to ask dh not to take Class A drugs a week before blood tests for recurrent miscarriage?

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Will it screw up the results of his blood test?

He hardly ever takes any drugs but would need to in order to survive a festival, apparently.

I haven't mentioned it yet. What should I say?

AbbeyA, people are more agreeable in the morning because they haven't been jaded throughout the day and come one here ready to argue!! Nothing worse than a drunk parent at a wedding talking to their child!!

I am pleased to be able to agree with you posie-having argued elsewhere!! Perhaps I will stick to early morning!

AbbeyA, I do love to agree and always think I'm being pretty reasonable, although I fear I may not be very self aware!!

I like to agree and think that I am reasonable but not everyone thinks so!! Anyway we had better stop hijacking the thread and let them get back to drugs!

Hi OP I'm really pleased about the course of action your dp has decided on it sounds like he's using his head!

Agree with Thomcat earlier on in the thread sorry you've had so many judgey how can you be with a man like this type of comments on this thread. because obviously taking a bit of MDMA/E once or twice a year at a festival makes him satan and not fit to grace this Earth let alone be a dad

For the record nearly all the parents including dentists, psychiatrists, solicitors, bankers, teachers, journalists, tv producers, opticians, engineers and psychologits and nurses I know have done the same. How does the moral fabric of our society survive!!!!

DSM - You don;t have a very good memory... I was having a discussion - it was only when you expressed such surprise that anyone could possibly beleive what I did that I pointed you in the direction of several very credible studies. I rarely feel the need to rely on external evidence to back up my opinions but in the face of such incredulity I felt it appropriate.

Damned if I do, damned if I don't!

"they are just trying to make the other person change their mind" PMSL - I just stated an opinion, YOU were the one trying to change MY mind!!!

must stop this hijacking but DSM your arguments make me laugh.

Sorry OP - though I diapprove of illegal drugs, your DP does seem very sensible and I hope it works out well for you both.

For the record nearly all the parents ... I know have done the same.

And nearly all the one's I know haven't. Your point is? Where does this idea that everyone has done something in their life come from? I never even had a cigarette because when I was little I had an ambulance in my bedroom on a regular basis taking my baby sister away. She nearly died several times because of cigarettes. Mum gave Dad an ultimatum stop smoking or leave and since he gave up my sister got a lot better.

It's not even about doing it once or twice a year. Can I remind people about Leah Betts. She died from taking one tablet. She hadn't done anything before. It might have been from water intoxication, but it was because she had taken drugs. Or how about Anna Wood. People do die from taking them once. You can never guarantee what is in what you are taking. There's been warnings recently about batches of drugs being cut with something dangerous.

I have a friend who's grandparents are both dying from Lung cancer. She still smokes.

What I am trying to say is - each to their own and having a dying or ill relative doesn't give someone the moral high ground or always mean that a person makes choices not to do these things.

Yes people die from taking things once, people also die from eating peanuts once. Drugs can be terribly destructive but this doesn't mean all people who take drugs are doing dso in a destructive way.

Also worth pointing out that people are more likely to say they have never done any kind of drug for fear of condemnation than they are to admit to a minor drug taking past so you may actually know more people who have taken drugs than you think.

I'm not taking the moral high ground by not smoking. I was genuinely scared as a child seeing my baby sister being worked on in my bedroom. I'm not saying it for fear of anything.

People can die from eating peanuts once but they don't do it taking their life in their hands, peanuts are actually very healthy, you can't anticipate allergies.

I never said people were being destructive by taking them. Leah Betts was trying to be responsible by drinking plenty of water.

I'm sorry but it's a Russian Roulette I don't want to play and wouldn't dream of playing.

didns't want to get into the pedantics of this but more people die from allergic reactions to aspirin/paracetomol/penicillin that ecstacy. V sad about Leah betts and the other girl but if you look at the statistics more people die from over the counter/px drugs that illicit ones, NOT that I'm codoning their use.

However I do think adults who make informed choices and who know the risks can take drugs recreationally an rare occassions without it damaging their parenting capacity, their mental health or their physical well-being.

Some individuals are very secretive about their occassional, recreational drug use in company including people they know very well. Because they don't want to be completely shunned by said group. I expect you know more people who've tried illicit drugs than you realise.

"I expect you know more people who've tried illicit drugs than you realise" - I'm not sure exactly why this is relevant (or does it address someones point earlier). Why does it matter how many people have done somthing. Presumably you make your choices in life based on what you think is reasonable not based on the volume of people who agree with you?

I have no idea how many of my friends have taken/currently take drugs. I haven't asked, they don't do it in front of me, I haven't seen them under the influence. If they did I wouldn;t be friends with them for long. Not because of any level of disapproval but because of the same reason why I tend not to be freinds with heavy drinkers anymore - I don;t drink and its very dull being the sober one in a group of trolleyed people who think they're funny. I find people smoking pot or using cocane (though to be fair they were generally wankers with or without the influence of drugs) the same but no experience of other drugs so can't comment on the effects of those.

My point was more that even though people say they don't know anyone who does drugs, it's likely that through work or socialising you actually do but because they are not doing it in front of you or talking about it perhaps you are unaware.

Meaning - Drug consumption can be occassional and private and isn't something which is immediately obviouse when the people using them are continuing to lead normal functioning lives, some of them are even parents!

To those being judgmental about parents who drink/take drugs etc - just wanted to add something from my personal experience. IMO, most parents find that drug use is incompatible with kids except very occasionally, just as most mothers find that they don't drink as much after having children due to having given up for so long. And when they want to kick up their heels, I think most parents arrange for someone else to have the children so it doesn't impact on their family.

But particularly for men I think it's something that people realise once the baby is there and their life changes completely. They're too tired to stay up till dawn doing crazy stuff, to be honest!

Before the baby is a reality, particularly when ttc, the baby can seem rather hypothetical, and I think anyone trying to give up their chosen recreation, particularly at a one off event like a festival, for a hypothetical baby needs support, not censure.

So well done to the OP's husband - I think he deserves a round of applause for coming to that conclusion by himself.

just wanted to add something to this. I am not really sure how I feel about ding drugs and having children, a big part of me screams that you shouldn't as if anything did happen to you what if and all that - many people can take that chance. I am not sure I can and have stopped all v occasional recreational drug use since falling PG with DD.

However my SS made a comment once which I never forgot - his Mother is v open about doing drugs and has been with him since he was 13 or so. He said word for word that he used to think drugs were awful and dangerous but since finding out that his Mum does them he started to as well and realised that they were fine and he really enjoys smoking weed and doing E. He was 14 at the time he said this.

Make of that what you will it made me feel that it can set a really bad example to be so open..

crush that is just horrifying for your SS

Is being a parent compatible with driving over the speed limit once in a while?

Leah Betts died from drinking 7 liters of water in 90 minutes.

After I have my baby, and no longer feeding, my friend and I plan a weekend without children in Amsterdam to relive our uni days. I hope to have a lovely time in cafes and not snorting coke or anything. I wouldn't ever do anything in my house and have only been pissed a little twice since my first pregnancy. My dp has been pissed far more often but I just can't do it.