Thread 10: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - No saltiness. Keep to the path. Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for nine very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

Keep calm and eat fudge.

Thank you

Completely agree. Even if the events involving other people are presented slightly differently or if pseudonyms are used to protect other people’s identities, the publishers should at least have solid evidence of the events actually happening.

It's not my medical opinion as I haven't medically examined him, and you'd do more than watch a few steps if you're examining someone's gait medically.

So my lay opinion, bounded by common sense, is that he looks to be walking pretty normally, and certainly not with any problems as mentioned by JI!

NB: the beginning of The One Show interview perhaps where she states ‘allow me first to take you back to the start’. Easier to keep control of narrative, perhaps (?)

Threads are like buses and taxis when you're waiting by a long distance path with your arm around a headless Simon Armitage cardboard cut out and pockets full of contraband fudge: none for ages and then they all come along at once.

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As usual, don't forget to fill up this thread before taking the fork in the salty path to the next.

Presumptuously, it would probably be a good idea for one pp to repost the link to Thread 11 during the last 5 or so posts so that it can be easily found.

Thank you @DisappointedReader

"A few replies, perhaps"......

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@AldoGordo Things are disappearing - it is funny that on the Wiki page re: Plas yn Rhiw, The original quote from Tim, about being organic, has disappeared twice. The link to the quote is still referenced in the notes.

Is there a good way of keeping a list of these things disappearing. Earlier someone was regretting that an interview has been taken down.

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I can imagine the Walkers, or reps, on here, following us around as we find things out, then trying to get anything that isn't their official narrative removed, if they can.

Mistakes were made! Off to comfort eat some fudge.

The original quote from Tim, about being organic, has disappeared twice. The link to the quote is still referenced in the notes.

@TheBrandyPath probably another porky. It's quite a serious business claiming to be organic - you have to do it with proper certification. I have friends who farm organically as part of their business but have it on none of their literature because you have to be officially certified, and they haven't done so. I don't suppose such a process would bother the Walkers. If they said something was organic then of course it was!

Maybe because one of the other is in Cornwall!

It's the only organic National Trust garden in Wales, and one of only three throughout England and Wales - although the other two, Trengwainton, near Penzance, and Snowshill Manor, in Gloucestershire, "haven't got the same pedigree as Plas", according to current head gardener Tim Walker.

From what I remember, certification is expensive and onerous. It may be worth it if you can make the most of the premium you get from it. A local farm was organic for many years, then dropped it when the premium for organic flattened, and have recently been recertified.

@FurryHappyKittens , re SW family tree - I've only had a quick glance, you've obviously done a lot more than I have, but I can see that her maternal grandparents married in Notts. I can't see a birth in Notts for her maternal grandmother Maggie, but I can see a possible in Scotland (right age, name, father). Does this bear out what you've found?

If so then it's amusing that SWs greatgrandmother was Isabella, adding to the family connections with Izzy Wyn Thomas.

No, the censuses she's on with her husband suggest she was born in Lancashire.

Yes, I've given myself another 30 seconds to check and discovered that! Shame, I liked the Isabella connection!

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Maybe she did the same...

It hasn't been mentioned yet but I think some people get a buzz out of lying / stealing, maybe they got addicted to that feeling?

I don't think Grant and Bill Cole are the same person. If indeed Grant is an actual person.

Nor do I. This was about a photo of RW taken in an orchard.

Let's be honest, that orchard could have been anywhere! And anytime!

It wouldn't surprise me if they went wandering about places when she started the book and took photos to match up.

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I think the longer they did it, and never got rumbled, then on they went, eventually believing they'd never meet any consequences.

The people involved had been silenced (NDA), and then died.

Who would believe Ros Hemmings if she piped up without a newspaper behind her.

Totally agree with this - especially with your point about credibility without the support of the media.

The radio programme I was listening to said that there are advantages in deception but not many benefits in exposing someone as a liar.

Exposure doesn’t necessarily have ‘benefits’ as such, and it comes with risks, but it’s ultimately beneficial for the people who’ve been wronged by the person who has lied and also for the people who the liar may have been lining up as future victims.