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Maintenance Payments Ending

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Hula0565890 · 23/07/2025 19:04

The spousal and child maintenance payments between me and my ex are due to end in September as per the court order. From Oct all costs of our kids will then be shared evenly between us.

My ex earns at least 3 times the amount I currently do. AIBU to ask if they will be willing to split the costs more than 50/50 in light of this, appreciating this cannot be enforced?

OP posts:
Pinkissmart · 24/07/2025 11:07

Are they moving out for uni?

Are they getting loans?

When mine went to university, they got full loans because I had a low income. Their dad gave them some money directly- more like pocket money, but still helped.

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 11:10

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 10:57

Your OP only refers to "earnings", and we've established that plenty of people receiving benefits refer to them as their "earnings".

What are you doing to maximise your earnings? Are you or will you be living beyond your means when spousal maintenance stops? What have you been doing to save money for DC for university, given that you've had years of maintenance payments?

If DC have a good relationship with DF, there's no reason they can't ask him to help them through university in the same way as any other parent would do. The issue of you no longer receiving that 50% of their living costs is yours; they are adults and can contribute to your household from their own funds, or you can continue to provide their home as your 50% contribution, while their DF pays his 50% direct to them for their university costs.

Differences in income between the pair of you shouldn't come in to it; DC costs are X amount and you both pay towards them.

Well thats nonsense.
children should not be living the life of a millionaire half the time with their one parent and then on bread and water with the second.

Helpmeplease2025 · 24/07/2025 11:15

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 11:10

Well thats nonsense.
children should not be living the life of a millionaire half the time with their one parent and then on bread and water with the second.

Longterm, you think the a higher earning parent has to make the other parent’s household income equal? Thankfully the courts do not agree with this these days. That’s why homes are sold, proceeds split and spousal is minimal. Both parents should be maximising their own earnings.

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 11:20

Helpmeplease2025 · 24/07/2025 11:15

Longterm, you think the a higher earning parent has to make the other parent’s household income equal? Thankfully the courts do not agree with this these days. That’s why homes are sold, proceeds split and spousal is minimal. Both parents should be maximising their own earnings.

I think until the children are no longer financially reliant on the parents it’s entirely reasonable yes.
And the court to do often agree with that stance.
Most people don’t pursue it though, but they should

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 11:22

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 10:54

Which is where my comment about the judge came in to play
The OP I believe can get yourself back to court ASAP and ask a judge to amend the original order.
The fact that you had one in the first place means the precedent has been set in terms of support and might well help going forward
But as I say it very much depends what the judge has had for breakfast

I was responding to @Praying4Peace who stated that OP was "still entitled to 50pc", which she is not, due to DC leaving education and moving to HE.

MascaraGirl · 24/07/2025 11:23

Helpmeplease2025 · 24/07/2025 11:15

Longterm, you think the a higher earning parent has to make the other parent’s household income equal? Thankfully the courts do not agree with this these days. That’s why homes are sold, proceeds split and spousal is minimal. Both parents should be maximising their own earnings.

I think that's what a clean break is all about? If you want to benefit from your partners high earnings, don't divorce him. It would be very difficult to achieve parity across households, post-split, when people get new partners etc. And don't forget the finances of the pre-split household have to fund 2 homes.

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 11:26

Clean brakes were introduced on the basis that the child maintenance service would be effective and frankly it isn’t
But equally I strongly suspect the OP like many of us did not bring children into the world expecting that they would just fuck them off financially when they hit 18. Nor that the cost of university would escalate at the rate it has
The system is flawed

KarmenPQZ · 24/07/2025 11:29

Are they going to uni in September and none of the 4 of you have raised how this will be funded?

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 11:30

yakkity · 23/07/2025 23:00

Student finance is affected by parental income. The higher the parents earn the less the student can get. Why? Because it is expected that parents contribute. Only a complete arsehole parent who hopes for no relationship with their adult children wouldn’t.

They are only assessed on RP income, so DF earning "three times as much" doesn't come in to it.

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 11:36

Daygloboo · 24/07/2025 00:59

Just a general comment but I find it impossible to believe that a man earning three times as much as you wouldn't be willing to pay decent money to help his own children. What kind of human being would do that. Whatever kind of man would spend all the money on himself and not his children. You'd really have to be pondlife to do that. Or if they are now adults and couldn't get s job and claimed benefits so that society pays for his children instead of him. Surely that would be a joke. ????

Doesn't it also depend on what "three times as much" actually is? If OP works p/t on £15k and exDH earns £45k, paying 50/50+spousal maintenance and OP retained the family home, when exactly does exDH have a chance to be allowed to buy a house or have some cash? OTOH if she's earning £50k and he's on £150k, he can probably pay some direct to DC, as can OP.

