicity without trying to help.

Yes I have and I've been utterly unsurprised. BritishJews being held accountable for the actions of a far right zealot who's desperate to retain power to stave off an inevitable prosecution shocker. The "go home" thing was a bit unexpected but I guess we'd better get used to it.

Why don't you actually read the thread rather than posting useless comments?