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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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nund · 18/07/2025 13:47

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 13:01

Exactly.
As a person who clearly prefers small crossbreeds, she finds any dog bigger than a Labrador intimidating.

And ... if she finds such dogs intimidating, then ipso facto they are intimidating. No? (Part of the meaning of "intimidating".)

So, it follows, owners of these dogs should take care to keep them away from other people to avoid such intimidation.

I say again. Watch out, you dog people -- take care: keep your intimidating animals way from me and my grandkids, otherwise you will be to blame for a dog that is no longer intimidating because it's dead.

JJMama · 18/07/2025 13:52

BeamMeUpCountMeIn · 15/07/2025 14:15

Yanbu. It's almost always the breed.
I could take on a medium to small dog. I could not take on an XL or angry rottie. German Shepherds in theory should be amazing dogs (see police dogs) but the poor dogs are often owned by unfit thickies who don't work them.

This. It’s not the breed; they’re all animals and as such, are unpredictable. Many of the little yappy ones bite more than bigger ones.

Either way, it’s the useless thick as shit owners who are the problem. Buying animals they have no idea how to treat and keep - selfish fuckwits who don’t understand they’re animals and not babies!

hungryduck · 18/07/2025 14:02

nund · 18/07/2025 13:47

And ... if she finds such dogs intimidating, then ipso facto they are intimidating. No? (Part of the meaning of "intimidating".)

So, it follows, owners of these dogs should take care to keep them away from other people to avoid such intimidation.

I say again. Watch out, you dog people -- take care: keep your intimidating animals way from me and my grandkids, otherwise you will be to blame for a dog that is no longer intimidating because it's dead.

Again... The owners in the OP have kept them away from other people. 2 of them on lead and the other well trained, walking to heel by the description.

Untrained, off-lead dogs are dangerous no matter the breed, I hate untrained, off-lead dogs anywhere near my ddog, but the dogs the OP talks about are not that.

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 18/07/2025 14:04

Big dogs have the ability to be twats or nice dogs.
Little dogs can also have the ability to be twats or nice dogs.
While we are at it, medium dogs too!

It's almost as if they are individual sentient beings.....

....oh, wait.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 14:09

nund · 18/07/2025 13:47

And ... if she finds such dogs intimidating, then ipso facto they are intimidating. No? (Part of the meaning of "intimidating".)

So, it follows, owners of these dogs should take care to keep them away from other people to avoid such intimidation.

I say again. Watch out, you dog people -- take care: keep your intimidating animals way from me and my grandkids, otherwise you will be to blame for a dog that is no longer intimidating because it's dead.

But they were keeping their dogs away from her. Two of them were on leads. This is the point we are making.

If I'm walking my girl, close to me, on a lead, under control, I would not expect abuse from someone just because they find her size intimidating. I would not expect to be told I have no right to walk her in the same park where I've walked for years. Nor would I expect my dog to be issued with death threats...

YeOldeGreyhound · 18/07/2025 14:11

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 14:09

But they were keeping their dogs away from her. Two of them were on leads. This is the point we are making.

If I'm walking my girl, close to me, on a lead, under control, I would not expect abuse from someone just because they find her size intimidating. I would not expect to be told I have no right to walk her in the same park where I've walked for years. Nor would I expect my dog to be issued with death threats...

Careful, nund said she would beat your dog to death with her walking stick, in full view of her grandchildren, if your dog is just barking.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 18/07/2025 14:17

I say again. Watch out, you dog people -- take care: keep your intimidating animals way from me and my grandkids, otherwise you will be to blame for a dog that is no longer intimidating because it's dead.

Just to be 100% clear, if you ever encounter me you will be very lucky if you face criminal proceedings (attacking a service animal is a criminal offence), because I will take you stick off you and wrap it around your neck. Tightly.

You are no better than the irresponsible dog owners.

cheesemongery · 18/07/2025 14:17

See all.

Oh, no further posts.

DarcyProudman · 18/07/2025 14:26

Sorry, you lost me at Cavapoo.

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 18/07/2025 14:27

YeOldeGreyhound · 18/07/2025 14:11

Careful, nund said she would beat your dog to death with her walking stick, in full view of her grandchildren, if your dog is just barking.

Indeed. Who gets excited fantasising about the opportunity to beat a dog to death?

I think perhaps she should not be around dogs OR children! She sounds deranged, just one bad day away from being a headline 😵‍💫

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 14:30

YeOldeGreyhound · 18/07/2025 14:11

Careful, nund said she would beat your dog to death with her walking stick, in full view of her grandchildren, if your dog is just barking.

MN is like a parallel universe sometimes.

I could suspect she's saying it tongue in cheek, she's clearly an intelligent person, but it's hard to be sure on MN. It is scary the level of hatred on here towards anyone who dares to have a dog larger than a doodle.

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 18/07/2025 14:36

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 14:30

MN is like a parallel universe sometimes.

I could suspect she's saying it tongue in cheek, she's clearly an intelligent person, but it's hard to be sure on MN. It is scary the level of hatred on here towards anyone who dares to have a dog larger than a doodle.

Or just any dog. 🤷🏼‍♀️😵‍💫

or cat.

I think goldfish are acceptable on MN. That's it. Maybe a pet basil plant.

