Thread 10: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
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3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video
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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - No saltiness. Keep to the path. Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for nine very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

Keep calm and eat fudge.

Thank you

Maybe because there’s a chance that anything they own could be taken off them to recover any debts they still owe. I’m not sure if they still owe any debts, especially because the statute of limitations for fraud (ie RW’s embezzlement) is six years. But on the off-chance that they do owe money to people, I think their assets could be used to repay those debts.

I don’t think she would’ve stayed with him if he was a Young Tory!

I see what you’re saying, but isn’t the fourth book already written though - and unlikely to be published? It’s unlikely they’ll be publishing any new books any time soon.

I wonder whether the owner of the current place will be happy with how he finds things and how the landlord-tenant relationship has been, when they do move out - unlike Bill Cole of the cider farm. I wonder how the current landlord feels now after the Observer reports and all the press attention in Cornwall. He might have choked on his toast reading a negative report about his famous tenants in the Telegraph one morning.

I also wonder how they came to be living there. Did they find it on the rental market and are paying full whack, or did it fall into their laps through TSP industry like the cider farm did?

With the change in the wind, it begs the question how long they will stay there. It wouldn't surprise me if they moved abroad, although if they can continue to live in isolated comfort and splendour in the same country as their adult children, perhaps they will do that for as long as possible. It certainly seems to be a rather nice spot to sit things out until it becomes clear how much of this dust will settle and how much of TSP brand is salvageable.

A quick Google search suggests that if a claimant gets a County Court judgment against someone, the ability to enforce the judgment debt usually lapses after 6 years - but that it may be possible to get an extension in some circumstances (e.g. concealment). No idea whether that legal analysis is correct or has any relevance to the author.

Politics and principles can become surprisingly fluid when it comes to hormones!

@BeardofHagrid I don’t read the Private Eye, but @Iwrotesomething kindly posted photos of last week’s diary, which mentioned them and was brilliant 😂 do you know if this is the same column, or a follow-up instalment? If it’s a follow-up, would you mind posting photos of it here please?

I doubt that very much. Would they want to be that close to extended family if estranged? The recent press attention in that area of France, comments from locals and lack of privacy? Unless they hire someone to renovate it for them to sell on at a profit, let's hope they do sell it to someone who would appreciate it rather than leaving it to 'rewild'!

Have people hear read The Wild Silence? Is that the one with the Iceland walk? Did they do it in winter?

I have just read a piece in the Herald Scotland where the Iceland walk is named as the Laugavegur trail. I looked it up as I did the Landmannalauger trail in Iceland in the summer of 2014. What I know as the Landmannalaugar trail (Landmannalaugur is the name of where you start) is the Laugavegur trail. So I think I walked the same trail. And it isn’t open in winter.

if anyone has a copy of TWS which places on the hike does it mention?

It was me who knew where the walkers were living, and whose friend booted reporters and their long lenses off his land.
it does fit the description well, tho I am unsure of the acreage. But there is a river, and probably a private beach / landing, and a very nice house.

I was being ironic!😃

I disagree that their reputation is salvagable, and I very much hope not.

To me, their dissembling, silence, and hiding only underscores the accuracy of the allegations, and their guilt; and their attempts to evade accountability and blame others, even now, are wholly contemptible.

Many specific individuals have been wronged, and the public at large deceived and profited from, and we all deserve a full and truthful accounting.

I can remember family friends had a party line, shared with another unknown local household. If one of them picked up the phone to make a call they could hear the other person's conversation! You had to watch out carefully for the sound of the click which told you the call was now being listened to by the other holder of the party line. A snooper's charter!

I agree 100%.

The more time that elapses without a copy of the original 2013 CBD diagnosis being produced, the greater the suspicion will be that the diagnosis didn't occur until after TSP was completed and that one of the most important premises of TSP (that Moth has had a terminal illness diagnosed with possibly 2 years to live) was therefore a deliberate falsehood.

This is the Herald article I read. It includes nonsense about the registry office being closed for renovations so they were married in a shop. I take all that with a pinch of salt after the last weeks.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18714249.raynor-winn-life-salt-path/

I guessed that but wanted to roll with it! 😎

Hell hath no fury like a wo/man with a pigeonnier scorned...

I have no doubt the Walkers have been located - photographers and reporters all around the place in question for the past couple of weeks. Locals have confirmed. Daughter lives and works not far from the location too.
Very surprised they didn't do a flit when the story broke.
Landlord is a well known and well liked chap according to my trusted source (who is also an excellent judge of character).

Sorry I don't have a copy but from these threads I think the book says it was winter 2019. But IG posts suggest they went to Iceland in Feb 2017 (would that trail be open then?). It's still not clear if the earlier trip was the trip of TWS or if they went to Iceland twice.

Yes but you are sadly underestimating the number of those that are still brushing it all off with the " it's still a nice story" nonsense.

I remember in a previous thread something about Iceland and that they had been there other years and the trip might be based on that? (I think- it was a way back)

Another potential inconsistency is the fact they went to Iceland in winter. Isn't it rather cold there in winter? Yet SW talks of the cold being something that appears to exacerbate TW symptoms in TSP, which is one reason why they decided to stop the walk to stay at Polly's. So why on Earth would it seem like a good idea to walk in Iceland in winter? I don't know what the TWS says about their choices for going there, so if anyone has read it, please share!

A chicken shop with an unstable roof?

WHEN TO HIKE LAUGAVEGUR?Due to the unpredictable weather in the region, the Laugavegur trail is only open from late June to mid September. The exact dates are dependent on the weather, and also on Iceland’s Road Authority. The trailhead, and some of the huts along the route, are accessed by gravel F-roads (roads that access the highlands of Iceland), which are closed during the winter months when conditions are too dangerous for driving.
Source: https://www.muchbetteradventures.com/magazine/a-guide-to-walking-the-laugavegur-trail/

I walked it in July and still had to hike over a short ice field at one point. In winter you would need crampons as it’s hilly. As you can see from the photos in the link it’s a very remote location, you don’t pass through villages or have proper roads there. There are a few huts at the campsites and nothing else.

I also hiked it with a group as part of a charity hike so we didn’t have to carry our own tents or food. Our 4WD support vehicle took them from camp to camp and set up the dining tent and cooked for us like a cold, wet (lots of rain) version of Out of Africa! We did carry our clothes, water and snacks for the day and had to put our sleeping tents up on arrival at camp. For a sick man to do that hike in winter with no back up so carrying warm clothes, tent, several days food etc? No way that happened. There is one point you have to go down a steep slope clinging to a rope and there were several river crossings where we had to take your boots off and on one we had to link arms to be sure the current wouldn’t knock us over into the freezing cold water which was glacial run off. Obviously the glaciers wouldn’t be melting in winter but that walk would be seriously dangerous in winter. Which is why it’s only open three months a year.

Also in July we seemed to have near constant daylight. I never saw it be dark although there may have been a couple of hours during the night. So in winter it would be very very short days. You couldn’t walk around there in darkness!

In light of their current habitat, I was thinking back in the mists of time to when the shiny Raynor Winn website was up and running apart from just with her rebuttal statement. She was teasing her new residential wellness retreat coming in the Spring. I wonder if the current abode was/is the planned venue for that? More importantly, was she using Moth's miraculous walking recovery involving long survival beyond the 2 months/2 years claimed and newly clear brain scan to hook people into it? The thought of hopeful, trusting people, perhaps with CBD and similar conditions, paying to join such a retreat makes me both sad and angry.

I sincerely hope that plan doesn't go ahead . The amount of damage that could do to vulnerable people would be utterly immoral.