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frustrated with my dd’s immaturity

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SharpDeer · 12/07/2025 12:50

AIBU to think my 23yo DD is totally irresponsible?
Hi all, long-time reader but first time posting. I’m at my wits’ end with my DD (23, 24 in August) and honestly don’t know if I’m being unreasonable anymore.

She seems so immature for her age. From the outside, she’s intelligent, got great grades, doesn’t drink or smoke unlike pretty much all of her uni classmates, and has just started her first job. But she has no routine, no discipline, and frankly no common sense. Her eating habits are atrocious, no real meals, just croissants, cookies, bread, more bread, sometimes with hot dogs or processed cheese. I have seen her eat just a cookie for dinner, or skip eating for an entire day as well. If she goes shopping, she just buys different varieties of bread and snacks. She claims she “hates” red meat and won’t touch seafood unless it’s sushi. Due to this, she had chronically very low iron and won’t even try to fix it. We’ve always had healthy meals at home – salmon, roast chicken, veg, proper breakfasts – but she just won’t eat properly. This happened when she went abroad for her last year of uni, and I found out she’d sometimes go weekends without food (the shop was closed) or survive off a pack of croissants for a week. She’s moving back home for the job, and yet she still continues. She begs DH to buy her snacks or sneaks food deliveries to hide from me (a favorite pastime of her and DS (20)). I overhear them often having long conversations of the types of snacks they dream to eat or list of foods to eat when they can have the money to.

I’ve tried talking to her hundreds of times but she accuses me of “nagging” and runs to my DH (her stepdad), who always takes her side. She and her younger brother even seem to treat hiding snacks from me as some kind of joke. They sneak food deliveries when I’m not home to stash them for later, beg relatives for junk, I think that it’s ridiculous.

She’s also put on about 15kg in the last couple of years, and I’m genuinely concerned for her health – but of course that is apparently me being judgmental too. I worry this will impact her confidence and chances in life. She made some terrible choices at uni (chasing a guy who clearly wasn’t interested, losing sleep over him, skipping classes, cooking for him at his house when he was drunk, competing with a whole bunch of other girls, it was so much drama) and doesn’t seem to learn from her mistakes. I know that a lot of people make bad choices at uni, like her classmates partying and being found passed out in all sorts of places, which she has never done, but I still expected a lot better from her.

She has a small income now plus money from her bio dad, which he occasionally sends, so I can’t control her spending. It all seems to be used up on food or unnecessary makeup, perfume and clothes purchases (she has hundreds of each, there is pretty much no space left in her room). Worse, her new job gives her daily meal vouchers and I just know that’s all going to be going straight to pastries and sandwiches.

DH thinks I should back off since she’s moving home and we should get along, but I’m always the “bad guy” while he plays the fun parent. Even though he is her stepdad, they have a great relationship, and she obviously gets with him a lot better than me. She keeps saying her friends’ mums are more relaxed but I can’t help worrying, especially when she eats a cookie for dinner and calls it a day.

AIBU to think I should be stepping in and trying to sort her out, or is DH right and I need to let her figure it out herself (even if that means watching her completely ruin her health)? I feel like I’ve failed somewhere.

OP posts:
Yolo12345 · 13/07/2025 16:24

A studio? Um she needs to rent a room in a house share…get away from her over invested mother (sorry OP)!

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 16:52

Xyloplane · 13/07/2025 16:17

You really have his entire life planned out don’t you? Why do you “obviously” want him to find a girl? Why is that obvious? And what if he does and she’s overweight? Will you start making comments about her weight too?

And mental health is just as important as physical health by the way, and all your comments about weight, stuffing his face, being “unhealthy”, needing to be thin in order to be attractive etc etc will be affecting him.

Of course I care about DS' mental health. I always tell him to open up to us if he wants to talk about something.

I want him to meet someone so he'll be happy. I'm not forcing him into any relationship.

I want him to be at a healthy weight because I've seen what's happened in our family. Multiple people with heart stents and calcified arteries.

