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Thread 10: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 23/07/2025 21:20

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found
3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video
4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn
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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - No saltiness. Keep to the path. Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for nine very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

Keep calm and eat fudge.

Thank you

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FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 14:16

GogleddCymru · 26/07/2025 14:12

Possibly - but I've never heard or seen him referred to as 'Moth Walker'.

Yes, but we’ve only just found out their real names — what I meant was that, other than a comment or so somewhere about Moth being a nickname, no one other than those who knew them had any reason to think, before the Observer story broke, that Raynor Winn was a pseudonym. Didn’t they therefore just assume the two shared a surname? So it’s not that Moth adopted Raynor’s pseudonymous surname, just that journalists referred to them as ‘the Winns’…?

User14March · 26/07/2025 14:47

gattocattivo · 26/07/2025 13:48

funny though that RW makes a big thing of him being garrulous and always having a story for his audience.

I wonder whether he’s changed and now presents this more reserved face in public (similarly RW apparently always sticks to the script in interviews and repeats things verbatim.) I suppose if there are huge great secrets they wanted to keep covered up, it’s easier to do that by saying little and keeping to the exact same story. As I’ve said in previous threads, on some level even if subconsciously, it seems an enormous burden to carry. Most people would feel incredibly anxious and on edge to have become so well known (and well off) on the back of something downright dodgy (and criminal if the allegations are correct.) It must be like a house of cards - looking very impressive but in danger of collapsing any moment.

Yes, it feels contrived that way to me. Jason Issac’s is genuinely stunned by Moth’s cameo on The One Show & the bread-crumbing heightens his star power. He seems to serve any chance of being put under microscope, carefully timed shopping trips etc. Caveated with he is unwell & this may be a factor in the fewer public appearances & lack of limelight too.

User14March · 26/07/2025 14:48

*swerve not serve

Toomuchstufff · 26/07/2025 15:22

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 14:04

But does Moth use the name Winn? Isn’t it just that journalists, assuming for whatever reason that Winn was Raynor’s marital surname, assumed that it was therefore also Moth’s?

He used Moth Winn to run the marathon.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 15:24

Catwith69lives · 26/07/2025 12:46

I don't have any problems with her pseudonym (Raynor Winn). A lot more memorable and marketable than Sally Walker? If John Le Carre (aka David Cornwell) was a case in point.

Edited

It's also hugely problematic that she signed to be a trustee /director of Emmaus using her Pseudonym

Orangesandlemons77 · 26/07/2025 15:49

I noticed this on the Emmaus website

https://emmaus.org.uk/cornwall/raynor-winn-in-conversation/

also

https://emmaus.org.uk/cornwall/a-million-for-emmaus/

"Fellow Emmaus Cornwall trustee and author, Raynor Winn, walked the South West Coastal Path with her husband after becoming homeless. Her experience later inspired her bestselling memoir, The Salt Path. Raynor is encouraging people to walk for Emmaus to help those who walk because they have to and said:
“Homeless people often walk many miles per day out of necessity – in search of shelter, or food, or simply because it’s safer to keep moving than to remain stationary. A Million for Emmaus is asking us to walk to raise money to create the first Emmaus community in Cornwall. To walk because we can, to help those who walk because they have to.
“Not only that, but we get to appreciate all the amazing health benefits that come from walking. So, take that first step towards your million in June, alone, with the dog, with friends – however you like to walk, and start a summer to remember.”

Raynor Winn in conversation with Cathy Rentzenbrink

An exclusive livestream event in aid of Emmaus Cornwall

https://emmaus.org.uk/cornwall/raynor-winn-in-conversation/

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:15

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 15:24

It's also hugely problematic that she signed to be a trustee /director of Emmaus using her Pseudonym

But again, do we know this? If she’s known as a spokesperson on homelessness by her pseudonym, it would make sense for her to be named by that name on a homelessness charity website, especially if it’s a matter of raising awareness, and obviously they would use it for fundraising events.

(Obviously, her credibility as a spokesperson homeless is in doubt now…)

mycatismyworld · 26/07/2025 16:30

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:15

But again, do we know this? If she’s known as a spokesperson on homelessness by her pseudonym, it would make sense for her to be named by that name on a homelessness charity website, especially if it’s a matter of raising awareness, and obviously they would use it for fundraising events.

(Obviously, her credibility as a spokesperson homeless is in doubt now…)

She is no longer a director with this charity

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:35

mycatismyworld · 26/07/2025 16:30

She is no longer a director with this charity

I’m sure not. I’m just saying that I wouldn’t necessarily view the use of her nom de plume in these scenarios as indicating ill intent — if you’re known by that name for a best-selling book that makes you an obvious person to have as a fundraiser/trustee/awareness raiser for a medical condition or a homelessness charity, it would seem to me obvious to keep using that name for charity purposes. (And maybe mentally see it as an attempt to rectify earlier wrongs…?)

