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To be alarmed that he wants to move in.

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OldLobster · 22/07/2025 12:58

Maybe I'm being too territorial / selfish but I'd like some second opinions...I'd like to add from the start that no children are involved in this muddle!

Met DP about 2 years ago. He had been separated for several years at that point but he and ex-wife put off selling the house while their daughter took A levels and then went to uni locally...during this time he slept in a little annex they had in the garden...no room for doubt there as I have met and spoken to ex-wife who seems nice (but very different personality to DP) she was aware of me from the start and I have observed said annex. Their daughter has now finished her course and started a job away from home and they have just put their house on the market.

From the start DP Used to come round to see me unannounced...staying over gradually became 3 then 4 then 5 nights a week although he would go home to shower, wash clothes etc. At one point he asked if we could spend more time together and I said I'd prefer to keep it at 3 or 4 nights a week...which he ignored. Yes, at this point I should have stood my ground but pathetically, I did not. My house is tiny and I work from home. We split cooking and food costs but I found it quite tiring because possibly due to upbringing and poor boundary management I always felt in hostess mode and behaved in the way I would if a friend or relative came to stay....I love my family but I'd be exhausted if they stayed for months...and miss my own space. I've tried to explain this to him...that this setup is very different from the dynamic or sharing a home together (as I've done with previous partners).

Predictably, and here we enter territory where cocklodger comments are likely and justified, the bills went up, heating, oven on all the time etc. I'd be a little more prudent when living alone. He didn't offer any help or any little token as I would when staying with a friend. Slightly tricky as he is seldom here during the day except at weekends. I've not given him a key. He doesn't live here but spends most of his free time here amd every night.

I felt embarrassed mentioning that the bills had gone up which i did after 3 months, he did actually push back a little when I did so but then started giving me the amount by which they had increased. I felt shoddy even asking.

I'd like a break from this arrangement ...so have suggested that before we look at him moving in properly or of getting somewhere together, we perhaps spend 3 months sharing an off season rental (there are lots of holiday cottages where we live and during the winter these are no more expensive than my mortage). Our incomes are similar but I have a fairly large mortgage that takes up half of mine and DP will, in addition, be getting bank interest on his house sale money. This little break would give me a chance to see what its like to live together rather than in my home where most of the costs and upkeep naturally fall to me. As mentioned, my house is tiny...there's barely room for my belongings
Dps bank interest alone would cover most of the rental and it would only be for a few months.

He likes the idea however has stated that he doesn't want to pay for it all and will only entertain it if i pay half..instead he'd like to stay at mine, paying 400 per month (my mortgage is 3 x this).

I'm not usually tight-fisted but in this case am I, for feeling that he should really be offering to take on this responsibility, just fora few months, as I have done so for 18 months?

OP posts:
LeftieRightsHoarder · 22/07/2025 19:32

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:15

Thanks to everyone who has been kind enough to bother posting especially when I'm way too old to get myself in this muddle....I wasn't even desperate for a relationship..it was abandonment issues stemming from childhood (like many people have) a stupid level of politeness and a fear of conflict that led me to this situation.
Like I said I am way too old to have ended up in the position.

I could have said practically every word of that myself, Lobster. So many women are kind-hearted mugs. So many men are happy to climb on our backs and be carried till we drop. I hope that, like me, you'll eventually end up loving a good person who loves you back.

outerspacepotato · 22/07/2025 19:36

gamerchick · 22/07/2025 19:30

He's a cheeky fucker OP and if you're re not careful he's going to move on by stealth. All it'll take will be 'can I store some stuff at yours' when the house sells.

Personally I'd think about a massive break while he gets himself sorted out with a home. You are not going to like living with him by the sounds of it.

So much this.

What are you going to do when he asks you if he can just keep his stuff at yours for a week? Can you tell him to get a storage unit?

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 19:37

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 22/07/2025 19:22

I just don't understand men. He provided big house for the previous marriage but now all he wants is to go somewhere, anywhere how small, just to have a roof over his head. Is this what men really are like

Stupid comment I know

Tbf we don't know how much of that big house was paid by the ex wife, he sounds like a man quite used to being looked after by women

iamnotalemon · 22/07/2025 19:39

holrosea · 22/07/2025 19:03

FWIW, you sound like a kind & genuine person, and you were acting on affection and good faith by taking care of him, communicating your needs regarding space, and proposing a fair "test" of living together.

