Thread 7: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

Fourth item in The Observer
‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

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Keep on the path as we have done together amazingly well for six threads so far. No saltiness. Thank you.

I'd go upstairs myself and hide in the loft space. They wouldn't expect that in a one storey dwelling. There are lots of true crime stories about people hiding in attics and being undetected for months

I've met a few who present as such on the SWCP.

Oooo, wonder what Sunday will bring!

Let's prepare ourselves though...it may not come as a surprise to us!!! 😂😂😂

So it's conceivable they hid under the stairs in the sitting room but it's very close to a window and I can't imagine a bailiff peering in would not see some feet. The kitchen skylight could mean the small window that's almost at ceiling height- not a skylight as such but close enough to get away with that description.

But given the neighbours allege they saw them flee at 2am and bailiffs smashed their way in the morning (so hadn't yet changed locks) I think it's fair to pin this one as another fantasy.

Or the windowless walk-in wardrobe. With their combined imaginations they could have willed themselves to Narnia.

It certainly won't if it involves Simon Armitage 😂.

Powder blue Rayburn but then a rather ugly electric hob and oven!!

I wonder if they are just good self publicists - getting their house on this program for eg

On the Cider farm & Rick Stein, it can’t have come as a shock to owner that they would pass selves off as talent/experts here? Also, didn’t Raymoth say it was in bad repair? Looked anything but with very well maintained equipment.

Given the orchard in the Grant episode is he the owner & very attractive blonde his wife? Was owner mid/late 40s at TSP publication? Did Moth come to know the 3 blondes well etc?

That has to be the worst EPC I have ever seen!!! They must have spent a fortune on energy bills or been freezing during winter

It's a shame they had a Rayburn, you could have asked Chloe H about an Aga saga. 😁

I'm looking at the last photo of the second page. Could the stairs they were crouching down under been in a bedroom with a skylight?

In the 2017 Big Issue piece Salray describes having the walk idea under the stairs and then the diagnosis 3 days later. Then says...

"We grasped the idea of physiotherapy as if it was a lifeline, and as Moth threw himself into a punishing exercise routine the idea of the walk grew."

This sounds like they were trying to justify the walk as a means to an end (ie Moth health) after they'd already thought of the idea. I'd never picked up on this before, and not sure if it says anything. Just an observation.

Also, compare with TSP to see how this narrative developed.

"Physiotherapy will help with the stiffness,’ the doctor had said. But Moth already had a physio routine that he did every day. Maybe he could do more; maybe if he did more we could stop it progressing."

Then later on....

He’d changed, there was no question, he’d changed and according to the doctors that wasn’t possible. CBD is a one-way ticket.

He knew it too.

‘I’m stronger. I feel as if I can put one foot in front of the other and trust where it’ll land. I’m not dropping things as often. But it’s my shoulder too – it’s not as painful. It was really bad when I stopped taking the Pregabalin, but somewhere before Newquay I realized I wasn’t feeling it as much. It’s been years since it felt this good, and my head’s so much clearer; I can think straight. I don’t know if it’s temporary, if it’s even possible, if it will all come back the moment I stop walking. I don’t know.’

‘Before Newquay? Probably Kurt’s herbal remedies.’

‘I think it’s extreme physio. Maybe I’ll have to keep walking all my life.’

Oops, well that just shows how memory can play tricks! I was convinced it was an actual cupboard not just the space under the stairs. I was wrong m'lud and happy (unlike some) for my wild assertions to be fact-checked and corrected.

Looking forward very much to the next installment from the Observer.

Don’t forget Simon used to be a probation officer before turning to FT poetry. Lots of experience of wrong’uns.😀

@Redheadedstepchild — the bailiffs came on a number of occasions for our rackety downstairs neighbours when we lived in London. We lived on the ground floor, they had the basement flat with a separate entrance, so people tended (annoyingly) to ring our bell. I got very tired of trying to convince pairs of shaven-headed big lads in giant leather jackets that I wasn’t in fact the downstairs neighbour feigning ignorance of some debt.

I think it's the downstairs sitting room and the ceiling light in the kitchen thats described...but it probably never happened anyway.

It would be good if something were set up where anyone who SW / TW owe money to could contact.

Then SW and TW would be forced to pay them back using the money they've made from the books and film.

Also, compensation for suffering, so not only unpaid bills or debts, but payments for what they put people through emotionally and psychologically such as Martin Hemmings' wife (and others).

What would you & others like to see CH & Observer cover in particular?

I'd like to know more about the nephew's story.

• Interviews with Polruan residents
• interviews with family members / acquaintances
• follow-up on medical letters with analysis from the neurologists in the first piece.
• a candid interview with RayMoth coming clean....one can dream.

Same, and I've seen a lot!

My guess for this Sunday's observer is an unpicking or whether they actually did the walk at all ...

@CheerybleBrothers I got very tired of trying to convince pairs of shaven-headed big lads in giant leather jackets that I wasn’t in fact the downstairs neighbour feigning ignorance of some debt.

You should have saved yourself the agro and hidden in a cupboard. A kitchen one would have sufficed as you were in a ground floor flat and presumably didn't have an under stairs one to handily dive into.

Always think WWSRD (what would SalRay do?) answer, either hide in a cupboard or go for a walk or embezzle money.

Here, impressively slightly earlier than usual - just call me The Last Minute Queen - is Thread 8. I'm hoping that the one or two pps who have found themselves on the naughty step of Thread 7 will turn over a new leaf and avoid the sin bin under the stairs in future. We've done amazingly well really and here's to an even more peaceful new thread. Please fill up this current one first though.

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Actually, we did have a ‘cupboard under the stairs’, come to think of it, but the stairs wasn’t actually in our flat…

But yes, I will approach life via WWSRD henceforth. I might concentrate on the small things, like scowling at Etonian beggars, shoplifting fudge, and pretending I make cider to Rick Stein.