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AIBU to not let DD drop out of music tour because her violin has to go under the coach?

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ToInfiniteaAndBeyond · 12/07/2025 23:07

DD is due to go on her school’s week-long music tour to Italy in two weeks’ time. This is a trip that takes place every two years - the school orchestras and chamber choir spend a week travelling around, sightseeing in the day and doing concerts in the evenings.

This year they’re going to Tuscany - about 50 girls and 8 teachers will be travelling 24 hours by coach to get there. Obviously, the coach will be pretty packed, so the girls have been told that any instruments bigger than a flute/clarinet will have to go in the luggage store under the coach. DD is a violinist so her violin falls into this category.

However, there are a few violinists at the school who have extremely valuable violins (probably worth £10,000+). These girls are all musical prodigies from extremely musical families.

They seem to have quietly been given an exemption from this rule and will be allowed to have their violins next to them on the coach (I imagine their parents wouldn’t allow them to go on the trip in any other circumstances).

DD’s violin is pretty much worthless in monetary terms, but it is of huge sentimental value to her. It belonged to her beloved grandmother, who recently died. It’s German-made from the 1850s and rather beautiful, but it’s not from a famous violin maker and only the body is original. When her grandmother gave it to her a few years ago - having not played for 20 years after developing arthritis in her hands - we found it was in very poor condition. We paid to have it restored so that DD could play it, but everything apart from the body had to be replaced.

DD feels that the sentimental value of her violin is equal to the monetary value of the other girls’ violins, and means she should also be allowed to have it with her on the coach. I’m sympathetic to this, and have asked the school, but have been told that there just isn’t room on the coach for anyone else to have their instrument with them.

DD is now saying she’d rather not go on the trip at all, as she’s so worried that harm will befall her violin. While I understand her concern, she hadn’t mentioned this once before she found out about the other girls’ being given an exemption. It only seems to have become an issue for her when she found out that it didn’t apply to absolutely everyone. She seems very offended by the suggestion that these girls’ violins are more important than hers, when they’re all ‘equally irreplaceable.’ I think she also has a bit of an inferiority complex with the super-musical girls - she’s a great violinist, and works very hard, but she doesn’t have their level of effortless talent and definitely won’t be making music her career.

I really don’t want her to drop out at this stage - we’ve already paid for the trip, and I think she’ll end up really regretting it if she misses it. Swanning around Tuscany for a week and performing music with her friends sounds utterly wonderful. Additionally, I asked the music teachers and not a single instrument has been lost or damaged in all the years they’ve been running this trip - so DD is almost certainly worrying about nothing.

She’s not a defiant child, and if I tell her she’s getting on that coach, she will. Am I being unfair to insist she goes?

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3luckystars · 12/07/2025 23:10

i would just ask the teachers if she can bring in on the bus if she is stressing over it, she is probably just anxious about the trip and is focusing in on this.

Annascaul · 12/07/2025 23:10

How old are these children? Boggling at giving a child an instrument worth ten grand, however talented they may be.

givingitupok · 12/07/2025 23:10

I'm not sure why but I'm kind of team daughter here. I think she should go, but having gone to a private school where the kids with famous parents were favoured, I really, really get it.

Littlebuzz · 12/07/2025 23:10

Hire her another instrument for the trip.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 12/07/2025 23:11

There are school children with musical instruments worth in excess of £10k?!?

school have made a rod for their own back here and they should have a blanket rule. If violins can go on the coach then your DD can take her violin on the coach.

UhhhhhhhOK · 12/07/2025 23:12

Littlebuzz · 12/07/2025 23:10

Hire her another instrument for the trip.

Yeh I was going to suggest this too. I’m surprised they would take 10k violins. How would their insurance collectively cover so many expensive instruments??
this must be a very well funded school.

MellersSmellers · 12/07/2025 23:14

I think there's more to this than the violin
Sounds like she's nervous about the trip itself. Have a chat with her and get to the bottom of her anxieties.

outerspacepotato · 12/07/2025 23:15

Money talks is quite the lesson for school to be teaching young artists.

Get her a rental to take.

opalescent · 12/07/2025 23:15

I have to agree with your daughter, that kind of preferential treatment is very frustrating, and it’s just harder to accept for some people. I think hiring a violin for the trip is a great idea

Shelby2010 · 12/07/2025 23:16

Would she not prefer sit next to a friend rather than a violin? I can’t see why the violin would be less safe in the luggage compartment anyway.

givingitupok · 12/07/2025 23:16

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 12/07/2025 23:11

There are school children with musical instruments worth in excess of £10k?!?

school have made a rod for their own back here and they should have a blanket rule. If violins can go on the coach then your DD can take her violin on the coach.

Crazy. Violins can expensive though. Handmade can be 10-100k. Antiques up to a million. Owned by a famous violinist? Can be up to 15 or more mil.