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 16:37

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:15

But again, do we know this? If she’s known as a spokesperson on homelessness by her pseudonym, it would make sense for her to be named by that name on a homelessness charity website, especially if it’s a matter of raising awareness, and obviously they would use it for fundraising events.

(Obviously, her credibility as a spokesperson homeless is in doubt now…)

Yes, she was registered on companies house as their director /trustee with the name Raynor Winn. And she only lasted 1 year as a director /trustee which is very unusual.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 16:39

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:35

I’m sure not. I’m just saying that I wouldn’t necessarily view the use of her nom de plume in these scenarios as indicating ill intent — if you’re known by that name for a best-selling book that makes you an obvious person to have as a fundraiser/trustee/awareness raiser for a medical condition or a homelessness charity, it would seem to me obvious to keep using that name for charity purposes. (And maybe mentally see it as an attempt to rectify earlier wrongs…?)

Not for giving your name as a company director though. You are mean to give your actual name. This isn't marketing fluff it's a legal responsibility

LeaAndDer · 26/07/2025 16:43

Anyone who becomes Moth is suspect.

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:44

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 16:39

Not for giving your name as a company director though. You are mean to give your actual name. This isn't marketing fluff it's a legal responsibility

Might she have legally changed her name?

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:45

LeaAndDer · 26/07/2025 16:43

Anyone who becomes Moth is suspect.

I know a perfectly ordinary Moth in his early 20s. One of his childhood friends has a problem pronouncing ‘th’ so he’s often ‘Moss’ or ‘Mossy’.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 16:46

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:44

Might she have legally changed her name?

Well she also has a company where she and Tim and their children are registered as directors and she uses her Sally Walker name for that one. They can't both be her real name

LeaAndDer · 26/07/2025 16:48

She had a Fantasy-prone personality

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 17:01

Aspanielstolemysanity · 26/07/2025 16:46

Well she also has a company where she and Tim and their children are registered as directors and she uses her Sally Walker name for that one. They can't both be her real name

If you change your name via deed poll or on marriage (or divorce), would you then be required to alter the name you’re registered under at Companies House?

Raynor Winn is a much better name than Sally Walker, admittedly.

Wonderl4nd · 26/07/2025 17:48

Did anyone see the Penguin CEO statement re TSP about "nothing wrong with their robust checking and legal procedures" or something to that effect? Of course that doesn’t mean that RW hasn't signed for factual accuracy when there are actual factual inaccuracies. It just means Penguin believe they themselves are not at fault.

Speagle · 26/07/2025 19:59

More than 2 hours without anyone posting!!
I still feel let down by it all and am much more wary of trusting people now.

TheBrandyPath · 26/07/2025 20:10

Speagle · 26/07/2025 19:59

More than 2 hours without anyone posting!!
I still feel let down by it all and am much more wary of trusting people now.

I am very sorry to hear that. It was a beautifully packaged book and well-marketed. I love reading but I'm afraid publishing is a very cut and thrust industry. Here's what the CEO of Penguin, Tom Weldon, says about himself:

I am a gambler and publishing is all about taking risks. I am fascinated by the business of publishing – submitting ideas and creativity to the discipline of commercial scrutiny. And I enjoy doing work with a real purpose – books really do help to change people’s lives.

FurryHappyKittens · 26/07/2025 21:16

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 16:15

But again, do we know this? If she’s known as a spokesperson on homelessness by her pseudonym, it would make sense for her to be named by that name on a homelessness charity website, especially if it’s a matter of raising awareness, and obviously they would use it for fundraising events.

(Obviously, her credibility as a spokesperson homeless is in doubt now…)

Authors having pseudonyms is pretty common.

Husbands taking on the pseudonym's last name less so.She was named on Companies House using her pseudonym.

FurryHappyKittens · 26/07/2025 21:21

FightingTemeraire · 26/07/2025 17:01

If you change your name via deed poll or on marriage (or divorce), would you then be required to alter the name you’re registered under at Companies House?

Raynor Winn is a much better name than Sally Walker, admittedly.

She hasn't changed her name by Deed Poll, she's still Sally Walker.

Catwith69lives · 26/07/2025 21:25

Not getting my hopes up too much about further revelations in tomorrow's Observer

Tomorrow's Papers Today - UK Front Pages - Latest Newspaper Headlines

mauvishagain · 26/07/2025 21:39

Speagle · 26/07/2025 19:59

More than 2 hours without anyone posting!!
I still feel let down by it all and am much more wary of trusting people now.

I'm saving myself for Monday!

TheBrandyPath · 26/07/2025 22:00

Toomuchstufff · 26/07/2025 15:22

He used Moth Winn to run the marathon.

I agree with this. I don't think the BBC assume partners use the same surname. It was fine for them to be Sal and Tim in Polruan. When their names were to be published they used assumed names. It was not just a nom de plume - even she put them together in this: Like most, we use these nicknames alongside our legal names.

We know that Tim was happy to be Tim Walker the head gardener, previously! Co-workers called him - Tim.

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