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To think most men would cheat if they knew they’d never be caught?

328 replies

OneMauveMentor · 13/07/2025 18:26

It’s not about love - it’s about opportunity, ego, and lack of consequences. “Good men” are often just men who haven’t had the chance (yet). Loyalty when untested isn’t real loyalty.

OP posts:
2025ismybestyear · 14/07/2025 20:13

Tidekiln · 14/07/2025 20:05

Was she a good friend of yours?

Oh God no, never met her. He decided to tell her everything when they were friends and now they are dating.

MascaraGirl · 14/07/2025 20:13

I have been married a while but have never cheated, to be honest I just couldn’t be bothered to cheat.

Is this unusual?

Praying4Peace · 14/07/2025 20:15

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 13/07/2025 18:30

No. Lots of men are faithful, just as many women are. It seems sad to me that you think this.

But it's reality
Men are primarily hunters

cramptramp · 14/07/2025 20:19

Of course they would.

Didimum · 14/07/2025 20:19

Anonusername1234 · 14/07/2025 19:59

Right… tbh you’ve made a sweeping generalisation and don’t like being contradicted. But I’m not derailing this thread. You’re entrenched in some ideas which have no basis in my reality or the reality of many friends who have been cheated on. Lived experience counts but you have no desire to engage with that because it doesn’t suit your narrative. That’s fine. Let’s leave it at that huh?

No, I haven’t made up a sweeping generalisation. I’ve given my opinion about red flags detailed on posts on Mumsnet about cheating and nothing more. And I wasn’t even talking to you in the first place.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/07/2025 20:21

Crankyaboutfood · 13/07/2025 18:32

I was going to quote this. Look at any war, where men are given the opportunity to act with impunity. A lot worse than ‘cheating’ happens.

SprayWhiteDung · 14/07/2025 20:26

Sexlessandconfused · 13/07/2025 19:51

@SprayWhiteDung

Well those are very different situations. A single woman or man would go with whoever like fancy and like as a person obviously. That's nothing to do with cheating, that's just dating?

I'm saying that women can't honestly say their husbands are loyal (as this thread is about men and not women/people), if there has never been a real test.

So if you have a hunky 30 year old husband, who was hit on by a 75 year old frail women and said no, then I wouldn't say that's just because he's loyal. That's mainly because he'd never sleep with her in a million moons, no matter his personal circumstances.

Likewise if you have a 60 year old morbidly obese husband with a comb over and missing teeth, he's unlikely to ever be hit on and put in that situation. And if he were to be hit on, it realistically isn't going to be a 25 year old sexy temptress chasing him for no strings attached sex.

So realistically is it out of loyalty they haven't cheated, or just because no one very attractive has ever pursued them for secret no strings attached illicit sex?

No opportunity does not equal loyalty.

You'd only really know if you had a very attractive husband who's had plenty of options for carefree sex with very attractive women and turned them all down.

I'd argue that it very much isn't 'just dating' if a single person knowingly dates and sleeps with somebody who is married or otherwise attached.

Of course, if they have no idea that their date is not also single, they are also very much wronged by a despicable cheat and liar - and blameless.

NoDuckyDucksGiven · 14/07/2025 20:29

Many men would. But so would many women.

5128gap · 14/07/2025 20:30

NachoChip · 13/07/2025 18:40

I'm amazed that there are responses thinking it's the same for women as men. It just isn't. I don't know if it's biology, social attitudes or a combination but if you think men and women are the same on this issue, you're absolutely kidding yourselves.

You're right, it's not the same for women. Typically for us, our supply of potential sexual partners far exceeds our demand, so the offer of extra marital sex is unlikely to have any rarity or novelty value to us in the same way it does for the average man. For a woman to want to cheat there would usually need to be a stronger incentive than just an offer from a man discretion guaranteed. Because, while the average Joe would probably be facing a once in a lifetime opportunity, his female equivalent wouldn't.

Thepossibility · 14/07/2025 20:30

I think they would. Lots of women too but nearly all men.

Tidekiln · 14/07/2025 20:34

5128gap · 14/07/2025 20:30

You're right, it's not the same for women. Typically for us, our supply of potential sexual partners far exceeds our demand, so the offer of extra marital sex is unlikely to have any rarity or novelty value to us in the same way it does for the average man. For a woman to want to cheat there would usually need to be a stronger incentive than just an offer from a man discretion guaranteed. Because, while the average Joe would probably be facing a once in a lifetime opportunity, his female equivalent wouldn't.

If a woman is married to an average Joe with a low body count maybe she would be gagging for some excitement 😄

SprayWhiteDung · 14/07/2025 20:42

LondonLady1980 · 14/07/2025 11:59

I think if Christiano Ronaldo turned up on my door step for sex, with the agreement that it would never ever be spoken out and that I’d never get caught, I might struggle to say no 🤣🤣

That just reminds me of the famous quote attributed to Churchill.

The one where he offers a woman £1m to sleep with him, and she gratefully accepts; then he says "No, actually I'll just give you a tenner", and she angrily asks him just what kind of woman he thinks she is.

For me, if you would cheat - whether it be with Ronaldo or with Rab C. Nesbitt - you're just a cheat, simple as that.

Somebody who isn't a cheat would turn down both of them - because they aren't a cheat.

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/07/2025 20:46

NachoChip · 13/07/2025 18:40

I'm amazed that there are responses thinking it's the same for women as men. It just isn't. I don't know if it's biology, social attitudes or a combination but if you think men and women are the same on this issue, you're absolutely kidding yourselves.