Whistlingformysupper · 13/07/2025 17:00

I always think threads like this are interesting because you are only aware of the bad habits because she still lives at home.

I went through a phase of eating rubbish in my early 20's, it never feels worth cooking an elaborate meal for one person. It wasn't that I didn't know how to cook I just couldn't be bothered and was enjoying the freedom to do as I pleased!

But my mum wouldn't have known because I didn't live at home, I lived with a flatmate who similarly ate crap!
If my parents visited I always made sure I got in something nicer for them, and generally I got better as I started doing more stuff like inviting friends round for food and cooking for them.

Its one of the reasons I'm not sure how healthy it is really for kids to move back home again after uni... You end up knowing too much about how they are living!

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 17:29

Whistlingformysupper · 13/07/2025 17:00

I always think threads like this are interesting because you are only aware of the bad habits because she still lives at home.

I went through a phase of eating rubbish in my early 20's, it never feels worth cooking an elaborate meal for one person. It wasn't that I didn't know how to cook I just couldn't be bothered and was enjoying the freedom to do as I pleased!

But my mum wouldn't have known because I didn't live at home, I lived with a flatmate who similarly ate crap!
If my parents visited I always made sure I got in something nicer for them, and generally I got better as I started doing more stuff like inviting friends round for food and cooking for them.

Its one of the reasons I'm not sure how healthy it is really for kids to move back home again after uni... You end up knowing too much about how they are living!

If the job they have is in the same city, makes no sense to live out. Just save the rent money and live at home.

My DC mostly lived at home during uni, expect the first year in halls.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 13/07/2025 20:44

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 15:10

He's perfectly happy at home with us. Gives me and DH a big hug everyday.

Because of my "nagging" he had a realisation that he needs to eat more healthy and be more active. I've told him that if he wants a girlfriend he'll need to lose some weight. He had a wake up call and exercises at least once a week now. I want him to do some more but I'm happy with the start he's made.

He's tracking his calories now and making sure to have healthy eating habits. He eats what I make at home. And when he dines out with his friends he's conscious about what he eats. He still enjoys food outside but makes sure he's not stuffing himself and controls his portions.

So you bullied your son and told him he was ugly and wouldn't get a shallow girlfriend?

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 13/07/2025 20:47

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 16:52

Of course I care about DS' mental health. I always tell him to open up to us if he wants to talk about something.

I want him to meet someone so he'll be happy. I'm not forcing him into any relationship.

I want him to be at a healthy weight because I've seen what's happened in our family. Multiple people with heart stents and calcified arteries.

If you cared about his mental health you wouldn't call him unattractive and tell him he won't ever find someone to love him unless he changes 🤣🤣

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 23:20

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 13/07/2025 20:47

If you cared about his mental health you wouldn't call him unattractive and tell him he won't ever find someone to love him unless he changes 🤣🤣

I didn't bully him at all. I told him he needs to eat healthier and exercise more.

If he was a slob with no job and no income would it be bad to say "no woman will want to date a man who shows no ambition"

Heyheyitsanotherday · 13/07/2025 23:23

She’s an adult. She will likely outgrow her bad habits. You will ruin your relationship if you keep nagging her. Stop.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 14/07/2025 10:35

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 23:20

I didn't bully him at all. I told him he needs to eat healthier and exercise more.

If he was a slob with no job and no income would it be bad to say "no woman will want to date a man who shows no ambition"

Telling him he's unattractive to women is bullying him

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 10:39

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 14/07/2025 10:35

Telling him he's unattractive to women is bullying him

I told him he's a very handsome boy. But he needs to watch his weight, exercise more and change his diet. Lo and behold after my pestering he's had a realisation that he needs to be more healthy.

We have family history of diabetes and heart calcification in our family. Healthy living and healthy eating is very important.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 14/07/2025 10:44

Floopafibsa · 13/07/2025 23:20

I didn't bully him at all. I told him he needs to eat healthier and exercise more.

