Thread 10: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - No saltiness. Keep to the path. Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for nine very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

Keep calm and eat fudge.

Thank you

I entered these extracts into ChatGPT out of interest and didn't say it was a reliable analysis hence "I know ChatGPT isn't gospel." It occasionally comes up with interesting angles and things that I hadn't thought of. The extract is five paragraphs of dramatic writing about the hail, the wind, anguish, the sea... Getting a bit frothy

I'm not sure a flat cap signifies much!!

I'm not suggesting it does, only that, while we get quite a lot about Raynor's own rather strict parents and her sheltered upbringing (she's never been on a train before we meets Moth, and she's never been away from her parents overnight until they go camping in Scotland), we get nothing at all about Moth's. But nothing indicates signs of particular wealth at this point.

@MarianGrotto I didn't know there was all that background. I was talking about the style - as in the photo (shared previously) of the honeymoon. She looked like Diana, only pigs instead of sheep, and he was quite Young Fogey.

Very interesting. Jason says (of the CBD diagnosis)

"He'd fallen through the roof of a barn — they were farmers — and the doctor said, “Oh no, it's not arthritis. It's a fatal neurological condition, and you don't have very long to live. You should go home and start making a plan and say goodbye to people. Be careful on the stairs.”

Is this what Moth told Jason during their chats?

Not sure it can be lantic bay. It’s a very steep climb down to that beach. No dunes like the photo

Convictions for what??

Also, that doesn’t tie in with him living at home and dad being close enough to give them a lift to the train. Is she just making stuff up if she goes away from reciting her own printed words??

She describes him getting ready to go on that first camping trip to Scotland as follows:

Moth plaited his hair, put his ragged waistcoat on over his collarless shirt and tweed cropped trousers, laced his walking boots and we were ready

Assuming the 'tweed cropped trousers' are in fact the same shorts he is wearing several years later on their honeymoon, it seems to have been a signature look for him.

His dad was a plasterer/ maintenance man,like Martyn.

I hadn't heard that. Interesting. The impression she gives in TWS is certainly of him living at home, just as she was. And that her parents had his parents' phone number, because Moth's dad wants to know what he should say if they phone when Moth and she are away (because Raynor is supposed to be on holiday with the entire family in Scotland) -- which suggests some kind of stability in the arrangement.

You are right - the rock fooled me. I think I'll stick with what Moth wears, Jason's captivation, etc....

Yes, I think so. He also spoke about his disabilities including intermittent incontinence. It’s no wonder Jason was really impressed & blown away. These sort of things make your own problems look very first world.

I’ve just skimmed through my copy of TSP (which says it was published in 2019), and couldn’t find any reference in it to the Moth-real-name-Ray thing. Perhaps it was only included in an earlier edition.

NB: doesn’t the daughter also fall through the roof of a building?

'He'd fallen through the roof of a barn - they were farmers' - as one does routinely as a farmer!

Yes, the deeply weird ‘vegan trapped in a chicken shop’ story.

Only in a fictional metaphorical sense when RW wrote an article imagining why her daughter hadn't phoned her in 3 days during covid lockdown. Wasn't meant as literal.

Yes, she does in an article that RW wrote during lockdown. @SpiceRoad linked to the article in Thread 6, but I’ve just clicked on the link and can’t find the article on there anymore: https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/135080/raynor-winn.

Public order offences from his eco protest days?

Good suggestion, though I can imagine RW might have specified if that were the case, as it would fit the image.

True.

I want to say ‘Shoplifting, obviously!’ only surely she’d have let him be the fudge thief if he had previous form? 😀

Consultants can be quite matter of fact in their delivery of bad news but unless you are at the very end stage of terminal illness I do not believe anyone would be told to " go home and prepare to say goodbye". It is sentimental tosh.

And emotional manipulation