I think you have only been hoodwinked by the fact that you are not a CF, and as such you never even thought to approach the situation as a CF would.

Your alarm bells started ringing in time, you were able to recognise and articulate how the situation got to this point, and why you were worried by it. Sometimes even the most switched on and confident among us still need someone to see things from the outside and confirm what we suspected.

Give yourself a pat on the back for listening to your instincts and for seeking advice.

Give yourself another pat on the back for securing your own home.

Give yourself another one for recognising this situation before you found yourself with a CF infestation or found yourself in financial peril.

If you do meet someone nice, there is no reason not to entertain dating them. This time you will just go in better equipped to say "my home is my santuary and I don't intend to share it". People who value you will understand and respect this. 💐

CF infestation 😂😂😂

Pedallleur · 22/07/2025 19:41

If he has to find his own place he will be upset and probably break up the relationship. Don't think the op should be too worried. He was looking FWD to cheap lodging and a warm bed

Aimtodobetter · 22/07/2025 19:43

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 19:01

It definitely isn't an attractive trait.
What has fuzzled my thinking somewhat, is that he does lots of 'good deeds' in the outside world.. buying drinks for elderly men in pubs, cutting pensioners hedges.
He has a volatile relationship with his DD.. he told me that's because his ex-wife has employed parental.alienation and turned his DD against him.

I'd treat any parent claiming "parental alienation" with a child that age with a huge warning sign as it would be very hard to do if the original relationship was good, and very likely to backfire. This in of itself is a red flag.

Jiski · 22/07/2025 19:47

Tell him you don’t want to live with him and he can pay all his bills on his own. He’s a tight-fisted 🤬

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 19:47

@OldLobster this is me just being nosey but has he said the reason that his marriage broke down?

Mrsbloggz · 22/07/2025 19:55

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 18:23

I don't even think he paid voluntarily to support his DD...it was part of the divorce agreement and they had a (very small mortgage to equity) so if he'd not paid his share of that I think it could have jepodised his getting 50 PC of the house sale.

He's trying to extract money/value from you to compensate himself for the fact that he had to pay out to support his daughter.

AlertCat · 22/07/2025 20:01

I was going to quote someone, but actually I just want to echo the entirety of posters here who say, this man is an arch manipulator and means you no good. I would not recommend staying; at the end of my relationship with mine, I was a shadow of myself and didn’t know which end was up, he gaslit me and messed so badly with my head. I am also poorer with a microscopic pension in my future as a result of our relationship. He has not been financially impacted at all!

i found the Lundy Bancroft book Why Does He Do That to be invaluable- please consider reading it.

nomas · 22/07/2025 20:03

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 19:09

Funnily enough, I think alarm bells started ringing for me when we were in a supermarket on holiday once. Someone had dropped a ten pound note on the floor..instead of picking it up and looking around for someone who might have dropped it, he scooped it up in one swift movement and put it in his pocket. He didn't need the money. Fair enough, taking it to customer services etc might be over the top for some people (not myself) but he didn't even glance around to see who it might belong to.

money. Fair enough, taking it to customer services etc might be over the top for some people (not myself)

Not over the top at all. I once left £60 cashback at an Asda self-service till. I realised the next day and went to Asda customer service on the off chance it had been handed in. It had. And it had gone in a massive binder of neatly organised left behind money, with dates and details of the last transaction on the till.

So he absolutely was a knob for pocketing the money.

nomas · 22/07/2025 20:04

Mrsbloggz · 22/07/2025 19:55

He's trying to extract money/value from you to compensate himself for the fact that he had to pay out to support his daughter.

Yes, somebody has to pay.

nomas · 22/07/2025 20:04

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 18:47

The sad thing about this is I'll be overly guarded in future. If I get the chance (highly debatable so I don't even know why I'm pondering this) I'm not sure whether I'd entertain dating anyone who seemed like they might benefit from the fact I have my own home (large mortgage aside).I've never looked at a mam amd rated him on his earnings.