I worked in a musical instrument shop for many years at university. The amount you can spend on instruments is scary.

3luckystars · 12/07/2025 23:16

Imagine being on a bus for 24 hours in this heat. 🔆

I’d say to the teachers they the violin is a family heirloom, they are hardly going to get it valued.
Also those other people discussing the cost of their instruments is vulgar. Really wealthy people wouldn’t need to do that.

healthybychristmas · 12/07/2025 23:18

Yes but if she has a rental and it gets damaged then she's got a different problem.

healthybychristmas · 12/07/2025 23:18

Yes but if she has a rental and it gets damaged then she's got a different problem.

Jonesboot · 12/07/2025 23:19

3luckystars · 12/07/2025 23:10

i would just ask the teachers if she can bring in on the bus if she is stressing over it, she is probably just anxious about the trip and is focusing in on this.

Edited

You could read Op's post? She's already tried that.

NightPuffins · 12/07/2025 23:20

I would find her another violin to take on the trip. There’s no way I would want my antique hugely sentimental violin bashed about in the luggage storage with everyone’s big suitcases.

ToInfiniteaAndBeyond · 12/07/2025 23:20

Shelby2010 · 12/07/2025 23:16

Would she not prefer sit next to a friend rather than a violin? I can’t see why the violin would be less safe in the luggage compartment anyway.

I think she’s worried about it getting bumped around. String instruments should also ideally be kept at temps no higher than room temperature - high temperatures can be damaging. The cabin of the coach will be air conditioned, but the luggage store also won’t be.

The suggestion from several on this thread of renting a violin for the trip is an excellent idea, and I’m honestly not sure why it hadn’t occurred to me. I’ll see if we can rent, or possibly even buy, one of those cheap mass-produced Chinese ones.

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CorvusPurpureus · 12/07/2025 23:21

I would point out to her that I ran a residential to Italy many years ago, & our coach got its window smashed in, & loads of students got their stuff nicked. The things in the locked storage compartment were fine.

(The two coach drivers, who were in charge of the coach whilst the kids & teachers were off doing an activity, had allegedly simultaneously needed to nip urgently to the loo...Hmm).

It's unlikely that the students with 10k instruments will be keeping them any safer - if I were underwriting that insurance, 'safely locked in the storage compartment' would probably trump 'in the passenger area, being looked after by a schoolgirl'.

So yes, I'd tell her to get on with it & that she should feel rather sorry for her classmates & their poor risk assessment skills.

5foot5 · 12/07/2025 23:22

MellersSmellers · 12/07/2025 23:14

I think there's more to this than the violin
Sounds like she's nervous about the trip itself. Have a chat with her and get to the bottom of her anxieties.

Yes I wondered this.
Try to reassure her everything will be fine and she probably will have a wonderful time.
I have been on a few music tours with the band I play in and, indeed, only small instruments like flutes go in the coach, everything else underneath
Never known anything get damaged

aredcar · 12/07/2025 23:22

I see her point. It should be a blanket rule, not just some violins are more important than others. I would be annoyed by it. Do the school have a spare cheap violin she could use instead?

ToInfiniteaAndBeyond · 12/07/2025 23:26

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 12/07/2025 23:11

There are school children with musical instruments worth in excess of £10k?!?

school have made a rod for their own back here and they should have a blanket rule. If violins can go on the coach then your DD can take her violin on the coach.

I don’t know the exact valuations’ of these girls’ instruments, to be fair - could be a little less, could be a lot higher.

The three of them are total stars and all want to become professional violinists - and if you’re performing at that level, you really need a high quality instrument that matches your talent. Also, as these girls also have extremely musical parents (a couple play in leading symphony orchestras), it’s possible these are family violins they’ve inherited rather than ones specifically bought for them.

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SockQueen · 12/07/2025 23:26

Has she got a good quality hard case for it? There are cases designed for this sort of thing and her violin should be fine in those (as would the other girls' expensive ones).

I played the cello in school and county youth orchestra, so we never had a choice about where our instruments went! Mine survived several coach tours and a transatlantic flight.

olympicsrock · 12/07/2025 23:27

Where do you live OP? Maybe someone could lend you one ?

Mumdiva99 · 12/07/2025 23:28

Don't get her another instrument. She won't play her best on it. My son is about to do similar in France. His instrument will be under the coach. Usually the groups arranging the trip chose coach companies that known what they are doing with the instruments. Encourage her to accept it. Yes the instrument is irreplaceable.....but so will the memories be too.

5foot5 · 12/07/2025 23:29

aredcar · 12/07/2025 23:22

I see her point. It should be a blanket rule, not just some violins are more important than others. I would be annoyed by it. Do the school have a spare cheap violin she could use instead?

It sounds like, as far as the school is concerned, some violinists are more important than others. OP describes the girls with the crazy expensive violins as musical prodigies with effortless talent. They really don't want those girls dropping out of the tour.