Thread 7: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

Fourth item in The Observer
‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

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Keep on the path as we have done together amazingly well for six threads so far. No saltiness. Thank you.

But maybe someone will just give one away if they look hopeful enough. It worked with a house...

As well as a marathon… it was it two?

Marvellous! I was going to quote the relevant bits here but I think everyone should discover them for themselves.

Devil's advocate to a degree I think. But also, it could be a case of inadvertently, or even necessarily, still taking RayMoth at their word for things we cannot scrutinise. We have nothing else to go on from their perspective so it's either give them some benefit of the doubt or simply branding everything they've ever uttered or written a complete lie. I think people are slowing migrating towards the latter end of the spectrum.

I think that’s the risk- their statement has opened up a bigger can of worms and so now everything they’ve said is under scrutiny

they need to go against their instinct and get proper advice and be very truthful to those advisors

they come across as thinking they are cleverer than others but they’re not

Patrick Leigh Fermor, for example, wrote about completing one passage of the journey in A Time of Gifts on horseback when he was actually on foot. He told Artemis Cooper that he was worried the readers would become bored with him walking everywhere. He was thinking like an author and, ultimately, it didn't really matter too much. It would have been different if he'd pretended to walk across Europe while he'd actually been living in a bedsit in Hemel Hempstead or somewhere.

I also like that as a nice-looking, upper middle-class young man he pretty much lands on his feet everywhere he goes and leans into that. There's no smug self-flagellation about being privileged or attempt to balance it out by pretending that life is actually very cruel to him.

Don't forget

• Built woodpiles so staggeringly, incredibly and uniquely attractive to native wildlife that university professors flocked to study them

Yes, exactly. I have no idea with her of course but I wonder if for some people it’s a compulsion?

Yeah I started copying to quote then decided the same!

• Impersonated national treasure Simon Armitage and for financial gain

I didn't even know about Hampton Court. He hid that light under a bush(el).

Weren't Gillian Anderson and Jason Isaacs in the middle of promoting the film in the rest of the world when all this brouhaha started? I wonder if they have had to cancel loads of events and how they are feeling about it? I can't think of another film where the actors promoting it have been put in such an awkward position. They've both been required to identify with and gush over Raymoth so much that it just looks like they've both been very publicly scammed. They must be dreading it coming up in every interview they give for the next few years.

I thought this blog post was interesting, discussing the film from the point of view of someone who knew them from their stay in the village. I think the post's from 12 June, before the story broke.

"When they arrived, penniless, halfway through their quest to complete the 630 mile South West Coast Path, they were just another couple down on their luck.
During their sojourn, we got to know them, and I was rather surprised to hear a woman being interviewed on the BBC Radio 4 one morning, whose voice I recognised and whose story seemed familiar.
She was introduced as Raynor Wynn, but that was not the name she bore when she arrived in our village. When we met them, they were Sally And Timothy. However, later on we called her Rain and Wind."
https://tombarriesimmons.com/blog/we-see-um-come-we-see-um-go

That’s interesting - she doesn’t gush over them but seemed to like them

interesting that the film wasn’t actually filmed on the swcp

Now that's interesting, it names the Old Wesleyan Church as the place they stayed whilst they were there.

That was a puzzle from a thread or two back.

Does anyone know where the idea came from that she claimed to have sold her mother's wedding dress to repay some of the money she stole/defrauded from the Hemmings? I think her mother got married in a 'costume' i.e. a skirt suit for a woman at that time. It would have sold for very little, even as a vintage piece. I can only remember what she claimed to have sold being described as her mother's things or belongings.

It's a quote from Ros Hemmings in the original Observer articles.

And described in the 1954 newspaper item as a powder blue costume that she wore with a string of pearls.

Who wants to buy someone's mother's wedding dress anyway (unless it belonged to a film star or royalty or something)?

I think Ros Hemmings was quoted saying it in the original Observer piece and/or the accompanying filmed interview.

Blog post on Landlines

This writer clocked three years ago that something didn't quite add up and used Landlines as her example for the prompt 'Stranger than fiction'

I'm enjoying the cul de sacs of interest these threads are taking us down.

Where was it filmed, out of interest?

Thank you for all the new things I've learnt from here. I want to know more ant painting, amongst many other things 😀

However, we barely recognised any of the places they walked through, as they were shot in Monmouthshire, Gloucestershire, and West Sussex. And we were slightly miffed when the film ended before the journey was halfway through.

from the blog

Also from that blog
She was introduced as Raynor Wynn, but that was not the name she bore when she arrived in our village. When we met them, they were Sally And Timothy. However, later on we called her Rain and Wind.

why did they call her Rain and Wind? That’s weird

More interesting is that when they lived in Polruan for those years (2014-2018) they were Sally and Timothy. No interchanging of names, no knowledge of other names. No Ray or Raynor because she never liked Sally.

Yes good point!