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Original poster

to ask dh not to take Class A drugs a week before blood tests for recurrent miscarriage?

145 replies

OffTheCoffee · 26/05/2008 19:14

Will it screw up the results of his blood test?

He hardly ever takes any drugs but would need to in order to survive a festival, apparently.

I haven't mentioned it yet. What should I say?

OP posts:
Kewcumber · 27/05/2008 15:18

and I've done wild. Believe me, in my case, "sober" is better.

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 15:24

One study? Thats where you got your opinion?

My opinion on the matter is from personal experience, and its an ongoing observation based over the course of nearly 15 years working and living in the bar and nightclub trade.

bossybritches · 27/05/2008 15:28

Sorry folks but I cannot bear to read this "used recreationally drugs are less harmful than alcohol" crap.

The leading neuro-scientist consultant in the country is on record as saying that as little as ONE joint or fix a week knocks off brain cells, from the begining. Every drug addict starts on soft drugs used ONLY for recreation & then progresses because they then have a contact who will always get them something more.

Having cared for a 22 year old who was mainlining into arteries because he had collapsed all his veins & having held him while he literally died struggling to breathe you can see why I am anti it all.

Sorry OP not your argument I know & distressing for you- i hope the tests help but I'd re-schedule if your DH cannot stay clean.

beaniesteve · 27/05/2008 15:31

Oh! Alcohol is as dangerous as many drugs. We all know that. But it's a pointless argument to start having unless you are advocating either banning all alcohol and all drugs (including Class C and some medical)or making all drugs legal like alcohol.

With the exeption of Heroin (which is I believe what you BossyBritches are talking about) most drugs can be used safely if used recreationally.

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 15:43

Bossy.. suggesting that every addict starts on soft drugs is not only stupid, but very misinformed.

Also, one joint may kill some brain cells.. but so can many other things (including, by the way, alcohol) and brain cells can regenerate.

If it were true that drug use kills the brain and therefore every drug user is messing their life, would we have had Freud, Ginsberg, Timothy Leary, The Beatles, Rolling Stones (I could probably name a thousand amazing musicians here..)

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 15:46

Actually, Heroin can be used safely recreationally. It is extremely addictive, but there are very, very many thousands of people who use heroin and never become junkies.

And I would say alcohol is an dangerous, if not more so, than most drugs because I believe in the legalisation of all drugs.

CoteDAzur · 27/05/2008 15:51

bossy - what is a 'fix'?

alittleone2 · 27/05/2008 15:56

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DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:02

alittleone..

Of course I would never advocate people snorting lines and smoking smack in family pubs? What a bloody ridiculous thing to suggest.

If you don't want your kids to grow up thinking it's ok to smoke weed or snort coke, then chances are they will do it and you will not know. Would you not rather they grew up with the knowledge to make an informed choice of their own?

cazcaz · 27/05/2008 16:06

who's to say who will be able to use drugs recreationally and who will end up becoming addicted?!

In my personal experience only, dope and cocaine ruined my ex partners life, that of his parents, sister and actually, albeit temporarily, mine. He is the biological father of my eldest child and yet has not seen him since he was only a few weeks old. He is now 7. His life will obviously be affected by the decisions this man made in the years to come when he learns the truth about why his biological father has nothing to do with him.

To the OP I hope your tests are okay and that they are able to give you some answers.

beaniesteve · 27/05/2008 16:15

Oh - I was raised around some drug use. I didn't smoke until I was 26, lose my virginity until I was 25 or take drugs until I was in my twenties. I never became anything more than a very occassional drug user. So...

just because a parent uses drugs, doesn't mean they expose you to them all the time, nor does it mean you grow up thinking it's 'right'.

alittleone2 · 27/05/2008 16:17

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DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:21

Alitteone - your children night think it is okay. They might want to try drugs. You cannot say that they won't, because you cannot know that.

Alcohol and cigarettes are legal, yet the sale and consumption of them are regulated. Its not hard.

Kewcumber · 27/05/2008 16:24

"One study? Thats where you got your opinion?" Sorry to bang on about this because its not really relevant to the Op - but it wasn't one study it was a report collating many studies from around the world (if you insist I will list them for you) IN ADDITION to my own personal experience living and working in a pub.

Your quite entitled to choose not to agree with either me and/or the report I quoted, though the Australian study by Chikritzhs and Stockwell and the Lancashire study were particularly persuasive, but please don't let a little well researched infomration sway you. However to suggest from your tone that I'm some kind of ill-informed loon because I didn't think that extending licencing hours would have the effect that everyone wanted is a little wide of the mark.

Maybe. But thats only my opinion of course and not as note-worthy as yours it seems

alittleone2 · 27/05/2008 16:28

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DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:31

I am not particularly interested in these types of studies to be honest, I generally find them to be one sided and biased. I prefer to extend my reading toward studies which have not been funded by government bodies. Propaganda.

I certainly find it interesting that you say you lived and worked in a pub, yet you don't agree that if people leave at staggered times there is less likely to be street violence than if they all leave together. This astounds me, TBH.

cazcaz · 27/05/2008 16:33

DSM, none of us know what our children will do when they are old enough to sampling these things! Your own children may turn out to be very anti drugs and mine may (please God I hope not) turn out to be addicts. Who knows!

What I do know however is that even dope and cocaine can and do ruin lives!

My children will be very well educated about drugs and I hope they are confident enough to not go there!

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:34

Jesus, obviously not.
The requirement for a driving licence does not stop people driving. The requirement for a gun licence does not stop people carrying guns. It certainly does regulate it though, to the best of anyones ability.

People will always break the law, that is a ridiculous and very weak argument against the legislation of drugs, TBH.

umberella · 27/05/2008 16:34

By DirtySexyMummy on Tue 27-May-08 15:46:08:

"Actually, Heroin can be used safely recreationally. It is extremely addictive, but there are very, very many thousands of people who use heroin and never become junkies."

are you tripping DSM?

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:36

Er, no. I know lots of people who have tried heroin once, or twice. I know lots of people who use heroin very occasionally, and are not addicts.

Kewcumber · 27/05/2008 16:36

my experience is that the longer you open the drunker people get, people who left slightly merry at 11pm would continue drinking when we had a function on and would leave completely trolleyed at 12midnight.

That report was particularly critical of govt policy so not sure you can level the biased accusation at it.

umberella · 27/05/2008 16:38

Of course you do, what am I saying.....!

Strangely enough all the people I know who have taken it (without exception) are either dead or are hopeless addicts with suffering families.

Good stuff eh?

MKG · 27/05/2008 16:41

This was my anti-drug speech when I was younger, "Your father was arrested tonight for smoking pot with your uncle . . . .don't do drugs". So even a little recreational use does have consequences.

After that my mom raised me with a 0 tolerance policy for drugs, alocohol, and tobacco. After that night I never saw my dad drunk, or saw him smoke again. Dh knows its a deal breaker for me. And I think that anyone who chooses to do drugs or spend their evening drunk is

A: wasting their life
B: wasting my time.

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:45

Edinburgh - which has a relatively low drink-related crime rate, has late licences, and extended licences for 4 months of the year.

The crime rates go down during these times. Fact.

And umbrella - yes, I do. And shilst it is unfortunate that the people you know who have tried heroin became addicts or died, I think you may have to open yourself to the possibility that your experiences are not the be all and end all of a situation.

I know people who have died from heroin OD. I know junkies, and I know people who take heroin on occassion, some a few times a month, some less than a few times a year. They are not addicts.

DirtySexyMummy · 27/05/2008 16:46

MKG - what a very black and white, narrow minded opinion you have.

I feel quite sorry for you.