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Friend 'sobbing in the kitchen' over Ozzy Osborne

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lronWoman · 22/07/2025 22:08

I'm not generally a mean spirited person but I just can't take this seriously!

My friend has never been a Black Sabbath fan and I've never heard her mention Ozzy once in the 20 years I've known her. However, her and her sister are apparently 'beside themselves with grief' over his death.

I just don't understand this type of performative grief over A list celebrities that people have never met. It's sad and I get that it kind of marks the end of an era, but the guy lived to a ripe old age in the lap of luxury and was one of the most celebrated rock stars the world has ever known. It's not like a present day star has suddenly been cut down in their prime and will no longer be releasing new albums. They'd already released all their famous stuff before we were born.

She wasn't sobbing in the kitchen when an old mutual workmate died unexpectedly in his late 30s a fortnight ago. Guy wasn't a close friend of ours but we were friendly. Used to go to the pub as a group and he helped us move house, refusing to accept a penny for it. Really nice bloke! We hadn't seen him in close to a decade but both felt sad about it for a few days. But no sobbing in the kitchen!

Latest comment is "he's up there at the bar with gramps". I'm finding it hard not to make an inappropriate joke tbh!

OP posts:
DrowningInSyrup · 23/07/2025 08:47

Didimum · 23/07/2025 08:29

I misread the work colleague part! I still don’t think it warrants disdain, as many people have said it can just be an emotional reaction for whatever reason. Maybe her dad or uncle loved Ozzy, maybe she has some significant memory that has drudged up other feelings that aren’t easily identifiable. I also think that many celebs are portrayed as pretty timeless, they just keep going, it feels like they are always around. It can rouse feelings of your own and others mortality when they inevitably decline.

I suppose everyone is different. I lost my dad at a young age, so now when someone famous dies, even if it's someone I really liked.....I just think oh well, and possibly, that's a bit sad and move on. Especially if it's someone who lived until a ripe old age. I found people describing the Queens death as tragic a bit distasteful.

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 08:48

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/07/2025 08:41

So you're a journalist looking to find a story after the death of a celebrity (e.g. Diana) who do you interview? - the wailing, performative ones obviously. It doesn't mean everyone there was wailing.

Where did I say everyone was wailing? I'm saying the wailing, performative ones being interviewed were invariably southern English.

Obviously people conducting themselves with restraint would have been far less interesting journalistic cannon fodder.

ObelixtheGaul · 23/07/2025 08:49

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 08:02

I remember the hordes of wailing, clothes-rending, hair-tearing, flag-wearing mourners outside the gates of Buckingham Palace when Diana died and thinking bemusedly that the southern English really were a separate species to the rest of us and worthy of scientific study in a laboratory somewhere.

Mind you, apparently Pavarotti really gied it laldy at her actual funeral, in a way that made the English look cold and stiff upper lipped.

Just to point out,the people wailing at the palace gates weren't just 'southerners', people HAD travelled. From the interviews conducted at the time, there certainly were people who had travelled all the way from Scotland just to put a wreath down and for the ridiculously OTT funeral.

In addition when you make comments like this,what you really mean is 'londoners' or people from the South East, I suspect. There's a whole lot of 'South' you know, that isn't the SE.

Saltandpeppersquid · 23/07/2025 08:50

333FionaG · 22/07/2025 22:11

Sometimes the death of a celebrity opens the door to past losses and grief that have been buried emotionally. Don’t be too harsh.

Totally agree with this.

If she has memories that link back to her teenage years then there may also be a keen emotional impact.

I was devastated when John Lennon was murdered because the Beatles were such a key part of my life growing up on Merseyside. I felt a genuine sense of loss and immense sadness. I also felt the loss of what might have been as he was brilliant musically and killed in his prime.

Ladydish · 23/07/2025 08:52

NooNakedJacuzziness · 22/07/2025 22:26

One of my friends on Facebook is sending love and prayers to his family and friends, which I’m sure is helping immeasurably

😂😂😂

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 08:52

ObelixtheGaul · 23/07/2025 08:49

Just to point out,the people wailing at the palace gates weren't just 'southerners', people HAD travelled. From the interviews conducted at the time, there certainly were people who had travelled all the way from Scotland just to put a wreath down and for the ridiculously OTT funeral.

In addition when you make comments like this,what you really mean is 'londoners' or people from the South East, I suspect. There's a whole lot of 'South' you know, that isn't the SE.

Fine, I will amend to south East and/or Londoners. However, I doubt that will end the barage of 'it wasn't just us' type posts.

And yes, I know people had travelled - but the wailers being interviewed that I saw were invariably of a particular demographic.

Womblingmerrily · 23/07/2025 08:55

I think there's a big difference between shedding a tear/sobbing in your kitchen privately and informing other people that you're doing so.

Why share that information?

Beachtastic · 23/07/2025 08:55

Standardpain · 22/07/2025 22:12

Tell to read about some of his odious and cruel behaviour and that might show her how ridiculous she is being.

Yes, I used to think he was an absolute sweetheart until I started reading his autobiography. I couldn't get past the first couple of chapters.

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 08:56

Beachtastic · 23/07/2025 08:55

Yes, I used to think he was an absolute sweetheart until I started reading his autobiography. I couldn't get past the first couple of chapters.

