Is Stephen Fry a repulsive, condescending misogynistic turd?

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I realised on the first thread about lovely Stephen Fry, that I should have put an AIBU. I’m interested to know the wider view, beyond us sex realists on the FWR board.

So if you’ve got time, take a flick through the last thread (link attached), and using that plus your existing knowledge of the man, what do you think?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5357749-stephen-fry-what-a-repulsive-condescending-misogynistic-turd?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

YABU - No he’s lovely.

YANBU - Yes, he is at the very least, a misogynistic wanker.

I’d not heard that rumour until today. If as Richard osman has stated, ‘everyone in the industry knows who the rapist in baby reindeer is’? Why don’t we? SF or not. Surely a person that makes his money from tv, which we all pay to watch, should be made public. It is on public interest, is it not. They make me sick these media types.

He’s a misogynist.

She recieved death threats for saying that people shouldn't be sacked for stating that sex is a reality.

I wouldn't say she is the one that is obsessed.

Yes, I think he is misogynistic and has dubious opinions on many issues, and he comes across as capable of being very unkind/spiteful, but on other topics he can be interesting, amusing and erudite. I wouldn’t trust the man as far as I could throw him, but the same applies to most people who court celebrity, to a greater or lesser extent, imho.

Anyone famous that becomes thought of as obnoxious has been enabled by us, that adoring public. I’ve never understood fan behaviour, ever.

True true. They really do laugh at us plebs as their money rolls in. Bonkers really.

SF is clearly (from information available to all), extremely problematic.

This is exactly what I would expect of him.

I used to be OK with him because he struggles with bipolar disorder (I have long term mental health issues too) and raised awareness of it. Seemed very eloquent and charming in interviews.

But I must say the pics of him next to his much, much younger husband concerned me so I am no longer a fan because of that.

@EmBear91
Are you unable to think critically for yourself or are you just happy to follow others?

Nothing misogynistic about what he's saying, he is using a personal perspective and real life examples of how he is offended by her transphohia and bullying tactics. Good on him

Such as... examples please?

His misogyny has nothing to do with his views on Rowling and has been a round a lot longer than that!

Are you an old Neighbours cast member? Australia that lovely racist, misogynistic women have penises sht hole.

I always had a knee-jerk 'ugh' reaction to Fry as an obviously fairly thick person who thinks his offputting (to me) accent makes him clever. A big age gap in a marriage isn't that unusual and is the business of no-one else.

His making money for reading the Harry Potter books and then slagging off the author is tacky.

But his life-long admiration of, and romaticisation of, men who raped poor children in North Africa and elsewhere, specifically for their rapes, is utterly vile,

WTF?

Do tell, what have you done in that area?

But that’s like Tories/ Right wingers
Send kids to private schools.
Live in leafy enclaves.
Hate and despise the poor for not making the right choices. Anyone who claims benefits is a lazy feckless scrounger.
Has erroneous opinions about the wc.
At least ‘champagne socialists’ want to improve the lives of the less fortunate. They generally don’t want to cut benefits. They tend to be working class done good.
Guess you’re implying that the good thing about Tories is that their disgust is open for all to see.

It's still the reason why many people dislike champagne socialists. Most are just virtue signallers, looking to receive praise for allegedly considering the needs of those "less well off" than them.

They're the people who sip champagne, luxuriate in the lives that a capitalist system has afforded them whilst pretending to care about the "poor people." Many have never even spoken to one of these people they claim to care so much about and wouldn't have the first clue about what they want or need or what issues matter them.

Because champagne socialists don't truly care about the little people-they care about being seen to care about the little person and how good that makes them look.

and how grateful those less fortunate should be that the champagne socialists are here to save the day.

champagne socialists

I remember chatting at a party with a wealthy young upper-middle couple who were enthusiastic supporters of Corbyn, and who'd actually joined the Labour Party to help maintain his leadership.

Full of praise about how principled and wise the old feller is, "a breath of fresh air for UK politics" etc.

Then the wife wandered off and I asked the husband, "But won't his policies disadvantage you financially...?"

He laughed and said, "Well not likely, he has next to no chance of winning the election," and then yes, he actually winked at me.

JKR cares about the safety and dignity of women and girls and works towards that which seems entirely reasonable to me. I think she's fantastic.

On the previous thread it was said that his initial gripe with JKR was nothing to do with gender; he found one of the words in the first Harry Potter book he recorded hard to read, and she declined to change the text to suit him.

A book hundreds of thousands of ten year olds have read with pleasure.

I like the Potter books, but no-one would ever claim they are great literature of which not one golden word must ever be changed. After all, Rowling managed to cope with changing "philosopher" to "sorcerer" in the interests of American sales.

Sure but not should a word be changed just because a man find it’s hard to pronounce. God forbid he look a bit foolish.

Oh, hi Stephen, I didn't know you were a Mumsnetter!