If he was a slob with no job and no income would it be bad to say "no woman will want to date a man who shows no ambition"

Imagine if a dad was saying that to his daughter - everyone would be up in arms and calling it emotional abuse.

Caiti19 · 14/07/2025 10:44

<<DH thinks I should back off>>

I agree. If you have any hope at all of her changing her ways, it will require you ceasing your stance of being in permanent opposition to her. All you can do is model your own healthy ways and stop commenting on her choices.

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 11:13

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 14/07/2025 10:44

Imagine if a dad was saying that to his daughter - everyone would be up in arms and calling it emotional abuse.

You're all obviously fixating on this one aspect where my main concern was his health.

InSpainTheRain · 14/07/2025 11:28

You need to back off massively! I think her issues around food may stem.from you and the way you handle.it (especially if both your DC discuss snacks like that). It's up to her, you shouldn't and cant alter her weight anyway. She has good grades, a job, doesn't smoke or take drugs - honestly you have it wasy!

StrawberrySquash · 14/07/2025 11:35

I think you are getting some pretty harsh answers here and don't think it's controlling to worry about your child's diet, even at 23. But I think you've got stuck in a battle here that you won't win by continuing the way you are. So I think you have to step back a bit and let her make her own mistakes. I'd try and ensure availability of fresh food by keeping the fridge stocked and cooking family meals that she can be a part of, but take the emotion out of it. It's there if she wants it; if not then she'll go her own way.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 14/07/2025 11:46

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 11:13

You're all obviously fixating on this one aspect where my main concern was his health.

Then why mention women at all?

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 11:56

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 14/07/2025 11:46

Then why mention women at all?

It was just a small thing I mentioned to him.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 14/07/2025 12:51

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 10:39

I told him he's a very handsome boy. But he needs to watch his weight, exercise more and change his diet. Lo and behold after my pestering he's had a realisation that he needs to be more healthy.

We have family history of diabetes and heart calcification in our family. Healthy living and healthy eating is very important.

"If you don't lose weight you won't get a girl" is calling him unattractive

Boy must be so confused

Calorie counting isn't exactly healthy either

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 13:15

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 14/07/2025 12:51

"If you don't lose weight you won't get a girl" is calling him unattractive

Boy must be so confused

Calorie counting isn't exactly healthy either

You don't know the details of our conversation at all. If he was going on a date wearing trackies and unironshed shirt I'd tell him to change and go dress up nicer.

He's making an effort to lose weight and I'm happy that he's doing so. I'm not doing this to belittle him or make him feel bad. It's for his own good and for his health.

TheGoddessFrigg · 14/07/2025 14:17

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 14/07/2025 12:51

"If you don't lose weight you won't get a girl" is calling him unattractive

Boy must be so confused

Calorie counting isn't exactly healthy either

He might want a boy anyway....

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 14:22

TheGoddessFrigg · 14/07/2025 14:17

He might want a boy anyway....

I know he's straight!

TheCurious0range · 14/07/2025 14:26

I think I mainly lived on simple pasta , cigarettes and alcohol in my early twenties. I wasn't fussy but didn't have time nor inclination to be bothered about good food. Leave her be, if she wasn't living with you you wouldn't know

Floopafibsa · 14/07/2025 14:47

TheCurious0range · 14/07/2025 14:26

I think I mainly lived on simple pasta , cigarettes and alcohol in my early twenties. I wasn't fussy but didn't have time nor inclination to be bothered about good food. Leave her be, if she wasn't living with you you wouldn't know

This isn't a particularly healthy way to live life. And if continued for years on end without a transition to healthy eating will leave you with health issues. I assume you grew out of it?

I think many of the benefits of being with parents is good old fashioned home cooking.

I don't let my children smoke at all. Yes they drink a bit but no smoking whatsoever.

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 14/07/2025 14:50

Them both sneaking food tells me you obviously limited snacks and treats whent hey were kids and now they are adults they are buying it all cause they can. I say this because my mum did the same and I used to hide food and now I love shopping for the snacks I want and eating them when I want

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