Does this mean you will dump him?

Mrsbloggz · 22/07/2025 20:06

All we can do is impress upon our daughters, the new generation of women that they must always push back against men; that men will exploit you if they have the opportunity and so you must never let them have any leverage over you.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/07/2025 20:11

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 19:01

It definitely isn't an attractive trait.
What has fuzzled my thinking somewhat, is that he does lots of 'good deeds' in the outside world.. buying drinks for elderly men in pubs, cutting pensioners hedges.
He has a volatile relationship with his DD.. he told me that's because his ex-wife has employed parental.alienation and turned his DD against him.

His good deeds sound very performative. If he was like this in private then it’s who he really is, but he’s only generous when he can do it very publicly. Just pocketing a tenner off the floor is awful. I’d have handed it in. Or on the street I’d have given it to charity. All these little details paint a rather unpleasant picture to be honest.

tara66 · 22/07/2025 20:11

If he moves into your house and lives there for any amount of time - I think it is at least 2 years, he will then have the right to make a claim on that property if you then break up as it is his ''home'' and you may have to sell and give him perhaps 50% of the proceeds - so please beware.

Donttellempike · 22/07/2025 20:13

tara66 · 22/07/2025 20:11

If he moves into your house and lives there for any amount of time - I think it is at least 2 years, he will then have the right to make a claim on that property if you then break up as it is his ''home'' and you may have to sell and give him perhaps 50% of the proceeds - so please beware.

This is not true.

Hedgedone · 22/07/2025 20:13

Give some honest thought to how much he has cost you and what he has saved by using you and your home.

I can assure you HE knows EXACTLY how much he has saved.
He thinks you are a mug OP.
No way anyone would ever catch him out.

Meanness goes to the core character of someone.
He's scum.

Donttellempike · 22/07/2025 20:15

Property law dictates property ownership. If the parties are married matrimonial law has a say

The only way to assert a right in the way described is in the law of equity. And this is practically impossible to do .

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 20:16

tara66 · 22/07/2025 20:11

If he moves into your house and lives there for any amount of time - I think it is at least 2 years, he will then have the right to make a claim on that property if you then break up as it is his ''home'' and you may have to sell and give him perhaps 50% of the proceeds - so please beware.

Definitely untrue, he could only have a claim if he could prove he paid the mortgage or for large improvements to the house. I think on this basis op would be safe if he was only contributing £400 a month total towards bills and food 😂

Pinkissmart · 22/07/2025 20:17

So he doesn't want to share but wants to take from you?
Nah

Starseeking · 22/07/2025 20:19

You need to leave this cocklodger and enjoy your lovely cosy house by yourself.

josa · 22/07/2025 20:23

I have read this thread in its entirety. At 54 I have met many men like this & been fooled & lost money due to them too. Please do not move him in/rent with him. You have so much to lose & nothing to gain. Do not let him store anything at yours, send him to a storage unit. He sounds so text book awful I really do hope this thread has helped you see the light & you dump him. Being alone is better than being with this type of man. If you are not quite brave enough to do that let him rent his own place. If he is like the rest of the men I know like this he will not rent anywhere & will slither off to find a mug to live with & take advantage of. Big hugs you are worth so much more than this man can ever appreciate.

tara66 · 22/07/2025 20:27

Donttellempike · 22/07/2025 20:13

This is not true.

How so? It is generally known that living in someone's house in a relationship even if not married gives the other party a right to claim a share of the value of that property if relationship breaks down .
But what is your understanding of the law then in this case if he went to court after living in OP' house for a few years and they broke up ?

Donttellempike · 22/07/2025 20:32

tara66 · 22/07/2025 20:27

How so? It is generally known that living in someone's house in a relationship even if not married gives the other party a right to claim a share of the value of that property if relationship breaks down .
But what is your understanding of the law then in this case if he went to court after living in OP' house for a few years and they broke up ?

Generally known by whom? Not by people legally qualified in the UK , like me . A solicitor since 1994

You are describing cohabitee rights. Which do not exist in the UK

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