Nope

I know more women who have cheated in real life then men. They are just better at hiding it.

In answer to the OP no, I don't think most would. At least not where I am.

Goodbyerubytuesdat · 14/07/2025 20:53

Tidekiln · 14/07/2025 20:34

If a woman is married to an average Joe with a low body count maybe she would be gagging for some excitement 😄

Who or what my husband is has honestly nothing to do with it. I can think of nothing less exciting than shagging some randomer. Or some male model or Christian Ronaldo. If I want to shag other people I have ample opportunity (and there is nothing special about me, other than the fact I have a vagina) and I am absolutely free to shag whomever I want. I just wouldn’t do it when I was married, whether I would be caught or not. Being caught, for me, isn’t the problem. Living with myself would be the problem. And, like it or not, the massive majority of men do not think like that.

Tidekiln · 14/07/2025 21:05

Goodbyerubytuesdat · 14/07/2025 20:53

Who or what my husband is has honestly nothing to do with it. I can think of nothing less exciting than shagging some randomer. Or some male model or Christian Ronaldo. If I want to shag other people I have ample opportunity (and there is nothing special about me, other than the fact I have a vagina) and I am absolutely free to shag whomever I want. I just wouldn’t do it when I was married, whether I would be caught or not. Being caught, for me, isn’t the problem. Living with myself would be the problem. And, like it or not, the massive majority of men do not think like that.

I dont think it sounds right that it would be a once in a lifetime opportunity for a man to cheat. Plenty men cheat (even if it means paying money for it) it's not hard for men to get sex either. He would have to be very average not to have opportunities. Not to mention plenty young men get plenty and then once older they settle down as the novelty can wear off for them too.

LavenderHaze19 · 14/07/2025 21:28

I find the more disturbing questions are what percentage of men would rape and what percentage would have sex with minors if there were no consequences. I think there have been surveys on both questions, one of which is posted on the thread - and the results aren’t great.

Tidekiln · 14/07/2025 21:31

LavenderHaze19 · 14/07/2025 21:28

I find the more disturbing questions are what percentage of men would rape and what percentage would have sex with minors if there were no consequences. I think there have been surveys on both questions, one of which is posted on the thread - and the results aren’t great.

Personally I wouldnt take much from a study that was based on the answers of under 100 college students. Whose to say they even took the task seriously.

OonaStubbs · 14/07/2025 21:34

I think we need to start adding bromide to mens tea again.

EggCustardTartt · 14/07/2025 21:39

3luckystars · 14/07/2025 07:32

I don’t believe women would at all, most of them have no interest in cheating and are motivated by different reasons. Men it’s just horniness and I feel sorry for them having to control that all the time 😁

Not sure about this when you have women like Bonnie Blue or whatever her name was whose sole ambition was to shag 150 men in one night!

x2boys · 14/07/2025 21:43

LavenderHaze19 · 14/07/2025 21:28

I find the more disturbing questions are what percentage of men would rape and what percentage would have sex with minors if there were no consequences. I think there have been surveys on both questions, one of which is posted on the thread - and the results aren’t great.

It was a very small.study of 86 men who were university students in one university in the US and we don't know which questions were asked or how they were interpreted it's not a representative study

EggCustardTartt · 14/07/2025 21:44

chachahide · 14/07/2025 08:35

I don’t think it’s accurate, or intellectually honest to dismiss peer-reviewed academic research just because the questions are specific. Of course they’re specific, they have to be, to ensure clarity, consent, and reliable data. That’s how rigorous research works.

There are dozens of studies in this space, all using different methodologies, populations, and definitions, and they still converge on the same uncomfortable truths. I only cited one, but it’s part of a much bigger body of evidence

Was it peer reviewed?!!

It was a very small study of men from just one college who were given course credits as an incentive for participating. And if you read the article I linked it seems the methodology was pretty dodgy - e.g. the results don't really match the conclusion. Basically clickbait.

1/3 of women would apparently commit murder if they could get away with it and 70% would cheat according to similar studies.

EggCustardTartt · 14/07/2025 21:48

And the biggest DV metastudy of all time (analysing 1700 peer reviewed studies) found that women commit more DV than men. If you believe a dodgy study of 86 college boys then surely you'll believe the biggest metastudy of peer reviewed DV studies to date.

BeEagerTurtle · 14/07/2025 21:55

NachoChip · 13/07/2025 18:39

I'm amazed that there are responses thinking it's the same for women as men. It just isn't. I don't know if it's biology, social attitudes or a combination but if you think men and women are the same on this issue, you're absolutely kidding yourselves.

You are joking?
Get yourself to a Butlins weekender or something similar and just watch

ACatNamedRobin · 14/07/2025 22:07

Agree, based on the much higher rate of open / casual / such like relationships in the male gay community.
i.e. Where there’s two men involved (at a time) and they’re more likely to think similarly to each other about sex / relationships, the above is the outcome.

40weeksmummy · 14/07/2025 22:32

OneMauveMentor · 13/07/2025 18:26

It’s not about love - it’s about opportunity, ego, and lack of consequences. “Good men” are often just men who haven’t had the chance (yet). Loyalty when untested isn’t real loyalty.

I used to work in very posh 5* hotel. And yes, 99% of "lovely and caring" husbands, fathers, partners ARE CHEATING. We had regular guests who were inviting wife with kids for their "work" stay, then flying back with family and returning after few days to spent time with other women. I used to have one guy on my section (I was a maid) who paid me £200 every time that I would check every single corner and would make sure his wife won't find his mistress underwear, lipstick,etc (he used the same room all the time).

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