To think my neighbour is being a CF? Garden fence related.

[MavisTheMonkey]

Our neighbours to the right are the last house in the road on a corner so we are their only neighbours. They have a wall between them and the pavement of the road around the corner and we have a fence in between our gardens.
For 11 years of the 12 years we have been here a couple lived there who had been there for 40+ years. They told us that they were responsible for both the wall to the road (on the right hand side of their garden) and the fence between us (to the left hand side of their house. They always maintained the fence and replaced a number of fence panels over the years. They moved out around a year ago and a new couple moved in.

Yesterday I bumped into the new neighbour and he said “oh I’ve been meaning to talk to you about the fence. I called land registry and they think it is shared. I’ve arranged for someone to come round on Thursday so can you keep your dog inside”

When he caught me I was super stressed and in the middle of something so he said he would catch me later and I didn’t ask questions or make any comments. Later that evening I checked to see if I have a copy of my title deeds as I know these sometimes show who is responsible for each boundary but I can’t find my copies and the originals are with the mortgage company. I also looked on land registry and can’t see how they would have been able to tell him it is a shared responsibility for that boundary.

He has just knocked on my front door and said that people coming tomorrow are replacing the entire fence. Then he showed me pictures of what the new fence will look like and a quote for £2300.

At this point I said “are you thinking I should pay for some of this?” And he said “Well what do you think the split should be?”

I pointed out that I don’t believe it is a shared fence and if it is it should be a shared decision on any work, not something he presents to me the evening before the work starts. I told him to go and see if he had a copy of the title deeds and then we will take it from there but again said if he believes it is a shared boundary it was not up to him to make the decision to replace the fence.

I am now thinking even if he can prove it is a shared responsibility for the fence I’m not going to pay any of the costs as he should have discussed it with me beforehand. AIBU to take this stand or if it is proven to be a shared responsibility then should I contribute towards the cost? I have the money but that’s not the issue in my mind, however I don’t want a bad relationship with our neighbours.

How many fence panels & length is it? Are concrete posts and gravel boards being built installed? Id ask to see the estimated costs from the fencer because that's quite steep unless you have quite a long garden & they are disposing of the old fencing. I'm just suspicious cf is pulling a flanker to get you to pay the lions share hence the pressure.

I’d do this but make it 1” taller than his and a completely different colour and style

It’s how it is commonly referred to in conveyancing for example in the TA6.

I wouldn’t pay a penny if I was you.
I’ve replaced my fences in the past and I do not expect a contribution from my neighbours. I have no idea who is responsible, but am of the opinion if you want to change it, you pay the full whack.

They are chancing their arm.

I can add to what I wrote, because it occurred to me that if you have panels and posts, the fence panels are nailed onto the posts so that they are included in the length, so both sides look the same.

He is incredibly arrogant. Don't give him a penny, because you will find him continuing that arrogance as long as he stays there.

without consulting you, he wanted it, he ordered it, he pays for it.

Is this a T in the first picture you post or is that just where a word is cut off?

Quite honestly the way your neighbour has behaved, I'm surprised you've kept a calm as you have. He sounds awful and who behaves so underhandedly anyway? Nobody decent that's for sure.

I'm sorry your land registry docs are proving so difficult. Good luck.

Until he gets a judge to order you to pay half you pay nothing....

@MavisTheMonkey I agree with pp suggestion that you download your neighbours details from LR as they may show T marks.
It's incredibly annoying that the LR has this archaic system where you have to print a form off and post it with a cheque in order to get copies of deeds.
I wish people would realise that just because their title deeds and plan give x details , that not all titles add deeds follow the same format.

My neighbours tried this on with me. When I first moved in they told me the fence belonged to me. Nevertheless thay asked me to share the cost of replacing it. I told them I would need to see proper letterhead invoices with VAT and a breakdown of labour and materials. They offered to get quotes for the work and then come back to me, However they never did.

Then they employed a bunch of cowboys in a scruffy unmarked van to replace the fence with recycled panels. They also had a lot of other work done (new patio etc) When they tried to get money out of me I refused outright because they had not discussed the costs with me. There were no invoices for the work so I would have been trusting them as to the amount I owed for the actual fence. I also told them that the result looked like something out of the third world and I was not going to pay for such rubbish. Instead I had my gardener erect a new fencing run on my land just inside. The new fence is higher than theirs so I dont have to look at their monstrosity. I dont care about disputes with shitty neighbours since I am not planning on selling up.

My view on neighbours is that a good one is a dead one.

Correction - NDN said fence belonged to THEM!

I know this is a zombie thread but you DO NOT have to fill a paper form and send a cheque and haven't had to for at least 10 years. Its all done online and you can download a copy. I be;live that official ("certified copies") do still need to be paid for by cheque.

info. The title register refers to a schedule marked with T from the original land sale in 1930s that is not available online- the
@godmum56 you can get details on line but if you want a copy of the lease and details of charges referred to in the online info you do indeed have to print off a form and write a cheque.
It's form CO2

I have bought non ceritfied copies online, its the certified stuff used for legal reasons that needs to be bought with a cheque

It's not just the certified copies , it'd necessary if you want the details of things referred to in the title like charges.
Or if you want the lease.
But I'm not going to continue arguing .
You took my remark out of context ,the OP was saying that the online register gave a summary .this is correct .