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 11:46

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 10:15

No, it’s not understandable at all even if that was the case but actually there was no equity in the property. He just wanted his name off the Mortgage so that he could put his name on the new Mortgage with the new woman.
And guess what? Five years later he still hasn’t.
oh, and we have a 15 year-old so Housing him should’ve been a priority for the courts but it wasn’t. It isn’t.

Edited

If you could afford it, why not just take on the mortgage and keep the house?

SilverHammer · 24/07/2025 11:53

Hula0565890 · 23/07/2025 22:33

Why the fixation on if I work? My op states that I do clearly. But my point is I don't earn as much as my ex, hence my testing the question.

Thanks for all replies.

Maybe phrase it more like 'I am wondering how much you can contribute to the twins' living expenses etc next year, so I know how much I need to budget'.

MascaraGirl · 24/07/2025 12:28

RandomMess · 23/07/2025 21:30

You are under no obligation to fund them at uni at all, they should be encouraged to go and stay with Dad for 50% of their holiday time.

Is it healthy to encourage young adults to have a contact schedule?

Daygloboo · 24/07/2025 13:20

BruFord · 24/07/2025 01:10

@Daygloboo You’d be surprised. A friend’s ex is constantly trying to wriggle out of CMS for his son, doesn’t pay a penny towards his daughter’s university expenses…yet he himself has a doctorate so clearly values education!

Some people are amazingly self-centered.

It's really shocking. Ppl like that need a reality check about what responsibility means. It's one thing if you are an unemployed struggling person through no fault of your own.....but a person with money not paying and expecting the rest of us to pick up the bill....that's wrong.

Blablibladirladada · 24/07/2025 17:55

I thought if they are in Uni then maintenance still goes but it can be paid to them directly.

Blablibladirladada · 24/07/2025 17:56

Just read I am wrong :/

how is that even possible?

GiveDogBone · 24/07/2025 18:02

YABU. Zero chance he will give extra because you ask. Frankly, I would assume he resents giving you any spousal support given you have a job and an income of your own.

Of course, the children (who are now adults) can ask him for extra help, and he might consider it, but only in the knowledge that you are contributing your fair share.

x2boys · 24/07/2025 18:02

Blablibladirladada · 24/07/2025 17:56

Just read I am wrong :/

how is that even possible?

Because they are adults and get jobs and loans

Idontgiveashitanymore · 24/07/2025 18:06

They need to get a job !

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 18:06

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 11:46

If you could afford it, why not just take on the mortgage and keep the house?

Because he refused to agree to it. So I then soent my 10% deposit on a lawyer fighting in court.
I was then proving to be correct. He did not do what he claimed he needed to do in court, to yhis day he hasn’t.
And I have bought a house of equal value but incurred stamp duty, removal costs etc. I wish there was an option to go back to court and say told you so

Iamgettingolderandgrumpier · 24/07/2025 18:07

T1Dmom · 23/07/2025 19:52

Yabu. Its their choice to go to uni.

Twins are now adults. Both of my DC got various loans and held down jobs while at university, as many students have to do now. One of my DC will pay off their loans in next few years but other DC reckons they’ll never pay theirs off. They see it as a ‘student-tax’ (Thanks Martin Lewis)
If you and ex are going to support them financially, yes you should share. Not your exes fault he earns more than you.

bumblecoach · 24/07/2025 18:07

Idontgiveashitanymore · 24/07/2025 18:06

They need to get a job !

What like all the other kids with parents earning over £165,000 🤣🤣🤣

Almostwelsh · 24/07/2025 18:15

usernamealreadytaken · 24/07/2025 11:36

Doesn't it also depend on what "three times as much" actually is? If OP works p/t on £15k and exDH earns £45k, paying 50/50+spousal maintenance and OP retained the family home, when exactly does exDH have a chance to be allowed to buy a house or have some cash? OTOH if she's earning £50k and he's on £150k, he can probably pay some direct to DC, as can OP.

If he earns 45k there is no way he would be ordered to pay spousal.

Lollylucyclark101 · 24/07/2025 18:19

Hula0565890 · 23/07/2025 19:04

The spousal and child maintenance payments between me and my ex are due to end in September as per the court order. From Oct all costs of our kids will then be shared evenly between us.

My ex earns at least 3 times the amount I currently do. AIBU to ask if they will be willing to split the costs more than 50/50 in light of this, appreciating this cannot be enforced?

Are you in the uk? Are your children under 18 or under 21 and still in education?

depending on where you are from is dependent on the advice given.

child maintenance doesn’t stop unless they’re 18 or if they turn 21 and are in education…… regardless of your court order. Maintenance should still be paid according to the child maintenance rules. This is only for the UK though.

Xmasxrackers · 24/07/2025 18:26

Hula0565890 · 23/07/2025 19:46

Apologies for the drip feed. They will be finishing school then onto uni and so will need financial support for living costs.

Why can’t they get part time jobs?