All I really know about his bad behaviour was to do with the bat. He (hopefully) wouldn't have gotten away with that these days.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/07/2025 08:57

My mum was choked up when the Queen died, which really surprised me.
She didn’t shed a tear, but there was a little catch in her throat.

I think it just made her think about her own late mum.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 23/07/2025 08:57

People also know him from The Osbournes so it’s not just Black Sabbath.

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 08:58

Womblingmerrily · 23/07/2025 08:55

I think there's a big difference between shedding a tear/sobbing in your kitchen privately and informing other people that you're doing so.

Why share that information?

She wants attention and ChatGPT just doesn't cut the mustard.

verycloakanddaggers · 23/07/2025 08:58

333FionaG · 22/07/2025 22:11

Sometimes the death of a celebrity opens the door to past losses and grief that have been buried emotionally. Don’t be too harsh.

This. It's why a Day of the Dead is suggested by some people.

Just step away if they're bothering you.

Bikergran · 23/07/2025 08:59

Magnir · 22/07/2025 22:12

This mainly started when Diana died.

There has always been hysteria over celebrities. Google Rudolph Valentino's funeral. When Michael Jackson died, one woman at work (in her late 40s) walked around blubbering for days.

FlatErica · 23/07/2025 08:59

YellowStook · 22/07/2025 22:12

I was the same about Bruce Forsyth.

Hang on, Bruce Forsyth is dead?!

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 09:03

FlatErica · 23/07/2025 08:59

Hang on, Bruce Forsyth is dead?!

Time for a 'RIP Brucey. I am sobbing in my kitchen. Up there with the greats. Why did no-one tell me?' FB post?

verycloakanddaggers · 23/07/2025 09:04

Bikergran · 23/07/2025 08:59

There has always been hysteria over celebrities. Google Rudolph Valentino's funeral. When Michael Jackson died, one woman at work (in her late 40s) walked around blubbering for days.

Yes always happened. A lot of emotion when Elvis died for example.

Spindrifts · 23/07/2025 09:05

How old is she? Perhaps BS & OO reminded her of something sentimental in her life? It is the passing of an era as it has been and will be with other long term artists. She is allowed. Go into the other room if you can't stand it. Who are you to control what she cries over?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 23/07/2025 09:06

Well1mBack · 22/07/2025 22:18

Oh god yes that was so cringe. I was about 13 or 14 when that happened. My parents were nonplussed about the whole thing. We are Scottish though, it definitely was more muted up here, I mean, there were people sobbing in the streets on the news in England??? I didn't see anyone sobbing in the streets up here. It was sad, really sad for her and her family and the children but it was just such an odd reactionary thing. But I understand perhaps if it was due to what a PP said; that it releases suppressed grief when it's a famous person. That's the only thing that makes sense.

IMO it’s pure attention seeking - oh, look at me, I’m such a sensitive person, overflowing with such desperate grief…

deydododatdodontdeydo · 23/07/2025 09:06

Yellowbirdcage · 23/07/2025 07:04

Representing the South East here re the Diana sobbing. Nope. None was seen. I think people got on the train to London and held it all in until they could sob amongst kindred souls.

I have posted on here before that one of my colleagues called in sick when Michael Jackson died. True story.

An ex work colleague of mine took a week off sick when Jackson died!

Katiesaidthat · 23/07/2025 09:06

It doesn´t affect you in the slightest, so just let her crack on.

ConnieHeart · 23/07/2025 09:06

Well1mBack · 22/07/2025 22:18

Oh god yes that was so cringe. I was about 13 or 14 when that happened. My parents were nonplussed about the whole thing. We are Scottish though, it definitely was more muted up here, I mean, there were people sobbing in the streets on the news in England??? I didn't see anyone sobbing in the streets up here. It was sad, really sad for her and her family and the children but it was just such an odd reactionary thing. But I understand perhaps if it was due to what a PP said; that it releases suppressed grief when it's a famous person. That's the only thing that makes sense.

I didn't see anyone irl crying over Diana, only on TV. I cried in my car when I heard on the radio that the driver was over the limit

MarvellousMonsters · 23/07/2025 09:08

I just don’t understand how people can be shocked that someone who abused their body with drugs and alcohol for decades finally dies in their 70s. I’m actually amazed he lived that long.

I think most people know him due to the reality show about his family, as opposed to his music, but either way, my social media is full of ‘RIP Legend’ and ‘Gone too soon’ bollocks and I’m having to sit on my hands.

ObelixtheGaul · 23/07/2025 09:12

Butchyrestingface · 23/07/2025 08:52

Fine, I will amend to south East and/or Londoners. However, I doubt that will end the barage of 'it wasn't just us' type posts.

And yes, I know people had travelled - but the wailers being interviewed that I saw were invariably of a particular demographic.

No, it probably won't, largely because it wasn't. Of course a greater amount of people from the region would have been there, since it was on their doorstep.

If you don't want the 'barrage' don't make stupid prejudiced generalisations. And no, I'm not from the South East, but I do know people who are, and they weren't weeping and wailing at the time either.

WavyRavey · 23/07/2025 09:20

I was hugely upset, but then I grew up with his music and always wanted to see him in concert, some people are just very dramatic.