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Ex Colchester Mayor says we need Auschwitz camp minus the ovens.

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Pinkrosesyellowroses · 15/07/2025 17:27

AIBU to say this is disgusting? www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/25312634.colchester-figure-says-need-auschwitz-camp-minus-ovens/

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EasternStandard · 15/07/2025 18:45

BurntBroccoli · 15/07/2025 18:43

Yes you did get the Union Jack everywhere prior to 2015. I even had a cool Union Jack top around the time of the London Olympics - I was proud to wear it then. Now I wouldn’t dare in case people thought I was a Reform supporter!

The Union Jack? I thought the thing that people stereotyped was the St George’s flag

BurntBroccoli · 15/07/2025 18:46

PandoraSocks · 15/07/2025 18:41

And there we have it.

Now who was it who recruited impressionable young kids to their racist, hateful cause?

Exactly - Reform are also recruiting a lot of young men and teens to be councillors.

KateShugakIsALegend · 15/07/2025 18:46

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:35

Why does that make you say 'just wow.'? She asked what a 'native' person was in the context 🤷‍♀️

Speaking as a native British person (our immigration was generations ago - phew!), I feel it is really important always to take a step back and see the bigger picture.

If the issue is that people feel they are being given an unfair deal, I can understand that.

But globalisation, neo-liberalism, billionaires, tax breaks etc etc all play a massive part in what has happened to society over the last fifty years.

Where is the outrage on those issues?

I believe in firm, clear, fair, enforced laws on immigration, which allow us all to thrive.

I don't believe in dehumanising people and scapegoating them - there are dangerous precedents we should heed.

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:46

PandoraSocks · 15/07/2025 18:38

How many generations does one need to be able to trace back to be considered "native"/ have deep roots in this green and pleasant land.?

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It's a good question, and you'll probably be delighted to know that I haven't got an answer. I suppose it should be those who are ethnically British. What percentage of your DNA must be white British to be white British? I don't know.

I can see I've touched a lot of nerves in my comments. But when you see the place you grew up in with huge swarms of migrants who aren't integrating, it's a massive, massive problem. This is why people are upset.

InternationalHulaClub · 15/07/2025 18:51

Of course you are not being unreasonable. It is a shockingly offensive comment.

DuncinToffee · 15/07/2025 18:53

PandoraSocks · 15/07/2025 18:41

And there we have it.

Now who was it who recruited impressionable young kids to their racist, hateful cause?

I don't know if her family is involved, but the far right has jumped on it.

BurntBroccoli · 15/07/2025 18:54

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:46

It's a good question, and you'll probably be delighted to know that I haven't got an answer. I suppose it should be those who are ethnically British. What percentage of your DNA must be white British to be white British? I don't know.

I can see I've touched a lot of nerves in my comments. But when you see the place you grew up in with huge swarms of migrants who aren't integrating, it's a massive, massive problem. This is why people are upset.

There’s that dehumanising language again “swarms”.

“Dehumanising migrants, by referring to them as a ‘swarm’ or ‘invasion’, is a tactic to forget a person’s humanity and a means to seek support for harmful policies or measures”

https://migrantsrights.org.uk/projects/wordsmatter/invasion-swarm-influx-threat/Invasion, swarm, influx, threat… - Migrants' Rights Network

Invasion, swarm, influx, threat… - Migrants' Rights Network

The language of invasion, swarm and influx is strongly linked to the dangerous construction of migrants as a “threat”.

https://migrantsrights.org.uk/projects/wordsmatter/invasion-swarm-influx-threat/

LadyKenya · 15/07/2025 18:59

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:46

It's a good question, and you'll probably be delighted to know that I haven't got an answer. I suppose it should be those who are ethnically British. What percentage of your DNA must be white British to be white British? I don't know.

I can see I've touched a lot of nerves in my comments. But when you see the place you grew up in with huge swarms of migrants who aren't integrating, it's a massive, massive problem. This is why people are upset.

Your use of language is very telling.

DuncinToffee · 15/07/2025 18:59

BurntBroccoli · 15/07/2025 18:54

There’s that dehumanising language again “swarms”.

“Dehumanising migrants, by referring to them as a ‘swarm’ or ‘invasion’, is a tactic to forget a person’s humanity and a means to seek support for harmful policies or measures”

https://migrantsrights.org.uk/projects/wordsmatter/invasion-swarm-influx-threat/Invasion, swarm, influx, threat… - Migrants' Rights Network

Remember Holocaust survivor Joan Salter confronting Braverman over her use of 'swarm'

"When I hear you using words against refugees like 'swarms' and an 'invasion', I am reminded of the language used to dehumanise and justify the murder of my family and millions of others.

"Why do you find the need to use that kind of language?"

PandoraSocks · 15/07/2025 19:05

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:46

It's a good question, and you'll probably be delighted to know that I haven't got an answer. I suppose it should be those who are ethnically British. What percentage of your DNA must be white British to be white British? I don't know.

