One million immigrants claiming benefits

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Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

Putin can't be blamed for a lack of border control in western countries or suicidal empathy towards hostile or incompatible cultures.

Try breaking into Russia or Dubai. Try commiting crime there. The west has become soft as shit and gets taken for mugs for it. Britain is merely the softest of the lot.

No, it is the bigots who think there's a big conspiracy to "replace" the white population.

I am just aware that there is a lot of deliberate and organised misinformation, shit stirring and scaremongering happening on social media.

With that in mind, I take hyperbolic posts such as the UK being on the brink of collapse, or the social contract breaking down etc. with an absolute lorry load of salt.

It's not a conspiracy. Its just liberalism in all it's glory.

With Brexit, we voted to Leave Europe and open our doors to the whole world. Not all of us thought it wise, but we are a democracy and have to abide with the majority decision (even though it was a narrow win).

Before you start work employers ask for proof of right to work.
That’s usually via passport.

No need to have an ID card. What’s the point when a passport or U.K. birth certificate will do.

Because you feel excluded / I doubt the poster living amongst Orthodox Jews has them round for a bbq on a Sat night. Or the children play together. They’ll be living quite separate lives like strangers

Typical Telegraph and Mail fear mongering and fiddling the stats.

Just because someone is an immigrant to the UK doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to benefits. Many, like me, entered the UK legitimately, some have gone on to become British citizens. Lots of people from other countries have legally worked here for decades and therefore qualified for State Pension which is a benefit.

Of course the T and M make it sound like a there's a million illegal immigrants invading our shores.

Exactly employers can and do ask for proof. IDs haven’t resolved this in Germany anyway.

This country is sinking as a result of Brexit.

It was me that said I live near big Orthodox Jewish community. To be honest, it's more likely that they would not have me over for a BBQ unless hell had frozen over; they are famously the least integrated community in the UK. I don't take it personally or go around feeling ‘excluded’ though. I just don't understand this mentality of feeling affronted if other people have the temerity to speak another language or look different in one's presence.

As for living quite separate lives, I live a separate life from some of my neighbours with the same skin colour and the same native language as me too. But I also have neighbours who look different from me with whom I do socialise.

Who gets to decide what is "misinformation"? The leaders saying that some women have penises?

"Misinformation" seems to be akin to Orwell's "wrongthink".

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For me it's the nice still existent pubs, safe friendly feel where people still say good morning from time to time, not as chaotic as central London for a small town, a church here or there maybe our flag flying sometimes too. Of course the countryside is one of the best parts of this country but that itself doesn't make it British. And as before language too, being able to go in a shop and people understand what you're saying. Things for older people to do like community centres that aren't abandoned.

As for Japan thing i think another example is Benidorm, that doesnt sit right with me such a large place dominated by just english people, bars, restaurants etc. Only difference is at least thats a tourist spot whereas random towns in the uk aren't.

I believe you
you could easily self certify back then to get a mortgage
say you were self employed and ad long as you had no ccj and a deposit you were good to go
there were a few dodgy mortgage brokers who knew exactly what you would need to get a mortgage

credit checks were pretty minimal
easy to get fake wage slips p45

I know a few people who did exactly what your mum did as they are members of my family 😂

You're into authoritarianism then?You're against Western values and civil rights. There are plenty of non liberal countries you can escape to.

I’m so fed up . It seems like British people are being squeezed more and more to pay for foreigners the majority don’t want here . The whole fabric of our society has changed .

Can you give an example of the whole fabric of society changing as I haven't witnessed it.

Well, as you say, pubs do still exist…
Hang on to your hat, but my neighbours and I, of all skin colours/religions/cultures/appearances, say good morning to each other all the time.
London is absolutely hoaching with churches.
In every shop I've ever been into in the UK, including those in places like Whitechapel that are clearly set up for people who like to/primarily use another language, the staff nonetheless understand me and speak to me in English. It's me who's the monoglot.
I really really can't see what the presence of people from different cultures has to do with abandoned community centres. You need to take that up with your local council.
I've never been to Benidorm, so can't say much about it. I don't know what you mean by 'at least that's a tourist spot', though; for one thing, a lot of people come to London/the UK partly or specifically because they want to see culturally and ethnically rich areas, so from that point of view you could argue that e.g. Brick Lane is a tourist spot.

Per week. You’re forgetting the free (to them) accommodation, food, heating. What does that equate to in cost? On the open market about another £1k per month?

Additionally the amount this government is paying out from tax payers money to immigrants in state benefits is disgraceful. The vast majority of the public is sick to the back teeth with it.

I agree that the whole fabric of our society has indeed changed but it is down to time, not immigration. Time has changed the fabric of societies since time began, and immigrants have come and gone from Britain since the ice age.

Because it’s not integration is it? It’s not a shop showcasing a certain cultures goods or services for all - it’s ghettoisation of areas and pockets of cultures. It’s the opposite of multiculturalism.

Crack on responding calling me racist or whatever you might, but there’s a reason these pocket areas seem to only have certain ethnicities or cultures living in them - it’s because there is no cohesion with other races or cultures. We’ve even seen it in Bradford where local Pakistanis are getting into brawls with Indians.

Quite a few counties in Europe are starting to stop this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html

The vast majority of the public is sick to the back teeth with it

.@User135644 any stats to back this up? Here are some stats on current attitudes to asylum seekers, can you provide something similar from a reliable source to illustrate your point?

The rise of Reforms popularity?

YouGov is known to be left leaning.

People can chortle and scoff all they like but currently, Reform and other right wing parities are on an upward trajectory. It’s something to watch and take seriously.

Well they live here and anyone living here we dont want living destitute especially children do we. So in all honesty theres nothing anyone can do

YouGov left leaning? The same YouGov founded by Nadhim Zahawi? A man who was once the Chancellor for a Tory government. That YouGov?