ForestFox44 · 18/07/2025 14:42

So people can't take their dogs out (even on a lead as you don't seem okay with that either) because you don't approve of their breed? 😆😆 get over yourself and go somewhere else if you don't like it.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 14:47

You're right @MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast
I forgot that cats all shit 24 hours a day in MN world 🙄 and carry lots of terrible diseases.

(disclaimer: I have cats as well as big dogs, I'm really living dangerously just being here...😏)

TheGreatDownandOut · 18/07/2025 14:47

nund · 18/07/2025 13:47

And ... if she finds such dogs intimidating, then ipso facto they are intimidating. No? (Part of the meaning of "intimidating".)

So, it follows, owners of these dogs should take care to keep them away from other people to avoid such intimidation.

I say again. Watch out, you dog people -- take care: keep your intimidating animals way from me and my grandkids, otherwise you will be to blame for a dog that is no longer intimidating because it's dead.

No longer Liam Neeson vibes.
Now, Cruella de Ville vibes.

cobrakaieaglefang · 18/07/2025 16:01

What an entertaining thread, confirming there are plenty of deranged women out there. Yet, its supposed to be the menz who wave more red flags than a Chinese military display. MIL vibes all round. 🙈🤣

RunningJo · 18/07/2025 16:23

HappiestSleeping · 15/07/2025 18:16

I refer my learned friend to the owners of the very sweet dachshunds without a thought that they were dred to flush unwilling badgers out of their sets. I can't say that I would want to dig into a badger set to get a badger out that didn't want to leave.

One of my dogs is a Dachshund, any owner who doesn’t realise what they were bred to do and buys one thinking they’re a cute lap dog is in for trouble.
They need exercise, physical and mental. They do not need carrying in a handbag and a selection of coats. Mine would probably kill me in my sleep if I bought him a jumper or a bow tie 🤣

RunningJo · 18/07/2025 16:25

OonaStubbs · 17/07/2025 17:59

They should invent a disease to curb the excess dog population, like they did with Myxomatosis on rabbits in Australia. This would solve the problem in one fell stroke.

WTF.. are you ok?

HappiestSleeping · 18/07/2025 16:32

nund · 18/07/2025 13:47

And ... if she finds such dogs intimidating, then ipso facto they are intimidating. No? (Part of the meaning of "intimidating".)

So, it follows, owners of these dogs should take care to keep them away from other people to avoid such intimidation.

I say again. Watch out, you dog people -- take care: keep your intimidating animals way from me and my grandkids, otherwise you will be to blame for a dog that is no longer intimidating because it's dead.

I don't think you quite understand how the law works here.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 16:44

I'm almost tempted to post a photo of my intimidating dog...🤔

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 18/07/2025 16:51

HappiestSleeping · 18/07/2025 16:32

I don't think you quite understand how the law works here.

Quite. I think she would be surprised to learn that in the eyes of the law you don't have the right to beat a dog to death because you didn't like the way it looked.

she is utterly deranged, and sounds like quite vile person.

Balloonhearts · 18/07/2025 16:56

YeOldeGreyhound · 18/07/2025 14:11

Careful, nund said she would beat your dog to death with her walking stick, in full view of her grandchildren, if your dog is just barking.

Lol, It'd be me she needs to worry about if she assaulted us. The dog is harmless. Dog wouldn't hurt anyone to save her life.

I, on the other hand, would have no qualms about defending ourselves and leaving her grandkids to call the ambulance.

People try to act all big, 'Oh, I'd beat it to death if it came near us.' In reality, they'd be shitting themselves because they're scared of the dog and the owner isn't just going to stand there and let you do it! Anyone whose dog is being attacked by some nutter just for existing is going to jump straight in and give it right back to you!

HappiestSleeping · 18/07/2025 17:04

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 18/07/2025 16:51

Quite. I think she would be surprised to learn that in the eyes of the law you don't have the right to beat a dog to death because you didn't like the way it looked.

she is utterly deranged, and sounds like quite vile person.

Edited

In fairness, a phobia is a difficult thing to deal with, so fear / anxiety of dogs is a very real thing for some people. Where reality differs is that the dog is not necessarily classed as intimidating just because another person has a phobia. I am not sure where Nund sits on this scale, or whether some other scale might be more appropriate.

I do feel for people who have such phobias as avoiding dogs is nigh on impossible now that every man and his dog has one (excuse the pun). Couple that with the fact that dogs gravitate towards nervous people and their lives must be very difficult. There are things they could do to help themselves though. Or more accurately, things that they could stop doing that would help themselves.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/07/2025 17:06

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 16:44

I'm almost tempted to post a photo of my intimidating dog...🤔

Ohhh I think you should, @CoubousAndTourmalet - please!

CoubousAndTourmalet · 18/07/2025 17:15

They never admit to a phobia though @HappiestSleeping if you suggest they get treatment they call you outrageous and say that you're the one with the problem, not them.

In any case, the OP here allegedly has a small crossbreed so she isn't dog phobic as such, just has a fear and distrust of large dogs, a bit like I do with tiny ones.

I'm not sure about Nund, I suspect she's more a believer that certain breeds (or types of owner) pose a danger/threat, possibly due in part to the "status dog" propaganda that is spewed out by the media.

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