I can see I've touched a lot of nerves in my comments. But when you see the place you grew up in with huge swarms of migrants who aren't integrating, it's a massive, massive problem. This is why people are upset.

"Swarms". Lovely language to use about your fellow humans.

"Ethnically British"

There is no such ethnicity as British🤣so it won't show up on DNA tests.

Notonthestairs · 15/07/2025 19:07

Currently 14% don’t find the idea of Auschwitz camp disgusting.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/07/2025 19:16

Notonthestairs · 15/07/2025 19:07

Currently 14% don’t find the idea of Auschwitz camp disgusting.

MN has a swarm of invaders throwing out their love.

hattie43 · 15/07/2025 19:23

Not the brightest is he

ExpressCheckout · 15/07/2025 19:25

Notonthestairs · 15/07/2025 19:07

Currently 14% don’t find the idea of Auschwitz camp disgusting.

Well, I suppose that does show that MN doesn't have as many Reform/Lee Anderson types as the general population, which is probably a good thing (polling currently puts them around 30%).

ghostyslovesheets · 15/07/2025 19:29

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:23

As an example, did you not see the girl in Rugby who was not allowed to attend Diversity Day at her school because she was celebrating being English? How is that inclusive?

I've heard so many times "white people have no culture" when we really, really do.

She wasn’t celebrating being English- she was celebrating being British - the school have admitted it was wrong and apologised

is that your only example?

Dweetfidilove · 15/07/2025 19:29

Skyrise · 15/07/2025 18:46

It's a good question, and you'll probably be delighted to know that I haven't got an answer. I suppose it should be those who are ethnically British. What percentage of your DNA must be white British to be white British? I don't know.

I can see I've touched a lot of nerves in my comments. But when you see the place you grew up in with huge swarms of migrants who aren't integrating, it's a massive, massive problem. This is why people are upset.

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Step forward to the front of the class, bright spark 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾!

ghostyslovesheets · 15/07/2025 19:30

Our DNA is made up of centuries of immigrants by the way

BIossomtoes · 15/07/2025 19:31

What a vile arsehole.

Serpentstooth · 15/07/2025 19:58

Tories Macht Twats Councillor. Stick that over the door.

realsavagelike · 15/07/2025 20:00

morefamiliar · 15/07/2025 18:44

On FB groups for my local towns, attitudes like these are becoming increasingly common. Any business shuts - dozens of conspiracy theories about immigrants. The council will be opening a hostel for 'Boat People', etc. We've always had these nutters, but it seems to have grown a lot recently. Perhaps they're emboldened by the growth of Reform. Feels like something really dark is brewing.

Same on my local Facebook group. 'The good old days', 'Don't recognize my town any more' etc. etc. Really winds me up.

Clavinova · 15/07/2025 20:15

DuncinToffee · 15/07/2025 18:53

I don't know if her family is involved, but the far right has jumped on it.

You have implied that the 12-year-old girl and her family are involved;

'when she gives her speech in London on Sep 13th'
'There is a Tommy Robinson rally that day.'

The BBC article reports that the girl has been invited to give her speech at the school, not a Tommy Robinson rally. If you are not sure of your facts you should ask for your post to be withdrawn.

ExpressCheckout · 15/07/2025 20:15

realsavagelike · 15/07/2025 20:00

Same on my local Facebook group. 'The good old days', 'Don't recognize my town any more' etc. etc. Really winds me up.

Absolutely.

@morefamiliar Perhaps they're emboldened by the growth of Reform. Feels like something really dark is brewing.

Yep. The Nazis, and many before and since, started by telling people how broken their society is, stirred people up, then encouraged them to blame other people, usually the weak or outsiders. Cue exclusion, persecution and killing.

I honestly want to scream at potential Reform voters to wake up and understand this very simple lesson from history.

Unless Farage tacks further to the centre, leaving vile individuals like Lee Anderson and co. behind, it will happen here. I just hope Farage has the sense and moral intelligence to do this, unlike some of his fellow Reform MPs.

DuncinToffee · 15/07/2025 20:17

Clavinova · 15/07/2025 20:15

You have implied that the 12-year-old girl and her family are involved;

'when she gives her speech in London on Sep 13th'
'There is a Tommy Robinson rally that day.'

The BBC article reports that the girl has been invited to give her speech at the school, not a Tommy Robinson rally. If you are not sure of your facts you should ask for your post to be withdrawn.

The fundraising is a fact

Clavinova · 15/07/2025 20:25

DuncinToffee · 15/07/2025 20:17

The fundraising is a fact

Has the 12-year-old girl been booked to give a speech in London Sep 13?

Clavinova · 15/07/2025 20:27

Serpentstooth · 15/07/2025 19:58

Tories Macht Twats Councillor. Stick that over the door.

He seems to have been an Independent Councillor - originally a Lib Dem, although some years ago.